Christmas Day Massacre!

[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Jeremiah Horatius Christopher!
Are you serious you actually have no clue?

shoo wrote:
Are divorces really that bad over there?

And why the hell would someone want to do that to someone they were married to?(goes for both)

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Yeah, why would someone want their kids to see their father broke and depressed. I get why they’d want to make him, revenge and getting all the money he loses. But I thought people were supposed to at least pretend to care about their children in a divorce.

Reason number 234455 not to get married.(If your a guy)

[quote]nomorewar wrote:
Reason number 234455 not to get married.(If your a guy)[/quote]

I think that goes both ways. If you subtract the other 234454 reasons not to.

[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
shoo wrote:
Thomas Gabriel wrote:
The wife was a waste of skin.

Divorce filed in March, finalize in Dec 18th.

He was laid off in Oct. He got nothing but the $500K house which only has 1/5 equity in it. After the divorce, he’s in $2600 in the hole each month while:

“Bruce Pardo complained in a court declaration that Sylvia Pardo was living with her parents, not paying rent, and had spent lavishly on a luxury car, gambling trips to Las Vegas, meals at fine restaurants, massages and golf lessons.”

Even while jobless, the feminist court system and his wife were still making him pay thousands upon thousands of dollars and putting him further into debt.

He also had medical fees to pay because his only son, from a previous marriage, had an accident and was left severely brain damaged.

Obviously, his actions were reprehensible, but you have to expect that when you destroy someones life, their psyche is going to undergo some major changes. Suicide is extremely common in cases like this. I’m not even sure you can blame the guy for this expect perhaps for not getting counselling/medication.

Once someone reaches the point he was at, the chemical makeup of their brain is so messed up, that the person they once were, has essentially no control.

First I thought bohoo, only a 500 thousand dollar house. Cry me a fucking river. But after reading all of that, it seems the guy was in some deep shit. All I ever hear of divorces ends with the guy killing himself or killing a bunch of other people and then offing himself. Are divorces really that bad over there?

And why the hell would someone want to do that to someone they were married to?(goes for both)

In the past, husbands hardly ever got the house in the divorce. With so many mortgages under water (the mortgage is bigger than the value of the house) and the unemployment rate rising, we’ll see we’ll see guys stuck with the house, the mortgage, and child support, even if they have no job.

Having said that, poverty and anger is no reason to dress in a Santa suit and waste the first kid who opens the door.

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I can understand yours and others lack of understanding of the reason(s) this man did this. But until you know what it’s like to be in this guys shoes, you can’t possibly know what it’s like. This mans wife created this, she destroyed his life to a point where he just lost it. I have read that those who knew him, were shocked because he was known as a good guy. He probably bottled everything up that was thrown at him, but you can only take so much before you break, before you snap. We are all capable of things like this, it is our unfortunate nature.

She probably laughed at him through out their divorce and after all was done. I can imagine she had planned to break him down even further if he hadn’t done what he did. Around her friends, she probably was very smug about destroying his life. She did a pretty good job, to drive a man to shoot an eight year old in the face and kill all those people. Lot of you will say that what she did to him is not an excuse to do all that, yes I agree, but we can’t say we could never do what he did, because we don’t know that. He probably never would have thought he’d be capable of what he did, then he snapped and later on probably realized what he had done.

I will state first there is NO justification for his actions. But I think it is a reason to look at our Family courts. The way I understand it is the wife got the kids and the dog and even though he was unemployed he was ordered to pay spousal support and child support. Where was the Judges compassion? The guy lost everything his Wife, Job, Kids the dog the house what did the guy get?

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
I will state first there is NO justification for his actions. But I think it is a reason to look at our Family courts. The way I understand it is the wife got the kids and the dog and even though he was unemployed he was ordered to pay spousal support and child support. Where was the Judges compassion? The guy lost everything his Wife, Job, Kids the dog the house what did the guy get? [/quote]

The gun.

And Jayski, you can explain all day how anyone can snap, but in the end he’s still the guy who killed several people and shot an 8 year old in the face.

[quote]shoo wrote:
pittbulll wrote:
I will state first there is NO justification for his actions. But I think it is a reason to look at our Family courts. The way I understand it is the wife got the kids and the dog and even though he was unemployed he was ordered to pay spousal support and child support. Where was the Judges compassion? The guy lost everything his Wife, Job, Kids the dog the house what did the guy get?

The gun.

And Jayski, you can explain all day how anyone can snap, but in the end he’s still the guy who killed several people and shot an 8 year old in the face.[/quote]

You are right; all I am saying is there is an unfair trend in the process of divorce

According to what I read, this guy:

– Watched tv when he was suppose to have been “babysitting” his own young son. The son fell into a pool and nearly drowned. The son suffered permanent brain damage. In response, this guy abandoned his son emotionally, physically and financially.
– After abandoning his son, this guy still claimed the son as a dependent on his tax returns.
– This guy/hero was so in the wrong in regard to the divorce that his own mother took the wife’s side.

And so why is everyone trying so hard to make this guy a “victim” ?

What are you playing at here? How young are you exactly?

There was never any danger of his being declared a saint anyway! IS anyone trying to downplay the horror of what occurred? None that I have seen as yet.
That he’s the psychopath that gunned down innocent people is a GIVEN! We already know that, condemned the act itself and moved on.

The role of the wife in setting the initial chain of events that snowballed out of control must not be ignored - and thats all I asked for in my first post on this thread for e.g.

Now the issue is what do we take away from this?

  1. Things are fucked up, and if you oppress someone badly enough, they/he will rebel and may lose his mind.
  2. If someone is pushed over the edge, bad things usually happen and while everyone wants to play the blame game to feel holy about their own indiscretions/infractions - the truth is that we need a solution to these problems before they spiral out of control.
  3. The system needs a makeover - marriage has become a death-trap for many (most men as well as some women) - and the law can often be no different from the 15-dollar whore outside Famous Ray’s on 21st.

[quote]shoo wrote:
And Jayski, you can explain all day how anyone can snap, but in the end he’s still the guy who killed several people and shot an 8 year old in the face.[/quote]

Don;t believe everything you read on “encyclopedia dramatica”

[quote]btbnashua wrote:
According to what I read, this guy:

– Watched tv when he was suppose to have been “babysitting” his own young son. The son fell into a pool and nearly drowned. The son suffered permanent brain damage. In response, this guy abandoned his son emotionally, physically and financially.
– After abandoning his son, this guy still claimed the son as a dependent on his tax returns.
– This guy/hero was so in the wrong in regard to the divorce that his own mother took the wife’s side.

And so why is everyone trying so hard to make this guy a “victim” ?

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[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
What are you playing at here? How young are you exactly?

There was never any danger of his being declared a saint anyway! IS anyone trying to downplay the horror of what occurred? None that I have seen as yet.
That he’s the psychopath that gunned down innocent people is a GIVEN! We already know that, condemned the act itself and moved on.

The role of the wife in setting the initial chain of events that snowballed out of control must not be ignored - and thats all I asked for in my first post on this thread for e.g.

Now the issue is what do we take away from this?

  1. Things are fucked up, and if you oppress someone badly enough, they/he will rebel and may lose his mind.
  2. If someone is pushed over the edge, bad things usually happen and while everyone wants to play the blame game to feel holy about their own indiscretions/infractions - the truth is that we need a solution to these problems before they spiral out of control.
  3. The system needs a makeover - marriage has become a death-trap for many (most men as well as some women) - and the law can often be no different from the 15-dollar whore outside Famous Ray’s on 21st.

shoo wrote:
And Jayski, you can explain all day how anyone can snap, but in the end he’s still the guy who killed several people and shot an 8 year old in the face.

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I was probably just getting the wrong impressions, what I should have said is that for someone to take his course of action in an although bad, but also common situation like that they have to be pretty messed up to begin with, seeing as a lot of people handle such situations much better. And therefore he deserves no sympathy from me whatsoever.

But seeing as that wasn’t in the discussion and I have very little knowledge of divorces I’ll just say that the wife seems to have been a bitch, and I don’t understand why someone would want to fuck their husband over in court like that or why it’s even allowed.

[quote]tribunaldude wrote:
Don;t believe anything you read on “encyclopedia dramatica”

btbnashua wrote:
According to what I read, this guy:

– Watched tv when he was suppose to have been “babysitting” his own young son. The son fell into a pool and nearly drowned. The son suffered permanent brain damage. In response, this guy abandoned his son emotionally, physically and financially.
– After abandoning his son, this guy still claimed the son as a dependent on his tax returns.
– This guy/hero was so in the wrong in regard to the divorce that his own mother took the wife’s side.

And so why is everyone trying so hard to make this guy a “victim” ?

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Fixed by the way. I’m out for now.