Chris Benoit Found Dead

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
Did you read my post? Did I do that?

If I recall correctly, I was saying that it was ignorant for Dweezil to stereotype people based soley upon their choice in television. My “ignorant statement” was a jab at the sort of logic Dweezil had been making in his posts.

You have no reading comprehension and therefore no argument.

You didni’t succeed in pulling off what you were trying to do with the “ignorant statement.”

“Therefore” (what a stupid transition to use) your post reads like a loser trying to mimic a better argument.

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I didn’t pull of sarcasm with that remark? I’m sorry, but I am pretty sure anyone with an education beyond the 10th grade could catch the contradiction between the bulk of my post and the last statement and recognize it as sarcasm. You obviously misunderstood my post.

Are you a communications or rhetoric professor? The last time I checked, this was an internet message board and not the Harvard Debate Society. Please, oh enlightened one, bestow upon me the list of sophisticated transitions so that I may go and sin no more.

C’mon. Ill trade you my copy of “Not-Being-A-Bitch for Dummies”.

[quote]kroby wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
I used to play 40k when I was 13 or so. Iv still got my army and everything. I think theyve changed the rules like 8 times since I last messed with it though.

Play? Black Library. Novels.[/quote]

The novels are based around the game. The game is possibly the easiest way to dispose of money that a 13 year old could imagine.

[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
C’mon. Ill trade you my copy of “Not-Being-A-Bitch for Dummies”.[/quote]

Did you really just resort to calling a woman a bitch? Have you never had an original thought in your head?

And now you just seem a little whiny and, well… boring.

[quote]Lonnie123 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Well said.

I can only imagine how intelligent and well written you’ll be when you’re as “evolved” as Professor X.

/sarcasm

Just so you’re clear, I dont think profx has made any statements linking peoples choice in TV with their evolutionary stage. [/quote]

Professor X wrote:
It is also a little disheartening that this discussion has been degraded to bullshit about who likes wrestling and whether they have evolved like the rest of us.

So when he says the discussion degraded to the issue of [wrestling fans] and if “they” [wrestling fans] have evolved “like the rest of us” [people who are not wrestling fans]…

he is somehow not (jokingly) “linking peoples choice in TV with their evolutionary stage.”

This was obviously a premeditated murder and not a roid rage. OJ’s killings would be more along the lines of a roid rage.

I think that he was addicted to pain meds could no longer cope with stress and checked himself out along with his family.

Either that or Ric Flair did it.

[quote]CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Lonnie123 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Well said.

I can only imagine how intelligent and well written you’ll be when you’re as “evolved” as Professor X.

/sarcasm

Just so you’re clear, I dont think profx has made any statements linking peoples choice in TV with their evolutionary stage.

Professor X wrote:
It is also a little disheartening that this discussion has been degraded to bullshit about who likes wrestling and whether they have evolved like the rest of us.

So when he says the discussion degraded to the issue of [wrestling fans] and if “they” [wrestling fans] have evolved “like the rest of us” [people who are not wrestling fans]…

he is somehow not (jokingly) “linking peoples choice in TV with their evolutionary stage.”

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I wasn’t. If you were confused about this, why didn’t you ask? Apparently, it wasn’t so unclear if others understood it…yet you didn’t. I wasn’t degrading wrestling or people who watch wrestling. I couldn’t give a shit what show someone specifically likes to watch.

[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:
I’m no doctor, but it seems to me one should worry about the combined effects of multiple concussions and years of anabolic steroid use (which could lead to low T levels and depression in someone who was not on steroids currently, right)?

In this case, perhaps there was a trigger in his son’s medical condition that finally threw a wrench into Benoit’s psyche – does anyone know much about “Fragile X Syndrome”?

Nothing excuses the action – but I don’t think there’s an easy explanation for the cause.[/quote]

Fragile X is similar to autism…thats all i know

[quote]Professor X wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:
Lonnie123 wrote:
CappedAndPlanIt wrote:

Well said.

I can only imagine how intelligent and well written you’ll be when you’re as “evolved” as Professor X.

/sarcasm

Just so you’re clear, I dont think profx has made any statements linking peoples choice in TV with their evolutionary stage.

Professor X wrote:
It is also a little disheartening that this discussion has been degraded to bullshit about who likes wrestling and whether they have evolved like the rest of us.

So when he says the discussion degraded to the issue of [wrestling fans] and if “they” [wrestling fans] have evolved “like the rest of us” [people who are not wrestling fans]…

he is somehow not (jokingly) “linking peoples choice in TV with their evolutionary stage.”

I wasn’t. If you were confused about this, why didn’t you ask? Apparently, it wasn’t so unclear if others understood it…yet you didn’t. I wasn’t degrading wrestling or people who watch wrestling. I couldn’t give a shit what show someone specifically likes to watch.

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Oh well, I misinterpreted a post. Sue me.

Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit’s Wikipedia entry to mention his wife’s death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.

Benoit’s Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife’s death.

A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/28/bc.wrestlerdead.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit’s Wikipedia entry to mention his wife’s death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.

Benoit’s Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife’s death.

A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/28/bc.wrestlerdead.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories [/quote]

Is it just me did this just send a chill down your spine? This is getting way to weird.

Yeah…and to add Martels death into the mix…and trying to show a thread of touching points between Benoit, his wife and Martel.

Shit is getting weird…

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287182,00.html

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
C’mon. Ill trade you my copy of “Not-Being-A-Bitch for Dummies”.

Did you really just resort to calling a woman a bitch? Have you never had an original thought in your head?

And now you just seem a little whiny and, well… boring.

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Resort to? No, I wasn’t “resorting” to calling you a bitch. I was calling you a bitch because you are being a bitch.

I am glad that you can deduce my entire mental construct based entirely on what…4 posts on an internet message board? You should really market that. I am sure that there are many marketing executives in corporate America that would love to have such incredible analytical powers on their side.

Please, oh might one, tell me all about myself. Tell me all of my unoriginal thoughts.

[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
Resort to? No, I wasn’t “resorting” to calling you a bitch. I was calling you a bitch because you are being a bitch.

I am glad that you can deduce my entire mental construct based entirely on what…4 posts on an internet message board? You should really market that. I am sure that there are many marketing executives in corporate America that would love to have such incredible analytical powers on their side.

Please, oh might one, tell me all about myself. Tell me all of my unoriginal thoughts.[/quote]

Well Sparky it didn’t take that much to deduce you are boring, it came across rather evidently. And you just aren’t interesting enough for me to spend any more time considering. If you don’t know who you are it doesn’t suprise me. Do you bore you too?

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Investigators are looking into who altered pro wrestler Chris Benoit’s Wikipedia entry to mention his wife’s death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.

Benoit’s Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife’s death.

A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said Thursday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/06/28/bc.wrestlerdead.ap/index.html?eref=si_topstories

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Holy shit. Maybe Vince Mcmahon is the devil.

[quote]IronRaider wrote:
Yeah…and to add Martels death into the mix…and trying to show a thread of touching points between Benoit, his wife and Martel.

Shit is getting weird…

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,287182,00.html[/quote]

Wow, who knows what to think now (especially considering the source, fox news)?

The whole wikipedia thing is really strange. Imagine if this was all a set up.

[quote]fightingtiger wrote:
Resort to? No, I wasn’t “resorting” to calling you a bitch. I was calling you a bitch because you are being a bitch.

I am glad that you can deduce my entire mental construct based entirely on what…4 posts on an internet message board? You should really market that. I am sure that there are many marketing executives in corporate America that would love to have such incredible analytical powers on their side.

Please, oh might one, tell me all about myself. Tell me all of my unoriginal thoughts.[/quote]

See, it wasn’t that you [quote]didn’t pull of sarcasm with that remark[/quote], it was that you did just a shit poor job of doing so. I mean, Dweezil was doing remarkably awesome by himself (from an entertainment standpoint, at least), whereas you tried to imitate…and instead came across as a shitty knockoff. You showed up at the Tour de France with your Big Wheels and were, for some reason well beyond me, Octobergirl, and left field, surprised when you were told you probably shouldn’t be racing.

My recommendation would be for you to first pull the training wheels off of your bike, to keep up with Dweezil, and then to pull them off of your fucking brain, to maybe make a valid argumentative point every blue moon or so (stranger things have happened). And, also, to please not go about embarrassing yourself by resorting to calling a woman a bitch within 3 posts ever again. It shows you’ve run out of creativity (and at 3 posts- oh, how pathetic), as well as a distinct lack of class.

Lack of class? Hey- just like a wrestling fan! (oh, and you can toss in the drum roll/cymbal if you know it’s gonna be a weak one). It doesn’t help too much, reaction-wise, but self-deprecation is an easy form of humor- and you are chock full of material in that regard.

Hell, I can deduce from your few posts that you’re a douche- think maybe Octobergirl and I should go into business together, or do you suppose that, based on your conduct so far, that one was kind of a ‘gimme’?

In either case, I’m sure I’ll get more than a second chance.

Ok so I just wasted about half an hour clicking around Wiki coming up with a conspiracy theory.

Kevin Sullivan, or someone working for him, was involved in the deaths of: Chris and Nancy Benoit, Eddy Guerrero, Brian Pillman, Sherri Martel, and The British Bulldog Davey Boy Smith.

  1. Nancy Benoit was formerly married to Kevin Sullivan, leaving him for Chris Benoit. (motive)

  2. Sherri Martel and Davey Boy Smith were close friends of Chris Benoit. (motive)

  3. Brian Pillman outed Sullivan as a booker in February 1996 Superbrawl. Eddy Guerrero (along with Chris Benoit, Perry Saturn, and Dean Malenko) left WCW shortly after Sullivan was promoted to head booker. Sullivan was fired before WCW was sold in 2001. (motive)

  4. Eddy Guerrero died of “heart failure caused by undiagnosed arteriosclerotic cardiovascular disease”…“Guerrero’s wife Vickie said that he had been lethargic and unwell in the week preceding his death”
    Brian Pillmans wikipedia article states "While he had a documented history of abuse of prescription drugs, an autopsy found that a previously undetected heart condition - arteriosclerotic heart disease "
    According to Sherri Martels: On June 19, 2007, police confirmed that Martel did not die of natural causes, but no foul play is suspected. A cause of death for Martel will not be determined until her autopsy and toxicology reports have been completed. Based on what is known, Martel had gone to bed at her mother’s home (where she was living recently) because she wasn’t feeling well. Her husband found her unresponsive later that afternoon.
    Davey Boy Smith: Smith died on May 18, 2002, at the age of 39, after suffering a heart attack while on vacation in Invermere, British Columbia with his girlfriend, Bruce Hart’s estranged wife Andrea Redding. An autopsy revealed that past anabolic steroid use may have played a part in his death, however no certain reason was found

Doesn’t it seem a bit strange that, with the exception of the Benoits, they all died of mysterious causes? Cant muders be made to look like heart attacks by using certain poisons? And wouldnt it be easy for people to believe that someone using steriods or painkillers had a heart attack? Keep an eye out for Dean Malenko and Perry Saturn. Just for the hell of it.

  1. Apparently I’m not the only one considering Sullivans involvement. Needs Of The Many: Did Chris Benoit Murder His Family, Or Was He Murdered? This points out that Sullivan played a Satanist and also was one in real life, and one of Nancy Benoits gimmicks was “The Fallen Angel”. Fallen Angel with a bible next to her. Creepy.

http://community.myfoxatlanta.com/blogs/sabrina754/News

The same story, longer version.

  1. None of these deaths occured before Nancy Benoit divorced Kevin Sullivan.

  2. No, you cannot have the last five minutes of your life back. I wasted them fair and square.

I agree that painkillers , stress and probaly many other factors contribute to the deaths of many of these wrestlers. However , i also fail to believe steroids did nothing at all to contribute. I’m sick of people like Bill O rielly and nancy grace stating steroids this and steroids that but i’m also sick of people on this site that refuse to say steroids aren’t taxing on a body, especially when the bodies been on gear for 20 years.

[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
Resort to? No, I wasn’t “resorting” to calling you a bitch. I was calling you a bitch because you are being a bitch.

I am glad that you can deduce my entire mental construct based entirely on what…4 posts on an internet message board? You should really market that. I am sure that there are many marketing executives in corporate America that would love to have such incredible analytical powers on their side.

Please, oh might one, tell me all about myself. Tell me all of my unoriginal thoughts.

Well Sparky it didn’t take that much to deduce you are boring, it came across rather evidently. And you just aren’t interesting enough for me to spend any more time considering. If you don’t know who you are it doesn’t suprise me. Do you bore you too?

[/quote]

Im glad you missed the sarcasm once again.

[quote]conner wrote:
See, it wasn’t that you didn’t pull of sarcasm with that remark, it was that you did just a shit poor job of doing so. I mean, Dweezil was doing remarkably awesome by himself (from an entertainment standpoint, at least), whereas you tried to imitate…and instead came across as a shitty knockoff. You showed up at the Tour de France with your Big Wheels and were, for some reason well beyond me, Octobergirl, and left field, surprised when you were told you probably shouldn’t be racing.

My recommendation would be for you to first pull the training wheels off of your bike, to keep up with Dweezil, and then to pull them off of your fucking brain, to maybe make a valid argumentative point every blue moon or so (stranger things have happened). And, also, to please not go about embarrassing yourself by resorting to calling a woman a bitch within 3 posts ever again. It shows you’ve run out of creativity (and at 3 posts- oh, how pathetic), as well as a distinct lack of class.

Lack of class? Hey- just like a wrestling fan! (oh, and you can toss in the drum roll/cymbal if you know it’s gonna be a weak one). It doesn’t help too much, reaction-wise, but self-deprecation is an easy form of humor- and you are chock full of material in that regard.

Hell, I can deduce from your few posts that you’re a douche- think maybe Octobergirl and I should go into business together, or do you suppose that, based on your conduct so far, that one was kind of a ‘gimme’?

In either case, I’m sure I’ll get more than a second chance.[/quote]

Sorry if my posts didnt come across as grade A comedy, I was at work at the time and somewhat distracted. Maybe you dont get that concept, maybe you do. Thats none of my business though. My original posts were not meant to be entertaining. I could really care less if they werent as funny as Dweezils. My point was that Dweezil was making outlandish and ignorant statements, and that was all.

And just so you know, I do not watch wrestling, however, several of the ladies who work in my office were talking about the situation and it peaked my interest.

One more thing: I dont give a fuck about the Tour de France. The last 90 guys to win that all look like theyve been lifting weights “since October 2006”. Thats nice that they can ride bikes for miles and miles, but its not my thing.

Yes, I know you were speaking figuratively.

[quote]zooropa1150 wrote:
WHAT!!! 90 F-IN PAIN KILLERS and you guys are STILL blaming steroids somehow. I don’t doubt that steroids taken in large amounts can have ill effects(as with ANY substace, water included), but to see that someone injected too much heroin, or took too many pain killers, and then make the HUGE jump to steroids is just stupid.

I agree that painkillers , stress and probaly many other factors contribute to the deaths of many of these wrestlers. However , i also fail to believe steroids did nothing at all to contribute. I’m sick of people like Bill O rielly and nancy grace stating steroids this and steroids that but i’m also sick of people on this site that refuse to say steroids aren’t taxing on a body, especially when the bodies been on gear for 20 years.[/quote]

i agree. the media is definately going overboard in their anti steroid campaign, but to deny that steroids have real side effects is ludicrous.