Choose my next program and I’ll log it..first log¡!

Maybe a month ago, I asked for peoples favorite hypertrophy routine and received many excellent responses. My problem is that shiny new object that calls my name and pulls me away from the program I’m running. I want -and need- to commit. I’m willing to run the program that garners the majority of votes by the end of Thursday. (Assuming there’s interest). It should be noted that I am 60, 5’ 9 1/2” 176 pounds. In 2008 I had spinal, shoulder and neck surgery where I had parts of ribs, spine and neck removed so certain movements – essentially anything that loads the spine – is out. Surprisingly, even heavy, flat pressing causes discomfort but I can normally work around that. For squats, I do Zercher even though they technically load the spine, it’s not as bad as when the barbell is on my traps.

I’m drawn to full body training and like a lot of stimulus. Liked everything CT wrote before Neurotyping and have been looking closely at Wendler Krypteia, Benching the Monolith, Hardhainers and Building a Bigger Yoke. I will say I’m not drawn to bro splits, PPL or Deepwater as there are too many days between bodyparts, whether directly or indirectly hit. And no tbJP as he has no issue saying he has used crazy amounts of anabolics and I believe anything works when someone is in that state.
I prefer not to live in the gym so 60 minutes from warm up to walking out the door should be sufficient.
I’m probably leaving out much information but I hope to receive several suggestions that maybe I haven’t thought of.The one most recommended is the one I’ll give a go.
I hope you’ll contribute something useful. Thank you.

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This is a shit reason to not follow a program bro.

Write off everything from Wendler, Paul Carter, Arnold, Rambod, Meadows, Scott Stevenson, Dante Trudel and probably almost every other well-renowned program out there.

Even Thibbs has admitted to heavy (relative) PED usage, so write his stuff off too.

Your problem is asking people for their opinions, validating them, then asking for their same opinions, but a second time.

I like you bro, and i mean no disrespect, but figure your shit out.

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Since you can’t seem to decide on a program, get the RP Hypertrophy APP. You can pick one of their many stock plans(or create your own) that best suits you and then modify it by switching out exercises that you can’t do because of your surgeries. The app will do all of your progressions for you based on your feedback. Just show up and train. Nothing to think about and you’ll have a new, shiny thing you can play with.

This is a ridiculous statement. You can take as much gear as you want. If you don’t have the genetics/work ethic it’s not gonna matter. The dude obviously knows what he’s doing.

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Not to pile on, just a note: from what I’ve watched, JP (and certainly Trudel, Carter, etc.) recommend a lower volume and more attention to recovery even than someone like Jeff Nippard.

Meadows was a bit higher, albeit I still think moderate, volume guy; right in the middle on frequency, too.

CT has lots of approaches that really run the gamut.

My point being, each of these dudes has a different philosophy and the spectrum spans across what the natural experts would recommend. I don’t think the use of drugs takes away from their expertise/ recommendations. That’s not the same thing as saying copy your PED-using training partner’s routine, exactly, because he’s getting jacked so you will, too. I’m just saying these guys seem to know what they’re doing and it doesn’t differ, in principle, from the advice given to/ from the natural-focused folks.

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This is some of the best advice for a trainee with program adhd I have read on this forum to date. Well done @s.gentz

OP please do this, give it 100% focus and commitment for a few months and report back.

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