[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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He didn’t spend virtual time creating those characters. That was real world time invested.
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Better for my argument yet!
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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He didn’t spend virtual time creating those characters. That was real world time invested.
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Better for my argument yet!
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OK so then let me ask you this question seriously. If you didn’t make your money on art and you did it just because you loved making art. Now your girlfriend tosses out a collection that you made and cherished because it took up your spare time. Would you be pissed?
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I can’t believe people are trying to justify what this guys gf did. ID it’s no different than if your wife tore up your art portfolio because “all he ever does is draw”. [/quote]
Are you fucking serious? No different? I MAKE A LIVING drawing - a comfortable living my wife enjoys as well, because it affords her the freedom to not have to work.
That little fuck seems like a useless spoiled brat who apparently wastes huge amounts of time playing a game which has no importance in his (or his gf’s) livelihood. His actions obviously display the degree of priority he places on that activity, and his frustrated GF obviously has had enough.
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That doesn’t make her actions right. That would be no different than some chick burning my gym membership card or throwing all of my supplements in the trash. No, I may not make my living from that directly, but you can be damned sure that what I do for a living is what allows me to be able to do other things…and if some chick did that to my shit, that would be the end of the relationship.
Go home and throw your girl’s shoes in the trash and see what happens. I am sure she spent quite a bit of time buying those as well.
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Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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ID I think what you are not understanding is that she didn’t just throw away some virtual charachters, she threw away his time. Regardless if you like gaming, or think it’s for toolbags, if someone invests 20 hours into something and then has it thrown away by someone else, most people would be like, Oh that does suck. This kid probably had Months or Years of time spent building up his characters. As an RPG fan myself, I’ll say when I used to forget to save an older RPG with no autosave and I would die or the machine would bug, it was SUPER frustrating. Here you are, grinding away for gold and experience and you just lost the last hour or two of time you spent because you didn’t save often.
Now this is a totally different thing. Some people find enjoyment in RPG, specifically MMORPG, I played a text based one for a couple years, this is actually mostly what I did before I started posting on T-Nation. I never even tried WOW because I would probably get hooked and spend WAY too much time on it. That being said, if someone enjoys it, that is thier business, if his GF can’t live with him as a person, move on. Maybe he will meet someone on the game who he eventually meets in RL and they go out and eventually move in together and all that fun stuff.
I beleieve we have our very own T-Nation couple, perhaps more than one right now. Regardless, you are entitled to your opinion, but you definatly come off a bit harsh or something. I mean sure you can bust the kids balls, but to say her actions are justified is just a little overboard, disagreeing with someones lifestyle is fine and dandy, but when people start thinking that a bad thing is a good thing just because it happened to someone who they don’t like, makes for a slippery slope. I know I constantly jest about the massholes and bostonians getting in car accidents and plane crashes and getting swallowed by large sea creatures and digested slowly over a period of days. But i’m just bustin balls, I really think it would be bad for any of that to happen.
So bottom line, whil I get that you don’t think MMORPG is cool, Maybe I don’t think being a midget with long beutiful hair, a sweet job and a Super hot wife is cool. However, I still would never wish someone shaved your head in the middle of the night, put 3" inserts on the bottom of all your shoes, broke all your drawing fingers and fed your wife twinkies for 6 months straight. It’s just bad form.
V
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Pootie Tang wrote:
Honestly she was a bitch for doing that. He was a dumbass for over reacting the way he did. Sometimes women go to far with this not getting enough attention shit. For example:
There was no justification for that shit at all. Dude is obviously a douche but she chose to stay with him. So
its her own damn fault that she is in bed all alone while he is up playing video games. The PS3 didn’t deserve that type of treatment.[/quote]
I have no sound at work, but I would smash that chick. And by that I mean hate fuck her for wasting like $600. [/quote]
Yeah. I’d smash.
Just because his characters are not tangible does not mean they hold some sort of value. In fact, they are his intellectual property because of the time and thought he put into them. Sure, it may not agree with your interests but they are still something he owns. He may not be benefitting society or his social life with the game but it made him happy so who are we to judge that?
For what it’s worth, I’ve never played WoW and believe there are better things to do but that doesn’t justify her sneaking onto his account and destroying his property. If she was mature enough, she would’ve given him an ultimatum and if he chose the game then simply let it be and leave his sorry ass. I’m willing to bet the relationship most likely ended right there anyways so in the end, no parties came out of it unharmed. I also think he’s a dumbass for reacting the way he did but it still did not justify her actions.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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He didn’t spend virtual time creating those characters. That was real world time invested.
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Better for my argument yet!
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OK so then let me ask you this question seriously. If you didn’t make your money on art and you did it just because you loved making art. Now your girlfriend tosses out a collection that you made and cherished because it took up your spare time. Would you be pissed?
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Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor. There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form, as well as the satisfaction of the creative process.
What’s the value (other than entertainment) with playing a virtual game? What does he come away with, or bring to the relationship?
Oh I forgot… bragging rights with his WoW buddies.
Hey, I’m all for unwinding while participating in entertaining activities. I’ve played some virtual games myself, but not to the point where they’ve jeopardized my relationships with loved ones, or the time I could be doing something worthwhile.
Based on the gf’s narration, she’s obviously frustrated with him, and most likely has addressed it at least once with him… for her to react so extreme as she did. And based on his immature reaction, he obviously has a problem.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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He didn’t spend virtual time creating those characters. That was real world time invested.
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Better for my argument yet!
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OK so then let me ask you this question seriously. If you didn’t make your money on art and you did it just because you loved making art. Now your girlfriend tosses out a collection that you made and cherished because it took up your spare time. Would you be pissed?
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Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor. There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form, as well as the satisfaction of the creative process.
What’s the value (other than entertainment) with playing a virtual game? What does he come away with, or bring to the relationship?
Oh I forgot… bragging rights with his WoW buddies.
Hey, I’m all for unwinding while participating in entertaining activities. I’ve played some virtual games myself, but not to the point where they’ve jeopardized my relationships with loved ones, or the time I could be doing something worthwhile.
Based on the gf’s narration, she’s obviously frustrated with him, and most likely has addressed it at least once with him… for her to react so extreme as she did. And based on his immature reaction, he obviously has a problem.[/quote]
Your making too many assumptions based on you disdain for his hobby. You don’t know how much the kid actually plays, He could do 2 hours a night, Which I would not call obsessive. And she may just be a huge bitch. There are only a few facts we can get from this, he does have some time invested in this, she is a bitch for ruining his shit and video taping it. He had an outburst and “punched” his LCD monitor. All the other assumptions you want to make are just that, you are fantasizing the situation and painting him in the worst possible light and her in a good light. It’s actually a little sad that you can let your emotions cloud your objectivism over something as trivial as what someone else does with thier life/free time.
V
that game is like crack to people.
[quote]wigsa wrote:
Bottom line is as follows:
She is a cunt.
He is a loser.[/quote]
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[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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He didn’t spend virtual time creating those characters. That was real world time invested.
[/quote]
Better for my argument yet!
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OK so then let me ask you this question seriously. If you didn’t make your money on art and you did it just because you loved making art. Now your girlfriend tosses out a collection that you made and cherished because it took up your spare time. Would you be pissed?
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Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor. There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form, as well as the satisfaction of the creative process.
What’s the value (other than entertainment) with playing a virtual game? What does he come away with, or bring to the relationship?
Oh I forgot… bragging rights with his WoW buddies.
Hey, I’m all for unwinding while participating in entertaining activities. I’ve played some virtual games myself, but not to the point where they’ve jeopardized my relationships with loved ones, or the time I could be doing something worthwhile.
Based on the gf’s narration, she’s obviously frustrated with him, and most likely has addressed it at least once with him… for her to react so extreme as she did. And based on his immature reaction, he obviously has a problem.[/quote]
Your making too many assumptions based on you disdain for his hobby. You don’t know how much the kid actually plays, He could do 2 hours a night, Which I would not call obsessive. And she may just be a huge bitch. There are only a few facts we can get from this, he does have some time invested in this, she is a bitch for ruining his shit and video taping it. He had an outburst and “punched” his LCD monitor. All the other assumptions you want to make are just that, you are fantasizing the situation and painting him in the worst possible light and her in a good light. It’s actually a little sad that you can let your emotions cloud your objectivism over something as trivial as what someone else does with thier life/free time.
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MY Emotions?? Every dude on here is practically crying about the poor boy and wishing harm on the gf. Looks to me like you all are the reactionary ones.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor. There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form
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Not everyone would agree with that either…
And yes, your arguments are based off a lot of assumptions you had no place making.
Lastly, nothing justifies her filming it and putting it up online.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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He didn’t spend virtual time creating those characters. That was real world time invested.
[/quote]
Better for my argument yet!
[/quote]
OK so then let me ask you this question seriously. If you didn’t make your money on art and you did it just because you loved making art. Now your girlfriend tosses out a collection that you made and cherished because it took up your spare time. Would you be pissed?
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Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor. There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form, as well as the satisfaction of the creative process.
What’s the value (other than entertainment) with playing a virtual game? What does he come away with, or bring to the relationship?
Oh I forgot… bragging rights with his WoW buddies.
Hey, I’m all for unwinding while participating in entertaining activities. I’ve played some virtual games myself, but not to the point where they’ve jeopardized my relationships with loved ones, or the time I could be doing something worthwhile.
Based on the gf’s narration, she’s obviously frustrated with him, and most likely has addressed it at least once with him… for her to react so extreme as she did. And based on his immature reaction, he obviously has a problem.[/quote]
Your making too many assumptions based on you disdain for his hobby. You don’t know how much the kid actually plays, He could do 2 hours a night, Which I would not call obsessive. And she may just be a huge bitch. There are only a few facts we can get from this, he does have some time invested in this, she is a bitch for ruining his shit and video taping it. He had an outburst and “punched” his LCD monitor. All the other assumptions you want to make are just that, you are fantasizing the situation and painting him in the worst possible light and her in a good light. It’s actually a little sad that you can let your emotions cloud your objectivism over something as trivial as what someone else does with thier life/free time.
V[/quote]
MY Emotions?? Every dude on here is practically crying about the poor boy and wishing harm on the gf. Looks to me like you all are the reactionary ones.
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Dude, imagine if your gf deleted your T-Nation account and all your sweet avs when they could be restored. Wouldn’t you destroy hundreds of dollars worth of electronics and then place your hands on her?!
[quote]Every dude on here is practically crying about the poor boy and wishing harm on the gf.
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Where did I post that? I didn’t even write anything at all, so I don’t know where anyone can draw that conclusion, unless you are seeing things.
I merely put the video on here because it was silly, like that other Warcraft freakout.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor. There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form, as well as the satisfaction of the creative process.
What’s the value (other than entertainment) with playing a virtual game? What does he come away with, or bring to the relationship?
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Well then this is just a matter of opinion I think. I see art as a hobby if you’re not getting paid for it. I can look at a persons drawings and see no value if I don’t like the artwork. That doesn’t mean that they didn’t put time and effort into or get any enjoyment in the process of creating it. I feel exactly the same way about this WoW stuff. I could care less about what characters he created. But I will recognize that he put time and effort into creating them and they have value for him. She knew it was important to him and she went and destroyed it.
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Based on the gf’s narration, she’s obviously frustrated with him, and most likely has addressed it at least once with him… for her to react so extreme as she did. And based on his immature reaction, he obviously has a problem.[/quote]
She obviously has problems that are on par with his. It takes a real wackjob to tape yourself purposely upsetting your significant other. If I taped myself breaking up with my ex and put it on youtube I’m sure everyone would agree it’s a dick move. She could’ve broken up with him and maybe then he’d come to his senses. Instead she chose to destroy something that had alot of value to him and tape it on top of all that.
The girl is clearly a bitch just for the fact that she filmed it.
I see both points (this is the situation had it not been flimed to humiliate) on one hand it’s something he cares about girls do dumb trivial crap too but I’m not gonna destroy it.
But irondwarf does have a point, on the ps3 one that is a total bitch, but wow is the lamest crap ever and I know people like that they literally do ABSOLUTELY nothing other then sit on that gay stupid game wasting his life, if he doesn’t try to start over and actually goes out and shoots some hoops or something she did do him a favor.
I am totally not of the mindset of that hobbies men (or women) do should be taken away from them shooting hoops, watching fights, football,pool,darts,computer programming. But this one perticular thing is the only thing that you can truly say is life/soul sucking AND useless you dedicate as much as they do to that game to a real life activity to the point you have no life outside it you’ll be a pro athlete or a millionaire.
Honestly maybe me and irondwarf are just super biased. I’ve just always had the mindset video games= lifeless lame loser nerd, computer video games=super lifeless lame loser nerd.
[quote]Vegita wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I can’t believe people are trying to justify what this guys gf did. ID it’s no different than if your wife tore up your art portfolio because “all he ever does is draw”. [/quote]
Are you fucking serious? No different? I MAKE A LIVING drawing - a comfortable living my wife enjoys as well, because it affords her the freedom to not have to work.
That little fuck seems like a useless spoiled brat who apparently wastes huge amounts of time playing a game which has no importance in his (or his gf’s) livelihood. His actions obviously display the degree of priority he places on that activity, and his frustrated GF obviously has had enough.
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That doesn’t make her actions right. That would be no different than some chick burning my gym membership card or throwing all of my supplements in the trash. No, I may not make my living from that directly, but you can be damned sure that what I do for a living is what allows me to be able to do other things…and if some chick did that to my shit, that would be the end of the relationship.
Go home and throw your girl’s shoes in the trash and see what happens. I am sure she spent quite a bit of time buying those as well.
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Wow. She tossed his virtual characters. Real world!
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ID I think what you are not understanding is that she didn’t just throw away some virtual charachters, she threw away his time. Regardless if you like gaming, or think it’s for toolbags, if someone invests 20 hours into something and then has it thrown away by someone else, most people would be like, Oh that does suck. This kid probably had Months or Years of time spent building up his characters. As an RPG fan myself, I’ll say when I used to forget to save an older RPG with no autosave and I would die or the machine would bug, it was SUPER frustrating. Here you are, grinding away for gold and experience and you just lost the last hour or two of time you spent because you didn’t save often.
Now this is a totally different thing. Some people find enjoyment in RPG, specifically MMORPG, I played a text based one for a couple years, this is actually mostly what I did before I started posting on T-Nation. I never even tried WOW because I would probably get hooked and spend WAY too much time on it. That being said, if someone enjoys it, that is thier business, if his GF can’t live with him as a person, move on. Maybe he will meet someone on the game who he eventually meets in RL and they go out and eventually move in together and all that fun stuff.
I beleieve we have our very own T-Nation couple, perhaps more than one right now. Regardless, you are entitled to your opinion, but you definatly come off a bit harsh or something. I mean sure you can bust the kids balls, but to say her actions are justified is just a little overboard, disagreeing with someones lifestyle is fine and dandy, but when people start thinking that a bad thing is a good thing just because it happened to someone who they don’t like, makes for a slippery slope. I know I constantly jest about the massholes and bostonians getting in car accidents and plane crashes and getting swallowed by large sea creatures and digested slowly over a period of days. But i’m just bustin balls, I really think it would be bad for any of that to happen.
So bottom line, whil I get that you don’t think MMORPG is cool, Maybe I don’t think being a midget with long beutiful hair, a sweet job and a Super hot wife is cool. However, I still would never wish someone shaved your head in the middle of the night, put 3" inserts on the bottom of all your shoes, broke all your drawing fingers and fed your wife twinkies for 6 months straight. It’s just bad form.
V[/quote]
Surely this?! She has robbed him of hours of his life! You may argue that the game is robbing him of hours of his life, but that is his choice. MMORPGs don’t appeal to me in the slightest, but its the same as any endeavour into which you have lovingly put in hard work, or in this case, the guy’s valuable free time.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Still no comparison. Making art is a worthwhile endeavor [/quote]
opinion. No offense, But I definitely think art is many times not a worthwhile endeavor. Us engineers normally make fun of artists for that exact reason.[quote] There’s an intrinsic value to art in its final form[/quote] most of the time? no. unless an artist painted with gold, art almost by definition has no intrinsic value. additionally, People will (at least used to) sell accounts with high level characters for a good bit of money[quote], as well as the satisfaction of the creative process.
What’s the value (other than entertainment) with playing a virtual game? What does he come away with, or bring to the relationship?
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You can say the same thing about most things people do. Why exactly do you post here?
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Oh I forgot… bragging rights with his WoW buddies.
Hey, I’m all for unwinding while participating in entertaining activities. I’ve played some virtual games myself, but not to the point where they’ve jeopardized my relationships with loved ones, or the time I could be doing something worthwhile.
Based on the gf’s narration, she’s obviously frustrated with him, and most likely has addressed it at least once with him… for her to react so extreme as she did. And based on his immature reaction, he obviously has a problem.[/quote]
Whoever is defending the girl… fuck you.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
While I don’t understand the allure of WoW, what it comes down to is that you respect my stuff and leave it alone.
I’m sure they would want to be treated the same.[/quote]
Exactly. I’m not into computer games. They require way more thought than I’m willing to expend but you don’t just arbitrarily take someones stuff because you decide it has no value. Clearly it does for him.[/quote]
This.
[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
[quote]JLu wrote:
I can’t believe people are trying to justify what this guys gf did. ID it’s no different than if your wife tore up your art portfolio because “all he ever does is draw”. [/quote]
Are you fucking serious? No different? I MAKE A LIVING drawing - a comfortable living my wife enjoys as well, because it affords her the freedom to not have to work.
That little fuck seems like a useless spoiled brat who apparently wastes huge amounts of time playing a game which has no importance in his (or his gf’s) livelihood. His actions obviously display the degree of priority he places on that activity, and his frustrated GF obviously has had enough.
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So if she were to rip up every drawing you’ve done for personal reasons, you know, not for work, that’s cool?
She was a bitch who should have talked to him. If he wasn’t ready to listen, she should have left him. It’s not a hard concept to grasp here.