[quote]knewsom wrote:
…but to state that any major US Democratic leader would’ve said exactly the same things in a speech is just as ludicrous as Chavez saing that Bush is “the devil”. Grow the fuck up, dude.[/quote]
no, I think you need to wake the fuck up, dude, and start paying attention to what the majority of the democratic party is saying, dude.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
100meters wrote:
…
What drives you to make this s–t up?
The DNC’s agenda is the same as the vast majority of this country—or hadn’t ya noticed?
Dealing with the Iraq fiasco
stem cells
health care
energy independence
security
environment
minimum wage
retirement
etc.
…
These are talking points and not an agenda.
How exactly is the DNC going to fix health care?
How exactly will we achieve energy independence?
It just goes on and on.
You need to wake up and see that they are as phony as the Republicans.
[/quote]
On a forum where it’s popular to label Bush supporters as “chearleaders”, our friend 100m has consistantly marched in lockstep unison with the DNC and their talking points.
I challenge you to find one of your posts where you’ve broken with your party’s lines
But
You
just
can’t
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Well, I can’t speak for all conservatives, but I never said that Pelosi and Dean were dumb. It’s probably more accurate to say that they’re quite smart. It’s their political ideoligy that I mainly have a problem with.
I’m sure Hitler would have loved Ann Coulter and Michael Savage.
I have a problem with the neocon ideology, so I’m glad the Democrats are splitting so heavily from them.
I actually tried to listen to Savage a few times. But he reminds me of an angry old man always yelling at the kids to stay off his lawn. I really don’t think that he represents conservatism well at all. At least not my particular flavor of conservatism.
As far as Ann Coulter, I think that aside from her occasional crazy comments, she usually has great points and delivers them very well. I think that her ability to cut past the shit and hit the heart of the matter is what makes her so effective.
If she was simply a right wing kook, the left would ignore her much like they do Savage.
Plus, she makes me swoon just a little bit ;->
[/quote]
I know you love flat assed Ann, and I still don’t get it.
She is a sensationalist, making money off what outrages people (and not in a good way).
There has to at least be more meat on that ass before I’d hit it…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
I know you love flat assed Ann, and I still don’t get it.
She is a sensationalist, making money off what outrages people (and not in a good way).
There has to at least be more meat on that ass before I’d hit it…[/quote]
Let’s see…wealthy, highly intelligient, not bad to look at but pretty skinny…and you’d pass her up? Compared to the women who come into the Feed-and-Seed where you work, she’s…?
Now, back to Chavez, the walking abortion: I’m glad he came and spoke here. The Republicans can play that over and over, along with the VERY similar rantings of the Democrats, and win in November! The Dems just got fucked by Bush’s mortal enemy! How hilarious that is!
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
100meters, if you haven’t figured out to just ignore EffR’s babblings, than it’s your own fault.
Let him yap. No one’s listening.[/quote]
And yet, I’m addicted to his stupidity. It’s to funny to ignore.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
These are talking points and not an agenda.
How exactly is the DNC going to fix health care?
How exactly will we achieve energy independence?
It just goes on and on.
You need to wake up and see that they are as phony as the Republicans.
[/quote]
Hmmm… wouldn’t this be contradicted by actual efforts vs. your party’s zero efforts
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
100meters wrote:
…
What drives you to make this s–t up?
The DNC’s agenda is the same as the vast majority of this country—or hadn’t ya noticed?
Dealing with the Iraq fiasco
stem cells
health care
energy independence
security
environment
minimum wage
retirement
etc.
…
These are talking points and not an agenda.
How exactly is the DNC going to fix health care?
How exactly will we achieve energy independence?
It just goes on and on.
You need to wake up and see that they are as phony as the Republicans.
On a forum where it’s popular to label Bush supporters as “chearleaders”, our friend 100m has consistantly marched in lockstep unison with the DNC and their talking points.
I challenge you to find one of your posts where you’ve broken with your party’s lines
But
You
just
can’t
[/quote]
Funny.
No, I can’t think of one.
(I’m a Liberal—busted!)
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
100meters wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
rainjack wrote:
I find it entertaining as well to see how - indistinguishable Chavez’s words are from the talking points of the DNC.
Who’s coaching who?
My point exactly.
From the nutjob in Iran, to the crazy asshole in Argentina, the DNC’s talking points are literally interchangable at times with these crazy fuckers.
I think they actually feed off each other.
What drives you to make this s–t up?
The DNC’s agenda is the same as the vast majority of this country—or hadn’t ya noticed?
Dealing with the Iraq fiasco
stem cells
health care
energy independence
security
environment
minimum wage
retirement
etc.
What aspect is “crazy”? Oh, none?
Then can you please stop with the nonsense.
100m, I have some questions for you. Now, I want you to be honest you crazy leftist rascal you.
Did Pelosi accuse Bush of being mentally unstable?
[/quote]
I don’t know, I don’t see that quote via google. I do know that Bush Co. called McCain mentally unstable in his 2000 campaign, as well insinuating he had a black baby out of wedlock via push polling.
Yes. But, he did betray us—this has been proven about a million times, so I can’t hold that against him.
Yes. That was true, remember?
No. (At least I can’t find a quote of said comparison)
Uhh…no he said
“You think the RNC could get this many people of color into a single room?” he marvels. “Maybe if they got the hotel staff in there.”
And of course not only was that hilarious, but true too. (Maybe funny cuz it’s true?)
Did Dean say Bush is evil? No. and what democrat said “Bush is evil.”?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Let’s see…wealthy, highly intelligient, not bad to look at but pretty skinny…and you’d pass her up? Compared to the women who come into the Feed-and-Seed where you work, she’s…?
[/quote]
What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck is a “feed and seed”?
Man, I’m 22 and in North Jersey. I see better looking women than her every day I’m alive. This shit it ain’t Ohio bud.
Not too mention that they aren’t heartless c*nts like her. And her intelligence is up for debate.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Man, I’m 22 and in North Jersey. I see better looking women than her every day I’m alive. This shit it ain’t Ohio bud.[/quote]
I can vouch for that. Although it’s not OC-grade, North Jersey is a good place to be a single straight man.
[quote]bigflamer wrote:
As far as inconsistencies go, I think it’s funny how leftists and Bush haters will call him the dumbest person in the history of the presidency, then claim that he is the orchestrator of 9/11 and some new world order conspiracy. I doesn’t really add up IMHO.
[…]
While these individuals are not openly supported by the Democratic Party, they enjoy the indirect support they provide. The DNC isn’t dumb enough to actually support these individuals and groups officially and publicly. Although, as I said, they did have a good time parading around Sheehan and Moore.[/quote]
The lengths you went to avoid your statement are quite amazing… I see a bright future for you in the GOP!
Read again what you wrote: you are saying that there are people who, AT THE SAME TIME, say he’s dumb AND he is the orchestrator of 9/11.
I’ll repeat my challenge again, in a simpler and broader way: give me an example of a person with any clout – left, right, center, whatever – who believes both statements. Seriously.
Personally, I have no doubt in my mind he is completely incapable of being behind 9/11. He has the subtlety of an elephant with a toothache in a porcelain shop. He is not an able conspirator, or an orchestrator.
He is, however, completely irresponsible and generally behaves like a spoiled brat who likes to play the “meanest sumabitch on the block” character, without ever realizing the value or consequences of his actions, or how foolish he looks. He is the worst human being to ever grace the position of POTUS – not the worst president, mind you, but definitely the worst person.
And, by the way, I don’t hate him – I despise him. I have nothing but contempt for him. Very different. Hating him would require attaching any value to him – something, that, honestly, he does not have.
hspder, tell us how you REALLY feel about the guy.
Let me ask you something relevant to the thread here. We have some tiny idea of how well you relate to the president, but is he worse than Chavez?
BTW I am boycotting all Citgos, and will proudly go out of my way to get gas somewhere else.
[quote]hspder wrote:
Read again what you wrote: you are saying that there are people who, AT THE SAME TIME, say he’s dumb AND he is the orchestrator of 9/11.
I’ll repeat my challenge again, in a simpler and broader way: give me an example of a person with any clout – left, right, center, whatever – who believes both statements. Seriously.
Personally, I have no doubt in my mind he is completely incapable of being behind 9/11. He has the subtlety of an elephant with a toothache in a porcelain shop. He is not an able conspirator, or an orchestrator.
He is, however, completely irresponsible and generally behaves like a spoiled brat who likes to play the “meanest sumabitch on the block” character, without ever realizing the value or consequences of his actions, or how foolish he looks. He is the worst human being to ever grace the position of POTUS – not the worst president, mind you, but definitely the worst person.
And, by the way, I don’t hate him – I despise him. I have nothing but contempt for him. Very different. Hating him would require attaching any value to him – something, that, honestly, he does not have.[/quote]
Nice post, and I agree.
Pretty much sums up my feelings towards our glorious leader.
[quote]hspder wrote:
He is, however, completely irresponsible and generally behaves like a spoiled brat who likes to play the “meanest sumabitch on the block” character, without ever realizing the value or consequences of his actions, or how foolish he looks. He is the worst human being to ever grace the position of POTUS – not the worst president, mind you, but definitely the worst person.
And, by the way, I don’t hate him – I despise him. I have nothing but contempt for him. Very different. Hating him would require attaching any value to him – something, that, honestly, he does not have.[/quote]
naaah, there have been worse people who have been president. Andrew Jackson, for example.
[quote]knewsom wrote:
naaah, there have been worse people who have been president. Andrew Jackson, for example.[/quote]
Nonsense. Dumbest statement I have read in weeks.
[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
knewsom wrote:
naaah, there have been worse people who have been president. Andrew Jackson, for example.
Nonsense. Dumbest statement I have read in weeks.
[/quote]
heh, ok, maybe you’re right. 
[quote]hspder wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
As far as inconsistencies go, I think it’s funny how leftists and Bush haters will call him the dumbest person in the history of the presidency, then claim that he is the orchestrator of 9/11 and some new world order conspiracy. I doesn’t really add up IMHO.
[…]
While these individuals are not openly supported by the Democratic Party, they enjoy the indirect support they provide. The DNC isn’t dumb enough to actually support these individuals and groups officially and publicly. Although, as I said, they did have a good time parading around Sheehan and Moore.
The lengths you went to avoid your statement are quite amazing… I see a bright future for you in the GOP!
Read again what you wrote: you are saying that there are people who, AT THE SAME TIME, say he’s dumb AND he is the orchestrator of 9/11.
I’ll repeat my challenge again, in a simpler and broader way: give me an example of a person with any clout – left, right, center, whatever – who believes both statements. Seriously.[/quote]
I still think it’s funny how you equate the terms leftists and Bush haters with democratic party leadership.
Read again what I wrote please. I clearly stated my opinion that the DNC provides indirect support to alot of the left wing kook fringe. I then laughed at how the Dems did have a good time parading around Sheehan and Moore, two individuals who, IMHO, truly embody the kook fringe of the Democratic party. You then stated that you want to broaden your “challenge” to me, while simultaneously narrowing your requirements to individuals of “clout”.
Interesting.
hspder, we both know that Bush has been ridiculed by the left for his supposed lack of intelect, while also being accused of involvement, at some level, with 9/11. I personally think that they lose track of their accusations.
The larger point that I’m trying to make is that the lefts kook fringe seems to have a firmer grasp on the Dems than the the rights kook fringe have on the Republicans. They are driven by hate for the Bush administration instead of policy alternatives. Once again, cruise through dailykos, moveon.org, etc., and you get the picture. Hell, reread the comments by Algore, Kerry, and Dean and you get the picture of a political party lost.
BTW, did any member of the Democratic leadership denounce the film where Bush’s assasination gets played out? It’s currently winning awards.
[quote]
Personally, I have no doubt in my mind he is completely incapable of being behind 9/11. He has the subtlety of an elephant with a toothache in a porcelain shop. He is not an able conspirator, or an orchestrator.
He is, however, completely irresponsible and generally behaves like a spoiled brat who likes to play the “meanest sumabitch on the block” character, without ever realizing the value or consequences of his actions, or how foolish he looks. He is the worst human being to ever grace the position of POTUS – not the worst president, mind you, but definitely the worst person.
And, by the way, I don’t hate him – I despise him. I have nothing but contempt for him. Very different. Hating him would require attaching any value to him – something, that, honestly, he does not have.[/quote]
Wow, I think you have an equally bright future in the Democratic party :-}
[quote]100meters wrote:
bigflamer wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
100meters wrote:
…
What drives you to make this s–t up?
The DNC’s agenda is the same as the vast majority of this country—or hadn’t ya noticed?
Dealing with the Iraq fiasco
stem cells
health care
energy independence
security
environment
minimum wage
retirement
etc.
…
These are talking points and not an agenda.
How exactly is the DNC going to fix health care?
How exactly will we achieve energy independence?
It just goes on and on.
You need to wake up and see that they are as phony as the Republicans.
On a forum where it’s popular to label Bush supporters as “chearleaders”, our friend 100m has consistantly marched in lockstep unison with the DNC and their talking points.
I challenge you to find one of your posts where you’ve broken with your party’s lines
But
You
just
can’t
Funny.
No, I can’t think of one.
(I’m a Liberal—busted!)[/quote]
100m,
If the Dems actually embraced and positively supported these talking points as policy, then you would be a member of a formidable political party instead of the trainwreck that it is now.
Instead, unfortunately, the majority of the left has embraced a “blame America first”/“Republicans are evil” policy.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Let’s see…wealthy, highly intelligient, not bad to look at but pretty skinny…and you’d pass her up? Compared to the women who come into the Feed-and-Seed where you work, she’s…?
What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck is a “feed and seed”?
Man, I’m 22 and in North Jersey. I see better looking women than her every day I’m alive. This shit it ain’t Ohio bud.
Not too mention that they aren’t heartless c*nts like her. And her intelligence is up for debate.[/quote]
LOL! A Feed and seed is the name for a garden center before it became fashionable for soccer mom to shop there. Hence the name change. Man, I AM old! I’m just fucking with you, Irish, you’re a good guy! 
[quote]hspder wrote:
He is, however, completely irresponsible and generally behaves like a spoiled brat who likes to play the “meanest sumabitch on the block” character, without ever realizing the value or consequences of his actions, or how foolish he looks. He is the worst human being to ever grace the position of POTUS – not the worst president, mind you, but definitely the worst person.
And, by the way, I don’t hate him – I despise him. I have nothing but contempt for him. Very different. Hating him would require attaching any value to him – something, that, honestly, he does not have.[/quote]
This from a guy who believes that who ever has the biggest gang must be in the right, that right and wrong are a matter of crowd-opinion. LMAO!!
You, sir, are not fit to shine President Bush’s shoes, let alone pronounce moral judgments on this fine man. Move to the fucking Netherlands or Portugal or some other shit hole. Tell 'em all about it there, and tell 'em how superior you are to all the fucking mere mortals. Tell them they’re stupid if they don’t agree with Hspder the Magnificent.
ROFLMAO!!