Changing of the Guard

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Solidkhalid, how do you feel at the lighter body weight?
How long did it take you to drop that 30lbs?
Is your current avatar when you were 215,180ish or now at 190-195?[/quote]

I feel smaller and I’m used to taking up more space, mentally.
Physically I feel more “athletic” and pull ups are much easier. Dips have gotten harder though, as well as squats, military pressing, benching, curls…

30 lbs I dropped in 7 months

My gray shorts avatar was from 215. The one I just put up is now (190-195)

Heres the old pix

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Solidkhalid, how do you feel at the lighter body weight?
How long did it take you to drop that 30lbs?
Is your current avatar when you were 215,180ish or now at 190-195?[/quote]

I feel smaller and I’m used to taking up more space, mentally.
Physically I feel more “athletic” and pull ups are much easier. Dips have gotten harder though, as well as squats, military pressing, benching, curls…

30 lbs I dropped in 7 months

My gray shorts avatar was from 215. The one I just put up is now (190-195)

[/quote]
Ya I feel ya on the feeling smaller part and being used o taking up more space.
Just think f it this way: quality not quantity.
Take up quality space with more LBM than just taking up space with body weight :slight_smile:
I think you look better in your current avi FWIW.
Clothes are fitting loser?
Everyone goes through that.
You/we were fatter before so of course they fit loser, time for some new shirts! :slight_smile:
You don’t want to be that fat/full house cop that couldn’t take down a perp in a foot chase do you? lol
IMO, keep the conditioning, adjust calories accordingly with small increments and work on building up that LBM.
Look at Alpha’s old logs.
Size, strength and crazy conditioning.
Ya it will take a while but Rome wasn’t built in a day right?
You got this.

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
Heres the old pix[/quote]
Try not to think of it in a negative light like “smaller”
Think of it in a positive light like “leaner”
Smaller=Bad
Leaner=Good

Thanks man.
Size is what it is, I just want to press 225 over my damn head!

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
Thanks man.
Size is what it is, I just want to press 225 over my damn head![/quote]
Ha ha ha so you can lift unruly suspects over your head and throw them? :wink:
You’ll get there.
Strength will inevitably take a hit when calories are decreased for an extended period of time and conditioning is increased.
It happens.
Lifts also drop as you lose fat and your leverages change.
I do not know how meticulously you tracked your nutrition during your diet but I would suggest you treat your gaining phase the same way.
Think of it as a “reverse diet”
Don’t jump into a See Food diet because you feel small.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

Making some progress there

Post full body pics. Lets see where you are at
[/quote]

I am sure I will eventually, but I am also sure I have posted enough pictures up to now for what I have written in this thread to be supported.[/quote]

You have posted CURRENT pics that are full body not your MM pose in a shirt ?[/quote]

Nope. I didn’t say I had. I said I will eventually.

No offense, but is English your first language?[/quote]

Lol I could ask you the same. Re read this exchange. I said post current full body pics. You said you have posted plenty of pics in here implying they are current full body shots. I ask for clairification. You insult me. Weird how that happens

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
Thanks man.
Size is what it is, I just want to press 225 over my damn head![/quote]
Ha ha ha so you can lift unruly suspects over your head and throw them? :wink:
You’ll get there.
Strength will inevitably take a hit when calories are decreased for an extended period of time and conditioning is increased.
It happens.
Lifts also drop as you lose fat and your leverages change.
I do not know how meticulously you tracked your nutrition during your diet but I would suggest you treat your gaining phase the same way.
Think of it as a “reverse diet”
Don’t jump into a See Food diet because you feel small.[/quote]

Sounds good
I can’t get on a see food diet because I barely have an appetite anymore! I’m back on the force-feeding phase lol

[quote]Professor X wrote:
No. Lean body mass is determined from a body fat test. Brick was claiming some “40-50lbs” number that can not be calculated in any way at all without someone dying first…which means his number range is arbitrary and unsupported.
[/quote]
Brick was always talking about LBM he just thinks you’re 20+% bodyfat with the end point for that 40-50lb benchmark being determined by what the best natural bodybuilders(of all races) have done. The beginning point for that is a bit more ambiguous and what counts as training induced LBM is as well and I’m sure he be willing to discuss it.

It seems when you talk about 80 LBM gains he takes it to mean that you have surpassed even what the top outliers in natural bodybuilding have done by twice as much and are moving in on IFBB pro territory.

If you don’t think your LBM gains far surpass what the top naturals have done then you disagree with Bricks starting point. If you do than you disagree with his end point.

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Wah wah waaaaaahhh.
Same predictable crap.
You are boring with this.
Keep trolling and driving up the click counts.
Keep this forum popping up on the first page of google searches because of all these key words and phrases
I’m sure that’s the reason you are still allowed to post here, unless you have part ownership of the company is something.
[/quote]

One has to believe there is a good amount of truth to this.

Really, it explains everything.

Strange times these.

[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
No. Lean body mass is determined from a body fat test. Brick was claiming some “40-50lbs” number that can not be calculated in any way at all without someone dying first…which means his number range is arbitrary and unsupported.
[/quote]
Brick was always talking about LBM he just thinks you’re 20+% bodyfat with the end point for that 40-50lb benchmark being determined by what the best natural bodybuilders(of all races) have done. The beginning point for that is a bit more ambiguous and what counts as training induced LBM is as well and I’m sure he be willing to discuss it.

It seems when you talk about 80 LBM gains he takes it to mean that you have surpassed even what the top outliers in natural bodybuilding have done by twice as much and are moving in on IFBB pro territory.

If you don’t think your LBM gains far surpass what the top naturals have done then you disagree with Bricks starting point. If you do than you disagree with his end point.[/quote]

Yup! Apparently you have explained my points better than I have. :slight_smile:

I believe his main gripe is that some of my statements limit people. How, I have no clue. As I’ve said, the only way I can limit someone is to use privation. That is, sabotaging one’s entry or effort in a gym or food shopping and eating. I don’t know how to do that, nor would I. It would also be rude if I went up to hard working people in a gym and during a set, stopped them from lifting a weight or told them to stop. Like imagine some big guy one arm rowing and I come over and grab the dumbbell or shout at him, “stop”. What if I yanked at some guy’s legs during chins or dips? Or slapped the bar down during dumbbell curls? What if I just came over to some guy doing cardio on the treadmill and hit the stop button? I don’t know how this would turn out good. Or like let’s saw I saw some jacked guy at the grocery store with huge amounts of eggs, steaks, brown rice, and potatoes in his cart and correctly identified him as a lifter and blocked his path to the checkout counter?

I’m all into sabotaging and hating. Anyone got ideas?

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
No. Lean body mass is determined from a body fat test. Brick was claiming some “40-50lbs” number that can not be calculated in any way at all without someone dying first…which means his number range is arbitrary and unsupported.
[/quote]
Brick was always talking about LBM he just thinks you’re 20+% bodyfat with the end point for that 40-50lb benchmark being determined by what the best natural bodybuilders(of all races) have done. The beginning point for that is a bit more ambiguous and what counts as training induced LBM is as well and I’m sure he be willing to discuss it.

It seems when you talk about 80 LBM gains he takes it to mean that you have surpassed even what the top outliers in natural bodybuilding have done by twice as much and are moving in on IFBB pro territory.

If you don’t think your LBM gains far surpass what the top naturals have done then you disagree with Bricks starting point. If you do than you disagree with his end point.[/quote]

Yup! Apparently you have explained my points better than I have. :slight_smile:

I believe his main gripe is that some of my statements limit people. How, I have no clue. As I’ve said, the only way I can limit someone is to use privation. That is, sabotaging one’s entry or effort in a gym or food shopping and eating. I don’t know how to do that, nor would I. It would also be rude if I went up to hard working people in a gym and during a set, stopped them from lifting a weight or told them to stop. Like imagine some big guy one arm rowing and I come over and grab the dumbbell or shout at him, “stop”. What if I yanked at some guy’s legs during chins or dips? Or slapped the bar down during dumbbell curls? What if I just came over to some guy doing cardio on the treadmill and hit the stop button? I don’t know how this would turn out good. Or like let’s saw I saw some jacked guy at the grocery store with huge amounts of eggs, steaks, brown rice, and potatoes in his cart and correctly identified him as a lifter and blocked his path to the checkout counter?

I’m all into sabotaging and hating. Anyone got ideas?[/quote]
Hum maybe recommend that one not go over the RDA for protein if one lifts lol.

[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
No. Lean body mass is determined from a body fat test. Brick was claiming some “40-50lbs” number that can not be calculated in any way at all without someone dying first…which means his number range is arbitrary and unsupported.
[/quote]
Brick was always talking about LBM he just thinks you’re 20+% bodyfat with the end point for that 40-50lb benchmark being determined by what the best natural bodybuilders(of all races) have done. The beginning point for that is a bit more ambiguous and what counts as training induced LBM is as well and I’m sure he be willing to discuss it.

It seems when you talk about 80 LBM gains he takes it to mean that you have surpassed even what the top outliers in natural bodybuilding have done by twice as much and are moving in on IFBB pro territory.

If you don’t think your LBM gains far surpass what the top naturals have done then you disagree with Bricks starting point. If you do than you disagree with his end point.[/quote]

Yup! Apparently you have explained my points better than I have. :slight_smile:

I believe his main gripe is that some of my statements limit people. How, I have no clue. As I’ve said, the only way I can limit someone is to use privation. That is, sabotaging one’s entry or effort in a gym or food shopping and eating. I don’t know how to do that, nor would I. It would also be rude if I went up to hard working people in a gym and during a set, stopped them from lifting a weight or told them to stop. Like imagine some big guy one arm rowing and I come over and grab the dumbbell or shout at him, “stop”. What if I yanked at some guy’s legs during chins or dips? Or slapped the bar down during dumbbell curls? What if I just came over to some guy doing cardio on the treadmill and hit the stop button? I don’t know how this would turn out good. Or like let’s saw I saw some jacked guy at the grocery store with huge amounts of eggs, steaks, brown rice, and potatoes in his cart and correctly identified him as a lifter and blocked his path to the checkout counter?

I’m all into sabotaging and hating. Anyone got ideas?[/quote]
Hum maybe recommend that one not go over the RDA for protein if one lifts lol.[/quote]

Food Guide Pyramid too. :slight_smile:

[quote]Myosin wrote:

[quote]Smashingweights wrote:
Wah wah waaaaaahhh.
Same predictable crap.
You are boring with this.
Keep trolling and driving up the click counts.
Keep this forum popping up on the first page of google searches because of all these key words and phrases
I’m sure that’s the reason you are still allowed to post here, unless you have part ownership of the company is something.
[/quote]

One has to believe there is a good amount of truth to this.

Really, it explains everything.[/quote]

I guess I always just assumed this to be true and that everyone sort of knew it and played along for kicks.

C’mon, it’s a supplement company. What draws people to the site better than a master troll who contradicts literally everything posted? People get so determined to NOT do what does, so they go buy a bunch of supps for those LEAN GAINZZZZ!!

People are naive who believe PX isn’t here by design.

[quote]BrickHead wrote:

[quote]JoabSonOfZeruiah wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
No. Lean body mass is determined from a body fat test. Brick was claiming some “40-50lbs” number that can not be calculated in any way at all without someone dying first…which means his number range is arbitrary and unsupported.
[/quote]
Brick was always talking about LBM he just thinks you’re 20+% bodyfat with the end point for that 40-50lb benchmark being determined by what the best natural bodybuilders(of all races) have done. The beginning point for that is a bit more ambiguous and what counts as training induced LBM is as well and I’m sure he be willing to discuss it.

It seems when you talk about 80 LBM gains he takes it to mean that you have surpassed even what the top outliers in natural bodybuilding have done by twice as much and are moving in on IFBB pro territory.

If you don’t think your LBM gains far surpass what the top naturals have done then you disagree with Bricks starting point. If you do than you disagree with his end point.[/quote]

Yup! Apparently you have explained my points better than I have. :slight_smile:

I believe his main gripe is that some of my statements limit people. How, I have no clue. As I’ve said, the only way I can limit someone is to use privation. That is, sabotaging one’s entry or effort in a gym or food shopping and eating. I don’t know how to do that, nor would I. It would also be rude if I went up to hard working people in a gym and during a set, stopped them from lifting a weight or told them to stop. Like imagine some big guy one arm rowing and I come over and grab the dumbbell or shout at him, “stop”. What if I yanked at some guy’s legs during chins or dips? Or slapped the bar down during dumbbell curls? What if I just came over to some guy doing cardio on the treadmill and hit the stop button? I don’t know how this would turn out good. Or like let’s saw I saw some jacked guy at the grocery store with huge amounts of eggs, steaks, brown rice, and potatoes in his cart and correctly identified him as a lifter and blocked his path to the checkout counter?

I’m all into sabotaging and hating. Anyone got ideas?[/quote]

The other day in the gym I was trying to grind out a few extra reps but then I remembered our discussion on genetic limits and thought, “What’s the point?” and I stopped the set immediately. If only I had never read about genetic limits. Maybe I could train harder.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
Funny how this shit never comes up in the gym[/quote]

LOL…and it won’t much for the same reasons I posted before about gym camaraderie.

This has to be one of the only sites about weight lifting where they will try to degrade someone’s progress simply because they aren’t below 10% body fat or care to be.[/quote]

This has to be one of the only posters who will try to degrade someone’s progress simpley because they are trying to get bellow 10% bf and dont care to be 200+.

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

This has to be one of the only sites about weight lifting where they will try to degrade someone’s progress simply because they aren’t below 10% body fat or care to be.[/quote]

This has to be one of the only posters who will try to degrade someone’s progress simpley because they are trying to get bellow 10% bf and dont care to be 200+. [/quote]

This has to be one of the funniest quote/reply/posts that I’ve seen today.

S

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]solidkhalid wrote:
Funny how this shit never comes up in the gym[/quote]

LOL…and it won’t much for the same reasons I posted before about gym camaraderie.

This has to be one of the only sites about weight lifting where they will try to degrade someone’s progress simply because they aren’t below 10% body fat or care to be.[/quote]

This has to be one of the only posters who will try to degrade someone’s progress simpley because they are trying to get bellow 10% bf and dont care to be 200+. [/quote]

Where did I degrade someone for trying to get leaner?

I would never do that so what posts are you reading?

[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:

[quote]Waittz wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

This has to be one of the only sites about weight lifting where they will try to degrade someone’s progress simply because they aren’t below 10% body fat or care to be.[/quote]

This has to be one of the only posters who will try to degrade someone’s progress simpley because they are trying to get bellow 10% bf and dont care to be 200+. [/quote]

This has to be one of the funniest quote/reply/posts that I’ve seen today.

S[/quote]

Then anything gets you off because nowhere would I degrade someone for having a goal of being leaner.

yet many of you are degrading me for not caring to get below 10% body fat.
It is very strange you don’t see your own actions or see your own faults.