[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
What’s wrong with toast?
The more toast you have, the more ice-cream you can buy.
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True, but a toaster should be able to make ice-cream as well. Otherwise it’s a useless, non-functional piece of scrap. It’s like a bodybuilder not being able to do one-legged jumps over a hurdle on the first attempt.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
What’s wrong with toast?
The more toast you have, the more ice-cream you can buy.
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True, but a toaster should be able to make ice-cream as well. Otherwise it’s a useless, non-functional piece of scrap. It’s like a bodybuilder not being able to do one-legged jumps over a hurdle on the first attempt.[/quote]
Why jump over it if you can just run through it?
And besides… Didn’t your mother teach you how to put a toaster inside a freezer? You only need a blender to make toast-ice-cream then, which goes perfectly with full-body workouts.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Charged wrote:
Ok ill get the GSP vid for you of GSP jumping hurdles. Whats the next task Captain?[/quote]
Crucially, unlike Christie, he didn’t do it on one leg. If GSP had trained like a 100m sprinter, he could’ve done that - but then he wouldn’t have won as many fights…D’oh!
LOL @ “references”. References are for job interviews… you are a very pedantic basketball player looking for spreadsheets for Waterbury programs. On a bodybuilding forum…nothing more to say.
I’m sure you’re more than capable of finding the references yourself by using the dazzling Google skills that led you to the Waterbury spreadsheets in the first place. Oh wait - that was me.
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So you admit. If Linford Christie trained like a fighter he wouldn’t be as good of a sprinter? And if GSP trained like a sprinter he wouldn’t be as good of a fighter?
So why do you think I should follow a bodybuilding programme for basketball?
I cant use Google. You do it for me and prove your own point.
Just curious for future reference. Where would be the best place to ask for spreadsheet programmes? Keep in mind 80% of the programmes on the spreadsheet are for bodybuilding.
[quote]Charged wrote:
Just curious for future reference. Where would be the best place to ask for spreadsheet programmes? Keep in mind 80% of the programmes on the spreadsheet are for bodybuilding.[/quote]
Private Message Bonez217
He has all that shit.
[quote]Charged wrote:
So you admit. If Linford Christie trained like a fighter he wouldn’t be as good of a sprinter? And if GSP trained like a sprinter he wouldn’t be as good of a fighter? [/quote]
That wasn’t what you were arguing. Throughout this thread you have labored under the delusion that you absolutely have to follow Waterbury routines because TBT is somehow superior for athletes. My point earlier was that GSP must be a terrible athlete and TBT doesn’t work because he can’t do one-legged hops over a hurdle. Just using your “logic”. No surprise that you got the wrong end of the stick there…
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So why do you think I should follow a bodybuilding programme for basketball?[/quote]
Is this a trick question or do you genuinely not know what you’re doing? I mean, you consider the Waterbury routines you’ve been chasing up to be bodybuilding routines, but you have no problem using them for basketball. My conclusion? You’re either a particularly clueless oaf or a bad troll, maybe both.
A more pertinent question would be “why are you here, then?” And don’t say “Waterbury spreadsheets”. You’ve already got them, but you’re still hanging around like a bad smell…
[quote]I cant use Google.[/quote]Then stop pretending that you found the spreadsheets yourself. Your trolling is becoming more obvious by the minute…
[quote]You do it for me and prove your own point.
[/quote] Already have, thanks anyway…
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Charged wrote:
So you admit. If Linford Christie trained like a fighter he wouldn’t be as good of a sprinter? And if GSP trained like a sprinter he wouldn’t be as good of a fighter? [/quote]
That wasn’t what you were arguing. Throughout this thread you have labored under the delusion that you absolutely have to follow Waterbury routines because TBT is somehow superior for athletes. My point earlier was that GSP must be a terrible athlete and TBT doesn’t work because he can’t do one-legged hops over a hurdle. Just using your “logic”. No surprise that you got the wrong end of the stick there…
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So why do you think I should follow a bodybuilding programme for basketball?[/quote]
Is this a trick question or do you genuinely not know what you’re doing? I mean, you consider the Waterbury routines you’ve been chasing up to be bodybuilding routines, but you have no problem using them for basketball. My conclusion? You’re either a particularly clueless oaf or a bad troll, maybe both.
A more pertinent question would be “why are you here, then?” And don’t say “Waterbury spreadsheets”. You’ve already got them, but you’re still hanging around like a bad smell…
[quote]I cant use Google.[/quote]Then stop pretending that you found the spreadsheets yourself. Your trolling is becoming more obvious by the minute…
[quote]You do it for me and prove your own point.
[/quote] Already have, thanks anyway…[/quote]
OK, quote me saying TBT are the absolute necessity for athletes even though I’m currently using WS4SB?
You still haven’t shown me proof that Christie uses split training. Yet i’ve proen all of my points with actual video footage.
And please read MY second post. That was when this should of ended. When I typed FOUND THE SPREADSHEETS, PM ME IF YOU WANT.
So 11 posts after I declared that I had found them you posted a link. Why?
[quote]Charged wrote:
Just curious for future reference. Where would be the best place to ask for spreadsheet programmes? Keep in mind 80% of the programmes on the spreadsheet are for bodybuilding.[/quote]
Ask the toaster.
[quote]Charged wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Charged wrote:
So you admit. If Linford Christie trained like a fighter he wouldn’t be as good of a sprinter? And if GSP trained like a sprinter he wouldn’t be as good of a fighter? [/quote]
That wasn’t what you were arguing. Throughout this thread you have labored under the delusion that you absolutely have to follow Waterbury routines because TBT is somehow superior for athletes. My point earlier was that GSP must be a terrible athlete and TBT doesn’t work because he can’t do one-legged hops over a hurdle. Just using your “logic”. No surprise that you got the wrong end of the stick there…
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
[quote]Charged wrote:
OK, quote me saying TBT are the absolute necessity for athletes even though I’m currently using WS4SB?
You still haven’t shown me proof that Christie uses split training. Yet i’ve proen all of my points with actual video footage.
And please read MY second post. That was when this should of ended. When I typed FOUND THE SPREADSHEETS, PM ME IF YOU WANT.
So 11 posts after I declared that I had found them you posted a link. Why?
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One night I ate cottage cheese out of the container with a spoon. The following morning I finished the rest, but used a fork. Why did it taste different? Why? Why?
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
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Ice-cream tastes like headaches.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
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I like ice-cream…it tastes like headaches.
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You should stop walking with the dog, then.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
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I like ice-cream…it tastes like headaches.
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You should stop walking with the dog, then.
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I don’t walk with the dog, silly. He’s piloting the helicopter.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
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I like ice-cream…it tastes like headaches.
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You should stop walking with the dog, then.
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I don’t walk with the dog, silly. He’s piloting the helicopter.[/quote]
But what about the children?
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
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I like ice-cream…it tastes like headaches.
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You should stop walking with the dog, then.
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I don’t walk with the dog, silly. He’s piloting the helicopter.[/quote]
But what about the children?
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Tickling piglets in an igloo.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Because of ice-cream. Duh.
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I like ice-cream…it tastes like headaches.
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You should stop walking with the dog, then.
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I don’t walk with the dog, silly. He’s piloting the helicopter.[/quote]
But what about the children?
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Tickling piglets in an igloo.[/quote]
Win
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
And let’s not forget: All that on a diet consisting mostly of carbs.
Always hilarious to me when people go on about their golden-age heroes and how their full-body routines were oh so much better for natties, and how we haven’t gotten better in diet/training etc… Bwahahaha.
The most hilarious part: Modern authors keep inventing full-body routines and saying that those match what guys like park used… Something like Barbell Curl, OHP, Squat, Bench, Pull-ups, SLDL’s, the end.
Yeah, as we can see, Park did exactly that… And then 20 other exercises for good measure…
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Very true Carnage. The guys whom were the biggest influence on me, were either training in the 30’s onwards or at least their Arnold, or Ronnie, etc were Hise and Parks, Reeves…
The wacko shit people did when BB’ing was being ‘discovered’ astounds me.
I like a lot of the Golden-Agers, but I laugh too, when authours claim their Whole Body Systems are just like what Parks was doing…
If you want a good ‘side show’ about peoples experiments/adventures during the Golden Age, I could PM you some of my Uncle/Mentors log info between 30’s-50’s, during and just after his years in Russia fascinating/scary stuff…
This is why I asked in another thread about Waterbury if there could be a separate forum for people that like guys like Waterbury, Cosgrove, Pavel, etc. Their programs aren’t bodybuilding, but they are also not powerlifting, olympic lifting, or MMA either. I know I’ve posted some over the line stuff in the bodybuilding forum as well, but initially I just didn’t know where else to post probably like some others. I would rather not waste anyone else’s time with TBT vs. Splits, Athletes vs Bodybuilers, or Waterbury vs. God arguments anymore. If you feel the same way then maybe some of you more senior members could help.
I don’t think I’d mind if those threads be started here, HOWEVER, no one should be claiming that they are doing said program for bodybuilding. However this is often the case.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I don’t think I’d mind if those threads be started here, HOWEVER, no one should be claiming that they are doing said program for bodybuilding. However this is often the case.[/quote]
But you know that’s not what’s going to happen. I don’t work fullbody thinking I’m going to wake up one day and be so big I’ll make Ronnie Coleman look like Gary Coleman or think everyone that does split routines is on steroids.
I do them because: 1) I hate trying to get to the gym 5 and 6 days a week and 2) I can’t get motivated trying to get to the gym thinking I’m only going to work my chest or back or whatever.
So I would rather leave the bodybuilding forum to bodybuilding training and have a separate forum for guys that are just more into getting in better shape, getting bigger, getting stronger, etc. I think most of the bodybuilders would agree it would alleviate having to argue with someone over why bodybuilding training from the 50s is supreme to today.