Celebrations in Gaza

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Phate89 wrote:

“Israel should have killed more innocents”
Comments like that that make me feel no pity when zionists are killed!

Keep crying you big baby, Israel isn’t shit without American’s weapons and money.[/quote]

But Israel will never be without our money, or weapons. Notice the way I put innocents in quotation marks. That was sarcasm. There is no such thing as an innocent palestinian.

I am glad you are at least honest in your hatred of the Jew. Did you celebrate with the other Jew haters the other day?

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[quote]Tokoya wrote:

There is no group more adept than muslims at using their families (or other innocents) as shields in warfare, then bitching to Reuters & the Arab media about their civillian casualties.[/quote]

Game. Set. Match.

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[quote]Phate89 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
I feel no pity.
Zionists kill palestinian women and children, only fair to pay it back.

You are scum.

I have seen your anti-arab posts and threads, call me what you will, imo you are scum.
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Fuck off you lying sack of shit. I do not make anti-Arab or any other racial posts. I despise people that have used Islam as justification of their hate and murder and I think the basis of Islam makes that much easier to do than the basis of other religions.

You can take your race based hatred and stick it up your ass but don’t you dare accuse me of that horsehit.

Anyone that feels it is “fair” to murder children is scum. It is always unfair and should be avoided. Children being killed is an unfortunate reality of war but they should never be the target.

You are scum, you have made that quite clear.

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[quote]Phate89 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
As for the person that said Israel was still on a leash during Lebanon, Ha. They were completely off the leash, they just got their ass fucking owned against an enemy that was prepared in their homeland. All Israel managed to do was kill 1000 innocent civilians while Hezbollah atleast killed Israeli soldiers.
Guerrila warfare FTW…

I am assuming you are just a kid, because anyone that was alive in the early 70’s knows you are talking out of your ass. Hell - even our resident terrorist, lixy, knows Israel is not to be fucked with militarily.

Israel has not been unleashed since 1973.

Israel should have killed more “innocents”. Ask Syria if they want to fuck with Israel again. That’s why they fund hezbolah.

“Israel should have killed more innocents”
Comments like that that make me feel no pity when zionists are killed!

Keep crying you big baby, Israel isn’t shit without American’s weapons and money.[/quote]

Any your precious Hezbollah and Hamas are nothing but shit even with Iran and Syria’s weapons and money.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:
If the whole world cared, why wouldn’t Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, ect build settlements in their countries for these people and give them places to live? [/quote]

Lebanon is off limit. They sacrificed more than anyone else to accommodate the Palestinians. Don’t talk about what you don’t know.

The rest are ruled by two-faced pricks who don’t give a damn about representing the will of their people. That said, I would not want to accommodate broke-ass Palestinian refugees in my country because we have one of the most important Jewish diaspora, and the grievances of the Palestinians (however legitimate) are no reason to lash out at non-Zionist Jews.

Israel has been nothing but trouble to the world, and it will continue to be so for as long as it exists.

Maybe so.

Although, if I put myself in Palestinian shoes, I know that I’ll keep fighting and resisting the oppressor till my last breath. At least, as long as the current status quo is around.

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[quote]Tokoya wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
I feel no pity.
Zionists kill palestinian women and children, only fair to pay it back.

You are scum.

I have seen your anti-arab posts and threads, call me what you will, imo you are scum.

Your avatar is real cute too by the way, really shows your jingoism.

As for the person that said Israel was still on a leash during Lebanon, Ha. They were completely off the leash, they just got their ass fucking owned against an enemy that was prepared in their homeland. All Israel managed to do was kill 1000 innocent civilians while Hezbollah atleast killed Israeli soldiers.
Guerrila warfare FTW…

By “Guerrila warefare” you mean hiding among and behind women and children during the fighting correct? Substitute “muslim” for “Guerrila” warefare, and you are on to something. They are pretty good at using their “holy” mosques as a place to fight from as well. Very impressive.

There is no group more adept than muslims at using their families (or other innocents) as shields in warfare, then bitching to Reuters & the Arab media about their civillian casualties.

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Yes. They bring their innocents into the middle of warfare. They are the scum of the earth, it is no wonder that phate89 masturbates over them.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Israel has been nothing but trouble to the world, and it will continue to be so for as long as it exists.
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How does it trouble the Tahitians?

The trouble is the terror which spread from hatred of the Israelis into a global war against non-muslims in many, many countries.

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[quote]lixy wrote:

Although, if I put myself in Palestinian shoes, I know that I’ll keep fighting and resisting the oppressor till my last breath. At least, as long as the current status quo is around.[/quote]

Interesting concept. Fight to your dying breath rather than fight to make your life better for you and your family.

Interesting.

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[quote]thunderbolt23 wrote:
As for Jewish “invasion” into precious Arab lands, Jews began buying up land long before the 1940s. Not invading with armies, swords, and gunpowder - they purchased the property from the Turkish Crown. [/quote]

There’s a tremendous amount of Jews who disagree with your perception.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org

[quote]And, of course, the Jews transformed a badlands into a flourishing area - so much that Arabs began moving there to take advantage of the development.

And since we are all atwitter about quotes, here is one:

How come the Zionist gang has managed to be superior to us, despite being so few? It has become superior through knowledge, through technology, and through strength. It has become superior to us through work. We had the desert before our eyes but we didn’t do anything with it. When they took over, they turned it into a green oasis. How can a nation that does not work progress? How can it grow?

-Sheikh Yousuf al-Qaradhawi[/quote]

And the guy was spot on in this regard. Zionists have worked really really hard to get their own state. They created massive lobbies that actively influenced the big power’s policies. They bought every media outlest they could lay their hands on. They focused on education and knowledge when Arabs were still mystified by technology and quibbling over who’s camel is faster.

And let’s not forget the mighty AIPAC.

I don’t see what argument your quote was directed at.

Politically correct? What do you mean?

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[quote]lixy wrote:

Israel has been nothing but trouble to the world, and it will continue to be so for as long as it exists.
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Worldwide trouble since the '40’s, huh?

Please elaborate how Israel Israel has been nothing but trouble.

Have they sponsored worldwide terrorism?

Have they hijacked planes full of innocent passengers and flown them into buildings?

Have they bombed malls, nightclubs, or restaurants on the other side of the globe?

Please tell me how they have been nothing but trouble to the entire world.

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[quote]lixy wrote:

Lebanon is off limit. They sacrificed more than anyone else to accommodate the Palestinians. Don’t talk about what you don’t know.

The rest are ruled by two-faced pricks who don’t give a damn about representing the will of their people. That said, I would not want to accommodate broke-ass Palestinian refugees in my country because we have one of the most important Jewish diaspora, and the grievances of the Palestinians (however legitimate) are no reason to lash out at non-Zionist Jews.[/quote]

And here is the entire thing in a nutshell - Arab nations don’t care about the plight of the Palestinians. They could fix the Palestinians’ problem in short order - but as we see from this post, even Lixy wouldn’t make room for “broke ass refugees”.

Palestinians are seen as “untouchables” - and they exist only to provide a pretext to lash out against Israel. Palestinians’ actual health and well being is not a concern.

And why would it be? Fact is, folks like Lixy [b]need[/b] Palestinians to remain dirty, poor, and backwards - if ever was a day that Palestinians were well-adjusted, taken care of, and safe, Lixy and his ideological brethren would lose their pet vehicle to advance their hatred of Israel and desire to annihilate the Jewish state.

So, Lixy and Arabs/Muslims have a vested interest in keeping the Palestinians poor and stupid - they make for useful tools. Lixy has no humanitarian interest in “broke ass refugee” Palestinians or the safety of their families - they are nothing more than cheap, disposable pawns in a scheme to foment hate of Israel.

As such, someone will need to look after that Palestinians - so it will fall on the West, naturally, to help Palestinians. And I support that notion. The Arabs and Muslims around the world certainly aren’t going to do it - they couldn’t care less about Palestinians.

It’s disgusting. But not surprising.

True colors.

No, you wouldn’t - you don’t even have sack enough to back to your home country and dare to support reform. You want to skitter off to a safe place and then bitch about problems on an internet chat board from the comforts of an internet cafe in the West somewhere.

No, there are brave people in the world who fight against oppressors that deserve our appreciation - you just aren’t one of them, and never have been, and, let’s face it, never will be.

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Trouble worldwide? Bwahaha. Those aren’t jewish seperatist groups sprouting up everywhere, or killing African animists.

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[quote]lixy wrote:
Gkhan wrote:
If the whole world cared, why wouldn’t Saudi Arabia, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan, ect build settlements in their countries for these people and give them places to live?

Lebanon is off limit. They sacrificed more than anyone else to accommodate the Palestinians. Don’t talk about what you don’t know.

The rest are ruled by two-faced pricks who don’t give a damn about representing the will of their people. That said, I would not want to accommodate broke-ass Palestinian refugees in my country because we have one of the most important Jewish diaspora, and the grievances of the Palestinians (however legitimate) are no reason to lash out at non-Zionist Jews.

Israel has been nothing but trouble to the world, and it will continue to be so for as long as it exists.

Maybe if the Palestinians stopped bitching about Israel, stopped attacking Israel and began building A NATION instead of a terror state, they would get out of their economic poverty.

Maybe so.

Although, if I put myself in Palestinian shoes, I know that I’ll keep fighting and resisting the oppressor till my last breath. At least, as long as the current status quo is around.[/quote]

Actually, any “fighting” would do so while hiding behind your women and children correct? I loved the way the Palestinians fled into the Church of Nativity amongst women, children and a few monks after getting their collective asses kicked during the fighting a few years back. Such brave folks.

As for for your comment about Israel, substitute “islam”, for Israel, and we are in perfect agreement.

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Maybe I should support war against Middle Eastern nations. If not only to win land for my Christian brothers persecuted and oppresed in the ME. Fight to your last breath, Christian brothers. This is why I can’t repect your “Pacifism.” It’s conviently forgotten when it comes to Islamic proxy armies and seperatists, and leftists guerillas

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[quote]lixy wrote:

There’s a tremendous amount of Jews who disagree with your perception.

http://www.ifamericansknew.org

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I don’t know if your partisan website qualifies as “a tremendous amount of Jews”, but setting your predictable weakness in citing references in bad faith, the “history” section offered in the website doesn’t even address the nature of the claims I was addressing - as in, that when Jews began buying up land in the 1800s, that Arabs weren’t being “pushed” off their land.

Learn how to receive information and provide credible counterarguments, or stop wasting my time.

That is because you suffer from bad reading comprehension skills. Zionists, far from moving in with force, bought the land and transformed into a productive development that actually contributed to the rise in population of Arabs.

The quote relates that even a terrorist lieutenant recognizes that the Jewish presence was good for the area and did not have a negative impact on Arabs in the area - well, nothing negative that counts.

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Oh, just for kicks, the website Lixy referenced had this to say about the 1948 war:

When the inevitable war broke out the outcome was never in doubt, according to U.S. intelligence reports from the time.

According to these sharp tacks at the website, the war in 1948 - incontrovertibly a war of naked aggression by Arab states against the hated Israel - is summarily described as an “inevitable war”, suggesting that impersonal, external forces create a natural conflict and, of course, Arab nations surely weren’t to blame for starting a war of annihilation.

Embarrassing and transparent.

What a piece of trash - but just file this one in the shameful library of garbage Lixy has tried to use as referential support of his foolish ideology.

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[quote]Tokoya wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
I feel no pity.
Zionists kill palestinian women and children, only fair to pay it back.

You are scum.

I have seen your anti-arab posts and threads, call me what you will, imo you are scum.

Your avatar is real cute too by the way, really shows your jingoism.

As for the person that said Israel was still on a leash during Lebanon, Ha. They were completely off the leash, they just got their ass fucking owned against an enemy that was prepared in their homeland. All Israel managed to do was kill 1000 innocent civilians while Hezbollah atleast killed Israeli soldiers.
Guerrila warfare FTW…

By “Guerrila warefare” you mean hiding among and behind women and children during the fighting correct? Substitute “muslim” for “Guerrila” warefare, and you are on to something. They are pretty good at using their “holy” mosques as a place to fight from as well. Very impressive.

There is no group more adept than muslims at using their families (or other innocents) as shields in warfare, then bitching to Reuters & the Arab media about their civillian casualties.

[/quote]

QFT

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
rainjack wrote:
orion wrote:
Plus, you used fallacy number 24 (genetic fallacy) and , your personal favorite, good old number 32 (ad hominem).

Since your whole “argument” is a string of fallacies, technically, you made no argument at all.

#32 is personal attack -not ad hominem - which a I freely admit to.

#24 is not Genetic Fallacy, it is False Dilema.

You are the one who is a master of your favorite: #1. And how can you accuseme of Genetic fallacy, when your little Nazi bullshit is the same fucking example they give for #26?

Are you really this stupid, or can you just not fucking read? (#32)

Here’s the link again: Fallacies - Nizkor

Please try harder. You are particularly pathetic today.

This is not the same.

Dismissing anything that comes from wikipedia is a genetic fallacy.

PROVING that you sound like a nazi by quoting nazis making the same comparisons as you do is not a genetic fallacy.

When wiki is not a reliable source for non-scientific debate, and has already been proven as such, there is no fallacy. It is dismissing drivel.

“I sound like a nazi, therefore I am one” is nothing but pure genetic fallacy.

What part of the debate centers around nazi’s in the first place?

You used #26 to do a #1.

Now - go learn the numbers, then maybe take the rest of the day off. You are not even in the ballpark today.

As long as we have established that you use the same rhetoric and reasoning as Nazis in propaganda speeches I concur that this does not automatically make you a Nazi.

Just as an animal that walks like a duck and talks like a talk could be something eerily duck-like, but not quite a duck.

“We” have not established shit. You used a fallacy to get to another.

Just because I refer to a group of murderous, nomadic, terrorists bent on the destruction of Israel as vermin does not make me a nazi. It makes me extremely pro-Israel.

But you just can’t wrap your tiny little pea-sized brain around that notion, so you have to resort to multiple fallacies.

Seriously - just stop embarrassing yourself.
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Hey I´ll grant you even that.

You are a pro-Israel American using the same rhetoric and reasoning the Nazis used in their propaganda speeches.

And, as I conceded that does not make you a Nazi.

It makes you someone who argues like one for a similar outcome.

Would you prefer Nazi-esque?

Para- Nazi? Quasi- Nazi? Nazi-phil, or Philonazi?

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Phate89 wrote:

“Israel should have killed more innocents”
Comments like that that make me feel no pity when zionists are killed!

Keep crying you big baby, Israel isn’t shit without American’s weapons and money.

But Israel will never be without our money, or weapons. Notice the way I put innocents in quotation marks. That was sarcasm. There is no such thing as an innocent palestinian.

I am glad you are at least honest in your hatred of the Jew. Did you celebrate with the other Jew haters the other day?

[/quote]

Celebrate? No I don’t “celebrate” in the death of innocents, even zionists. I just didn’t pity them.

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[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Phate89 wrote:
As for the person that said Israel was still on a leash during Lebanon, Ha. They were completely off the leash, they just got their ass fucking owned against an enemy that was prepared in their homeland. All Israel managed to do was kill 1000 innocent civilians while Hezbollah atleast killed Israeli soldiers.
Guerrila warfare FTW…

I am assuming you are just a kid, because anyone that was alive in the early 70’s knows you are talking out of your ass. Hell - even our resident terrorist, lixy, knows Israel is not to be fucked with militarily.

Israel has not been unleashed since 1973.

Israel should have killed more “innocents”. Ask Syria if they want to fuck with Israel again. That’s why they fund hezbolah.

“Israel should have killed more innocents”
Comments like that that make me feel no pity when zionists are killed!

Keep crying you big baby, Israel isn’t shit without American’s weapons and money.

Any your precious Hezbollah and Hamas are nothing but shit even with Iran and Syria’s weapons and money.[/quote]

Is that why Israel retreated with their tails behind their legs after not even accomplishing their main objectives, or rescuing those 2 israeli soldiers?