Carano vs. Cyborg

Well well well…here goes the whispers “cyborg’s on the juice”…Shut the fffuuuuuuuuu*k up!! Everyone’s just mad because their prom queen got her face scratched by a boner shrinker. You all act like my female friends who chose sports teams because “i like the colors of their uniforms”.

Anyone who posted on this thread should know these fighters well enough to know the fight would have ended like this. Now everyone thinks Cyborg is on the juice because she is “huge” @ 145lbs… Gina is actually bigger than Cyborg and has had trouble making weight on a couple occasions. Cyborg just has very little fat. Maybe you all should take a look at Cyborgs training to realize why she’s so muscular. I doubt Gina is going around flipping tractor tires and using a sledge hammer.

At the end of the day it was more than just her strength. For instance, compare the builds of BJ and Sherk, yet still BJ destroyed him. Strength alone doesn’t override skill and a good game plan. Thats my take, and i’m sticking to it until the drug tests.

[quote]angus_beef wrote:
Well well well…here goes the whispers “cyborg’s on the juice”…Shut the fffuuuuuuuuu*k up!! Everyone’s just mad because their prom queen got her face scratched by a boner shrinker. You all act like my female friends who chose sports teams because “i like the colors of their uniforms”.

Anyone who posted on this thread should know these fighters well enough to know the fight would have ended like this. Now everyone thinks Cyborg is on the juice because she is “huge” @ 145lbs… Gina is actually bigger than Cyborg and has had trouble making weight on a couple occasions. Cyborg just has very little fat. Maybe you all should take a look at Cyborgs training to realize why she’s so muscular. I doubt Gina is going around flipping tractor tires and using a sledge hammer.

At the end of the day it was more than just her strength. For instance, compare the builds of BJ and Sherk, yet still BJ destroyed him. Strength alone doesn’t override skill and a good game plan. Thats my take, and i’m sticking to it until the drug tests.[/quote]

x2

But with less anger.

Everyone was hyping Gina up based solely on her popularity and making her a heavy favorite. The fact is Cyborg’s striking is just as good, her grappling is much better, and she’s much stronger. Yes, Gina’s got a good bit of Mauy Thai experience, but she’s barely a 1 or 2 year white belt on the ground. Cyborg’s got a lot of kick boxing experience herself (though not nearly as well publicized as Gina) and she’s a legit purple on the mat.

Hell, if Cyborg wouldn’t have gotten sloppy with those first two takedowns, this fight would have been over a lot quicker and it would have ended a lot uglier for Gina. I think Cyborg started to smell the blood in the water and got a little over-anxious, leading to her screwing up some simple takedowns. Once she settled in, it was textbook.

I wonder what the EliteXC / StrikeForce management think about having their two cash-cows defeated so soundly (first Kimbo and now Gina). They put a lot of money in building the two of them up only to have them get smashed when the biggest spotlight was on. Well, at least they have Fedor now…even if they don’t have any legit opponents for him.

Angus_beef you can stick to whatever you want. People like you also stuck to Barry Bonds never using PED’s until the tests came out and they were just as wrong as you probably are now. I have no time for people that underplay the use of PED’s in sports.

Besides that your argument sucks and has misinformation. You display a very elementary level of knowledge on this subject yet you bring into question everyone elses scholarship of mma.

[quote]jd_dd wrote:
Well, at least they have Fedor now…even if they don’t have any legit opponents for him.[/quote]

Oh please tell us, where exactly can we find all these legit opponents for Fedor then? The UFC? If so, which UFC HW’s would you consider legit for Fedor? Inquiring minds want to know.

By the way, I loved y’alls analysis of why everyone picked Carano and the reason they are butt hurt now. Really insightful, keep up the good work.

[quote]Bondslave wrote:
Angus_beef you can stick to whatever you want. People like you also stuck to Barry Bonds never using PED’s until the tests came out and they were just as wrong as you probably are now. I have no time for people that underplay the use of PED’s in sports.

Besides that your argument sucks and has misinformation. You display a very elementary level of knowledge on this subject yet you bring into question everyone elses scholarship of mma.[/quote]

Actually people like me don’t even watch Baseball. Look, no one knows if she is or not, i never sad she wasn’t, but i’m not going to bash her either because there is no proof that she is. I cannot stand when people jump to conclusions like that. These are the same people that think every guy who is larger than normal is automatically on steroids, neglecting the fact that the guy is busting his butt in the gym and lives by a strict diet.

Also please elaborate on what i was misinformed about because Gina has DEFINITELY struggled making weight. And unlike alot of guys, i have seen all of Cyborg’s MMA fights and most of Gina’s.

Most of the post on this thread is focused on how “hot” Gina is and how “manly” Cyborg is and you say my level of knowledge is elementary when it comes to the subject…ha

It was over at the weigh-in. Carano is a chunky housewife in need of a slapping. I would let Cyborg touch my royal penis, and later, I would touch hers without asking.

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Anyone else looking forward to Cyborg’s first MAXIM photoshoot like I am??

lol[/quote]

I oddly am.

It was very exciting to watch live and was a great fight. Great energy at the place except for the boo’s but thats to be expected…

Can anyone ever not bring up steroids? The fight was in California who fails everyone… Not saying there isn’t a chance she never has or doesn’t hide it but same can be said for most any male mma fighter that all the same of you guys idolize. Yes Gina is damn hot but she lost stop trying to justify it.

Your gentics are only going to take you so far and she is a woman to boot (At least I think she is). She has very little bodyfat yet she still weighed in at 143-144 after a cut in weight. I have seen 5’8 thin models (with very little body fat) weigh in at 110-120. She put on 30+ pounds of muscle without juice? I could care less who won and it was my opinion of her before the fight. We will never know absolutely because they will never test her.

There will be a very small faction people who go to the grave saying Sammy Sosa didn’t juice either and we will never know absolutely unless he is on the “list”. It will be the same thing with Cyborg. Some people refuse to allow common sense to dictate their thinking.

Is it wrong that when I watched this I was hoping their was a no shirt rule?

Cyborg is a monster.

[quote]John S. wrote:
Is it wrong that when I watched this I was hoping their was a no shirt rule?

Cyborg is a monster.[/quote]

A hot monster, yes?

[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
John S. wrote:
Is it wrong that when I watched this I was hoping their was a no shirt rule?

Cyborg is a monster.

A hot monster, yes?[/quote]

Yes

You guys think Cyborg is hot? Wow. Not to get into anyones biz, but she is a masculine woman. I guess some guys are into that.
As I said, Cyborg has been injected with male hormones. If you think she hasn’t, you are naive. Listen to her voice and close your eyes, you’ll swear you are listening to a gay man speaking.
But like I said, some guys are into that.

[quote]40&Big wrote:
You guys think Cyborg is hot? Wow. Not to get into anyones biz, but she is a masculine woman. I guess some guys are into that.
As I said, Cyborg has been injected with male hormones. If you think she hasn’t, you are naive. Listen to her voice and close your eyes, you’ll swear you are listening to a gay man speaking.
But like I said, some guys are into that.[/quote]

Jealous? probably. I think you need some testosterone yourself, my Oprah-watching friend.

[quote]BlacknGold wrote:
Your gentics are only going to take you so far and she is a woman to boot (At least I think she is). She has very little bodyfat yet she still weighed in at 143-144 after a cut in weight. I have seen 5’8 thin models (with very little body fat) weigh in at 110-120. She put on 30+ pounds of muscle without juice? I could care less who won and it was my opinion of her before the fight. We will never know absolutely because they will never test her. There will be a very small faction people who go to the grave saying Sammy Sosa didn’t juice either and we will never know absolutely unless he is on the “list”. It will be the same thing with Cyborg. Some people refuse to allow common sense to dictate their thinking. [/quote]

CSAC has probably the strictest testing in mma… Sammy Sosa has failed drug tests before…

Along with your complete lack of the facts you sound like someone that makes lots of excuses.

Cyborg reminds me of a much stronger Lucia Rijker. Rijker would have done to Christy Martin what Cyborg did to Carano, if they had fought back in the day.

“CSAC has probably the strictest testing in mma”
-Yes, there is a Santa Claus too. Money conquers any regs/testing. Ask MLB and the NFL.

Execuses for what? Hell if I knew injecting steroids would earn me millions I would do it too. I don’t blame it/her. She probably could have won without them anyway. But lets never talk about the big fat elephant in the room mmmk?

Gad demmit!

EDIT

I guess it’s solved, when you put similarly sized man and a woman, the man wins…

[quote]BlacknGold wrote:
Money conquers any regs/testing.
[/quote]

Really? Interesting…especially since MMA fighters and their camps don’t have near the money as NFL/MLB athletes. Are you saying fight promotions pay off the CSAC??