[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
BlacknGold wrote: Money conquers any regs/testing.
Really? Interesting…especially since MMA fighters and their camps don’t have near the money as NFL/MLB athletes. Are you saying fight promotions pay off the CSAC??[/quote]
Exactly, thats why Josh Barnett failed right? Did the UFC pay CSAC to fail Barnett to tank Affliction? They probaly also paid the CSAC to give positives on both Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca in a title fight right? That really helps.
I’m Sure if Strikeforce was paying off the CSAC Nick Diaz wouldn’t have cared about pissing dirty and would have showed up. Or does the CSAC not take payment for faking positives for THC?
Well the state of California is broke. Every city in the state is broke. I am sure million(s) went into promoting and setting up this fight by the fight orginization and sponsors. You have a fight orginization trying to compete with giants. I see a big house of cards that would have come tumbling down if this fight was canceled.
Big deal right? That is how the world works. Good for the fight orginization and good for Cyborg. May she be a champion for a long long time.
[quote]Kalle wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
BlacknGold wrote: Money conquers any regs/testing.
Really? Interesting…especially since MMA fighters and their camps don’t have near the money as NFL/MLB athletes. Are you saying fight promotions pay off the CSAC??
Exactly, thats why Josh Barnett failed right? Did the UFC pay CSAC to fail Barnett to tank Affliction? They probaly also paid the CSAC to give positives on both Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca in a title fight right? That really helps.
I’m Sure if Strikeforce was paying off the CSAC Nick Diaz wouldn’t have cared about pissing dirty and would have showed up. Or does the CSAC not take payment for faking positives for THC?
Your doing a horrible job at trolling. [/quote]
Did you throw fits like this when you were told there was no Easter Bunny too? Sorry to question your uber sense of reality pumpkin…keep flipping tires and you too can grow 35 pounds of muscle without drugs just like he-she.
[quote]BlacknGold wrote:
Well the state of California is broke. Every city in the state is broke. I am sure million(s) went into promoting and setting up this fight by the fight orginization and sponsors. You have a fight orginization trying to compete with giants. I see a big house of cards that would have come tumbling down if this fight was canceled.
Big deal right? That is how the world works. Good for the fight orginization and good for Cyborg. May she be a champion for a long long time. [/quote]
So by your hypothetical opinion(not facts),Strikeforce could afford to pay of the CSAC for sake of Cyborg/Carano…yet M-1/Affliction couldn’t for the sake of Fedor/Barnett. Remember what you stated about common sense and thinking?
Hey guys, does anyone feel Gina was pretty nonchalant about this whole thing? I mean, she was pretty lethargic at the weigh-in, looking at the pics and the videos…
[quote]matko5 wrote:
Hey guys, does anyone feel Gina was pretty nonchalant about this whole thing? I mean, she was pretty lethargic at the weigh-in, looking at the pics and the videos…[/quote]
That’s how female fighters prepare for a fight, homie. The lack ze testosterone, and that results in not looking mean. For the record, Carano is a tubby tomboy.
[quote]archiewhittaker wrote:
matko5 wrote:
Hey guys, does anyone feel Gina was pretty nonchalant about this whole thing? I mean, she was pretty lethargic at the weigh-in, looking at the pics and the videos…
That’s how female fighters prepare for a fight, homie. The lack ze testosterone, and that results in not looking mean. For the record, Carano is a tubby tomboy.[/quote]
Come on guys, Cyborg is 5’8". That’s above average height for a woman. 140 is NOT an unrealistic weight.
5’ 7" and 137 lbs contest weight, 145 off-season. She also seems to have a smaller lower body (small hips) like cyborg. I’m sure you can find other examples.
Funny thing is, yesterday afternoon I was glancing through some of the pics of the two fighters. The photo-shoots for Carano and Cyborg reminded me of Rocky III. Remember when Rocky is training for publicity and Clubber Lang is training to win? Guess who
Carano:
Cyborg:
Eye of the tiger…
Yeah, at a bar, I’d be making a bee-line towards Gina (not cyborg). However, side by side there was a clear discrepency in LBM between the two.
[quote]Bondslave wrote:
jd_dd wrote:
Well, at least they have Fedor now…even if they don’t have any legit opponents for him.
Oh please tell us, where exactly can we find all these legit opponents for Fedor then? The UFC? If so, which UFC HW’s would you consider legit for Fedor? Inquiring minds want to know.
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Just off the top of my head, I think Randy, Lesnar, and Carwin would both be more interesting match-ups than Werdum and Rodgers.
Werdum has nothing to challenge Fedor and Rodgers (while a beast) is way too inexperienced. It takes two things to beat Fedor: hand speed and brains. Unfortunately, Arlovski only has one of those two.
While Randy doesn’t have the hand speed to challenge Fedor, he’s the best when it comes to game planning and it would be a fun fight to watch no matter what the outcome. Lesnar is such a ridiculous combination of strength and quickness that he’s an interesting match-up for anyone, especially Fedor. Carwin is another huge HW who has proven time and again that he can hang in there, take a serious ass whipping, and still find a way to turn the tables. So, while I do believe Fedor would likely win, I’d put money on Carwin giving him a good fight and having a legit chance (though a small one) at the upset.
I really wish everyone would keep the fucking man jokes, and steroid comments to themselves, and try talking about the actual fight. Or does nobody have anything constructive to say, so they’re just throwing asshole comments out there about because their soft looking fantasy girl got beat? They are fighters, why are their looks even being discussed? Do you guys get hard-ons comparing the male fighters looks too?
As for the steroid issue, unlike Carano, who cut weight to make 145, Cyborg I remember seeing her say that she didn’t really need to cut much, if any. I’m friends with a woman who is about the same exact build as Cyborg, who has simply been athletic as hell all her life, and also happens to put on muscle very easily for a woman. She looked muscular as hell back when we were 14 even, I remember being in lunch with her, and her putting guys to shame at arm wrestling even at 16ish when most guys have a clear strength advantage over the girls. Until anyone sees that Cyborg failed a drug test, you really should shut up about the issue, as you’re doing nothing but talking out your ass.
[quote]BlacknGold wrote:
Kalle wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
BlacknGold wrote: Money conquers any regs/testing.
Really? Interesting…especially since MMA fighters and their camps don’t have near the money as NFL/MLB athletes. Are you saying fight promotions pay off the CSAC??
Exactly, thats why Josh Barnett failed right? Did the UFC pay CSAC to fail Barnett to tank Affliction? They probaly also paid the CSAC to give positives on both Sean Sherk and Hermes Franca in a title fight right? That really helps.
I’m Sure if Strikeforce was paying off the CSAC Nick Diaz wouldn’t have cared about pissing dirty and would have showed up. Or does the CSAC not take payment for faking positives for THC?
Your doing a horrible job at trolling.
Did you throw fits like this when you were told there was no Easter Bunny too? Sorry to question your uber sense of reality pumpkin…keep flipping tires and you too can grow 35 pounds of muscle without drugs just like he-she.
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Your amazing man, there are plenty of good arguments you could make about the issue but you keep bringing up the most illogical one possible.
And thanks for the advice but I accomplished that a few years ago that’s what happens when you work hard and don’t make excuses.
[quote]counterfeitsoda wrote:
I really wish everyone would keep the fucking man jokes, and steroid comments to themselves, and try talking about the actual fight. Or does nobody have anything constructive to say, so they’re just throwing asshole comments out there about because their soft looking fantasy girl got beat? They are fighters, why are their looks even being discussed? Do you guys get hard-ons comparing the male fighters looks too?
As for the steroid issue, unlike Carano, who cut weight to make 145, Cyborg I remember seeing her say that she didn’t really need to cut much, if any. I’m friends with a woman who is about the same exact build as Cyborg, who has simply been athletic as hell all her life, and also happens to put on muscle very easily for a woman. She looked muscular as hell back when we were 14 even, I remember being in lunch with her, and her putting guys to shame at arm wrestling even at 16ish when most guys have a clear strength advantage over the girls. Until anyone sees that Cyborg failed a drug test, [i]you really should shut up about the issue, as you’re doing nothing but talking out your ass.[/i][/quote]
Get off your high fucking horse. People were interested in this fight not because of the perceived skill levels involved, rather the fact that Gina is good looking. A similar male audience watches, say, women’s gymnastics for that same reason. We’ve never really been into discussing the particulars of the bout itself. Plus I don’t know what we could really say about the fight…Gina should’ve tried harder to not get bullied into the cage?
Cyborg didn’t make weight in her previous fight where she fought a much, much smaller opponent. So maybe you should take your own advice.
Then why bother watching the fight at all if the only interest in it was Ginas good looks? If I wanted to look at good looking women, I can easily find plenty of better looking women by walking out my front door. Gina is attractive, but she’s not anywhere near worth drooling over like 3/4th her fans seem to be doing. Personally, It’s disappointing that the only time women athletes will actually get any recognition for their hard work, is when they’re good looking.
As far as talking about the fight, personally, I wonder why Gina basically gave up the mount on Cyborg. Even with next to no ground game, she would have been much better off trying to GnP from there than standing back up like she did.
Also:
What are you talking about? Someone said she was on AAS because of how big and lean she was, saying how she had to cut weight to make 145. I don’t know about other fights, nor do I care, but for this fight, she stated that she didn’t really need to cut much weight.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Bondslave wrote:
Carano needs to find the same “doctor” as Santos to match the overwhelming strength advantage. Not taking anything away from Santos, she is a badass, im just sayin’.
There was definitely a strength advantage. Not going argue the root of that. I’ve never seen Gina thrown around like that…ever. BUT she was gassing more so than Cyborg. Maybe actually making weight is too rough on her…especially when facing someone like Cyborg. She was worn out…going another round would have been horrible.
I also noticed she was on her heels a lot. She respected Cyborg’s power…and rightfully so. She ate some hard shots. Gina is going to look like Stay-Puff marshallow man in a bit. That ref saved her from anal rape as well.[/quote]
She never should have gotten up when she had santos in full mount. She might not have won regardless but it was a mistake
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
i think there will eventually be some sort of “substance scandal” involving cyborg at some point. [/quote]
I think so to, that last pic where she is flexing, she looks very hard, dense and dry, maybe she taking winstrol, or masteron stacked with primobolan. nice quality gains, without the suspicion
[quote]cromwell2007 wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
Bondslave wrote:
Carano needs to find the same “doctor” as Santos to match the overwhelming strength advantage. Not taking anything away from Santos, she is a badass, im just sayin’.
There was definitely a strength advantage. Not going argue the root of that. I’ve never seen Gina thrown around like that…ever. BUT she was gassing more so than Cyborg. Maybe actually making weight is too rough on her…especially when facing someone like Cyborg. She was worn out…going another round would have been horrible.
I also noticed she was on her heels a lot. She respected Cyborg’s power…and rightfully so. She ate some hard shots. Gina is going to look like Stay-Puff marshallow man in a bit. That ref saved her from anal rape as well.
She never should have gotten up when she had santos in full mount. She might not have won regardless but it was a mistake[/quote]
Yeah I agree. Gina is hot don’t get me wrong. Yet I enjoy talking about the fight a little more then “Oh man she’s so hot dude, like I want to bang her bro” shit.
She did fuck up bad when she got up from the mount. Looked like she was really intimidated by her ground game (which she should be, Santons dominated everytime they got down). Yet like I said in another thread, Santos clearly was more hungry, trained harder and Gina became really overwhelmed, experiencing it for the first time like that.
