I think this has already been addressed, but maybe this will accelerate your attempts to eat more: I am a female just shy of 100 pounds and I eat more than you on my “bulk”.
Just stuff it down, lol. My new motto is “whatever it takes”. If you really want the mass you will be uncomfortable and it’s just something you have to learn to accept. I understand though, I bitch about eating all the time. Putting on mass is hard stuff.
[quote]k8thegr8 wrote:
I think this has already been addressed, but maybe this will accelerate your attempts to eat more: I am a female just shy of 100 pounds and I eat more than you on my “bulk”.
Just stuff it down, lol. My new motto is “whatever it takes”. If you really want the mass you will be uncomfortable and it’s just something you have to learn to accept. I understand though, I bitch about eating all the time. Putting on mass is hard stuff.[/quote]
Women are figuring this out faster than the guys on this forum.
I’m not sure if I should be happy or disappointed.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
k8thegr8 wrote:
I think this has already been addressed, but maybe this will accelerate your attempts to eat more: I am a female just shy of 100 pounds and I eat more than you on my “bulk”.
Just stuff it down, lol. My new motto is “whatever it takes”. If you really want the mass you will be uncomfortable and it’s just something you have to learn to accept. I understand though, I bitch about eating all the time. Putting on mass is hard stuff.
Women are figuring this out faster than the guys on this forum.
I’m not sure if I should be happy or disappointed.[/quote]
Professor X,
Your posts are very educational. I’m learning a lot. Thank you!
[quote]Kaban wrote:
I’m a Hardgainer
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Let’s wait till you get 2 years of consistent eating and hardcore training before you categorize yourself as anything other than a newbie here.
16 days? I’m sorry if you expected to be 225 and ripped now, this is a long term project. Weigh yourself once a month, throw the calipers away and trust in the mirror. At 6 foot you will need to be about 50 lbs heavier to look like a weight lifter. If you wanted to put on 50 lbs of just fat, how long do you think it would take? 9 months? A year? And that’s bodyfat, muscle is much harder to come by so don’t expect overnight success. Expect consistent long term success, make adjustments food wise if you hit sticking points in bodyweight. Every meal during the day is another chance to start growing again so don’t miss meals for anything. Stuck out and you can’t go home to whip up a meal? Double cheeseburger time from a burger joint. Nobody wants to hear excuses, they want results.
You want to gain size, and are losing bodyfat… this means you are simply NOT EATING ENOUGH. You are eating like a 130 lb woman, eat like a guy who is 200 lbs and you will become 200 lbs.
Take your protein up to 250-275 grams, mostly from food(red meat is key).
Your first 3 meals of the day slam down as many complex carbs as you can after protein. Rice, oatmeal, potato, sweet potato etc
Your last 3 add some natural peanut butter, olive oil, mixed nuts etc after your protein
Stop counting calories like an OCD weight watchers program girl.
Cut out any cardio you may be doing or limit it to twice a week 30 minutes low intensity
If after a month you don’t see progress, eat more food.
Train all out in the gym, if you need to be reminded of this more than once this probably isn’t the hobby for you.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Kaban wrote:
I’m a Hardgainer, I’ve been following what I thought would be a working program but I dont see much results >8(
So any help/advice would help, I’m getting pretty depressed and unmotivated here…been stuck on 155lb for months
I’m 24, 6’1" 155lb 6.6% BF
6.6%? What method was that accurate?[/quote]
A lot of skinfolds will give you readings like that :shrug:
last time I had mine checked according to the sum of my skinfolds (6 site), it listed me at 15.9% :shrug:
[quote]k8thegr8 wrote:
I think this has already been addressed, but maybe this will accelerate your attempts to eat more: I am a female just shy of 100 pounds and I eat more than you on my “bulk”.
Just stuff it down, lol. My new motto is “whatever it takes”. If you really want the mass you will be uncomfortable and it’s just something you have to learn to accept. I understand though, I bitch about eating all the time. Putting on mass is hard stuff.[/quote]
I think I would listen to her. Just force the food down. I mean for breakfast I have 6 eggs (4 egg whites, 2 whole eggs) 8 ounces of 93% lean red meat, 1 cup of uncooked oatmeal(Dont worry I cook it after I measure it) and a protein shake with 50 grams of protein. That right there is almost 1000 calories for breakfast which is almost half your entire daily diet. I was skinny guy once as well at 6’2 its not easy to pack on pounds.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Kaban wrote:
I’m a Hardgainer, I’ve been following what I thought would be a working program but I dont see much results >8(
So any help/advice would help, I’m getting pretty depressed and unmotivated here…been stuck on 155lb for months
I’m 24, 6’1" 155lb 6.6% BF
6.6%? What method was that accurate?
A lot of skinfolds will give you readings like that :shrug:
last time I had mine checked according to the sum of my skinfolds (6 site), it listed me at 15.9% :shrug:
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Yes, but regardless of what reading you got, I hope it is common knowledge that these are NOT specific infallible readings. There is a margin of error with all of them that can exceed 3-5%. That makes anyone claiming a body fat percentage down to the tenth of a point appear to be pretty uninformed.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Kaban wrote:
I’m a Hardgainer, I’ve been following what I thought would be a working program but I dont see much results >8(
So any help/advice would help, I’m getting pretty depressed and unmotivated here…been stuck on 155lb for months
I’m 24, 6’1" 155lb 6.6% BF
6.6%? What method was that accurate?
A lot of skinfolds will give you readings like that :shrug:
last time I had mine checked according to the sum of my skinfolds (6 site), it listed me at 15.9% :shrug:
Yes, but regardless of what reading you got, I hope it is common knowledge that these are NOT specific infallible readings. There is a margin of error with all of them that can exceed 3-5%. That makes anyone claiming a body fat percentage down to the tenth of a point appear to be pretty uninformed.
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Well, yeah. The only 100% accurate way is an autopsy. I’d hope we wouldn’t have to just round all #s off because people think that we think it’s 100% accurate 
[quote]k8thegr8 wrote:
<<< I am a female just shy of 100 pounds and I eat more than you on my “bulk”. >>>[/quote]
This is great
I think massive eating is a bit too “massive”. I’m 188 and I’m eating 4000+ a day and gaining a few pounds a week, so my reference is roughly BW * 22.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
jehovasfitness wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Kaban wrote:
I’m a Hardgainer, I’ve been following what I thought would be a working program but I dont see much results >8(
So any help/advice would help, I’m getting pretty depressed and unmotivated here…been stuck on 155lb for months
I’m 24, 6’1" 155lb 6.6% BF
6.6%? What method was that accurate?
A lot of skinfolds will give you readings like that :shrug:
last time I had mine checked according to the sum of my skinfolds (6 site), it listed me at 15.9% :shrug:
Yes, but regardless of what reading you got, I hope it is common knowledge that these are NOT specific infallible readings. There is a margin of error with all of them that can exceed 3-5%. That makes anyone claiming a body fat percentage down to the tenth of a point appear to be pretty uninformed.
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Amen to that, the last skinfold test I had done just out of curiousity said I was 5%…and I definitely am not 5%. I think around 9-11% would be an accurate reading, ive got some visible fat around my lower abdominal and lower back region.
Read Scott M’s post. Read it and memorize it and save it to your computer and print it out and put it by your bed and in your kitchen and in your gym bag.
People are making things way to complicated.
Just EAT! Eat till your uncomfortable, then eat some more. Don’t worry about eating too much right now. According to your BF numbers you gave us, you are shredded as fuck. So no worries. Steak, potatoes, milk. Do it.
Alright sounds good, I’m taking up my food intake
The reason why im counting calories in the 1st place is to make sure I eat enough, apparantly i was only eating 2144g for those 16days…I thought it was 2600
So Im getting bread, pnut butter, and bananas, gona eat (additional to my meals) 6pnut butter sandwiches + like 4banannas a day, that should take me over 3000 then we’ll see if i gain anything after couple weeks
[quote]Kaban wrote:
I’m a hardgaineer
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People should really read through this site before posting. You placed a target on your back before you even got to the 2nd sentence. Good luck on your endeavor to get huge though.
[quote]Kaban wrote:
Alright sounds good, I’m taking up my food intake
The reason why im counting calories in the 1st place is to make sure I eat enough, apparantly i was only eating 2144g for those 16days…I thought it was 2600
So Im getting bread, pnut butter, and bananas, gona eat (additional to my meals) 6pnut butter sandwiches + like 4banannas a day, that should take me over 3000 then we’ll see if i gain anything after couple weeks
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You need to change your entire training world view buddy, seriously. The difference between 2144 calories and 2600 for a guy with your stats is meaningless which brings me to what may be your biggest problem. All this ultra precise measuring and metering may seem dedicated, but it’s a ball n chain on your brain man, I mean it. Like Scott said. Divorce all that shit and marry your mirror.
alright, today hopefully was my last cig
When I started I was 3 inches taller than you AND 5 lbs lighter.
3500-5000 a day did the trick, I got carried away and started eating around 7000 so I got a bit more fat than was necessary but I still made significant muscular gains.
Point is if you don’t want to be 155lbs don’t eat like you’re 155lbs.
I’ve read the Anthony Ellis book/program, it’s fairly decent for someone who’s just starting out: focusing on big compound lifts, good explanation of techniques, etc.
Two problems though:
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He emphasizes a very strict diet, targeting a “perfect” set of meals in an attempt to simultaneously gain mass AND virtually zero fat. There’s way too much focus here; including a food scale?
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It misses the big picture and doesn’t really give insight past the first couple of months. The recommended routine will work for anyone, but eventually you’ll adapt (and he leaves you in the dark about taking things further).
Not surprised you lost motivation: virtually all beginners will “get stuck” after three months of doing the same thing. You need to switch things up when gains stop (and no, not a couple bad sessions, I’m talking about a couple weeks of zero progress).
EAT. EAT. EAT. EAT. EAT. I can’t emphasize this enough: YOU NEED TO EAT MORE. With your proportions, gaining weight will probably make you look “healthy/normal”.
Take the lifting technique advice from Anthony (does a pretty decent job of explaining things), and toss everything else to the wind. Search around on T-Nation and you’ll find nutrition advice that works…