First to answer all the questions/replies:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
But a meal for me is a freaking pound of steak. That’s damn near 1,000cals alone for that one meal. [/quote]
yeah no shit you eat that much look at you and look at me, its fucking common sense that you would eat a fuckload more than me.
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Depending on what flavor the protein is, mixing a banana with some VCO or natty PB in the shake will be pretty tasty.
Ohh, and don’t worry about eating fats or carbs before bed. Calories eaten then doesn’t magically turn to fat because you eat it then. Some research even suggests carbs later in the day is BETTER for lean gains.
Regardless, just add 300-500 to your daily intake. That’s all you can do. I weigh roughly 185-190 and I’m eating 3400 calories a day, to add weight SLOWLY. Some people have to eat more then that. When I stop making gains, I’ll probably add more calories.
Just try it for a few weeks man.[/quote]
yeah dont worry i didnt miss it, thats exactly what im going to do, great advice btw, i’ll explain in more detail at the end of this post.
[quote]GrindOverMatter wrote:
if you only want lean muscle gain you’re gonna need a whole hell of a lot of patience- in my mind when it comes to muscle gain you have a few choices
-Bulk up real fast with a lot of calories–add a lot of muscle and fat
-Gain lean mass slowly—dont gain as much fat- gain muscle slower
with the major bulk up method youll have to eventually lose the fat and if you want to keep all the muscle and strength you gained in this process, you are in for a long tedious dieting experience
with the gain lean mass approach you have to be patient- youll add muscle slower but wont get fat in the process…
to be honest both methods lead to same end result in the end-
if you choose the slower method you need more patience- and to get lean youre still going to have to diet eventually ;). I like everyones suggestion to add 300-500 calories and see where that takes you–make sure you hit the same calorie level every day- day in day out–no missing meals,ever… [/quote]
great advice grind, but yeah im gonna go for the lean gains approach for now as its summer over here in Australia, then i’ll probably bulk at about 4500 cals per day in winter
[quote]Smallfry69 wrote:
Don’t take this the wrong way, but you eat just a bit more than my 10 year old daughter. She usually has a half dozen egg whites with 2-3 yokes with a huge bowl of celery and a protein shake mixed with 2 cups of fruit for breakfast. She alternates the eggs with chicken/turkey breasts every other day. Exception is the weekend where she’ll eat a half dozen large pancakes, or I’ll do up a huge scrambled eggs, bacon, hashbrowns and toast breakfast with a protein shake to wash it all down with. [/quote]
sorry no offense but thats complete bullshit, define “a bit more” no 10 year old can eat that much and keep it down, and if she really can then shes gonna be a beast when she grows up, but yeah im going to increase calories and probably keep this as a cutting diet.
[quote]Aragorn wrote:
And am I the only one here who looks at that routine as asinine?? He’s doing 9 EXERCISES ON LEG DAY. there is no way he can put out the effort to do quality work on the first 6 exercises of that day, or the 8 exercises on back day. And even if he COULD get 100% productivity out of that amount of volume, there’s no way he can hope to EAT enough to grow with that volume…and he’s worried about fat gain?!?
Seriously am I the only one in the twilight zone here? [/quote]
ahaha you can come and train with me and you’ll see that i can easily do that many exercises with high intensity, including drop sets and forced reps, i’ve always trained with high volume and seen awesome gains its just how i am, if i train with much less volume than that i feel nothing and gain nothing, ive tried it. But yes i am going to eat more.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
Three of those exercises are calf raises done at the end. Which regardless of how I ever did them never wiped me out during a routine. It’s a pretty standard routine for legs, with 2 major compound exercises(Squat and leg press) and 2 or 3 accessories (leg curls, extensions, stiff legged deadlifts). The sl deads can be done pretty intense but at 12-15 reps looks like he’s doing those as an accessory too. Let’s not go overboard with the propaganda.
Otherwise I agree he may need to add some intensity to his exercises. [/quote]
thankyou for actually realising that its not too much volume, but yeah i only go heavier on the sl deads (and for less reps) when i dont have access to a lying ham curl as i feel like that puts more mass on my hammies for me.
Anyway to sum up i’ll be adding about 500-1000 more calories every day, and just watch my body and see if thats too many (if i gain to much fat too quick) and will just lower accordingly, i’ll also keep the exact same workout regime for at least 4 weeks to sus out strength gains etc, im also going to log all exercise reps sets and weight just to monitor it closely. Thankyou to everyone for all the advice, its given me plenty of insight.