Can Any of You Do What Ronnie Does?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
BPC wrote:
ZEB wrote:
BPC wrote:
As far as fighting goes, size is one of MANY factors not the sole or even determining factor unless you depend on your size for fighting? What about: technique, speed, agility, coordination, power, etc??

Relative to fighting, I think you are missing a very important point: When all other things are equal (or even close) the big strong guy wins!

So why doesn’t Big Ronnie fight in the Pride FC or UFC? Because he’d get his fucking ass kicked.

No you have entered troll status.[/quote]

No I’m not a troll. When someone starts cussing and shouting at me electronically (which is stupid to begin with) then I respond accordingly.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
BPC wrote:

Actually, I partially agree w/you but you fail to take into account genetics which is a HUGE factor. I train for strength in the weightroom as well but also do MANY other things. Being one dimensional bores me.

What makes you think because I train for size that I am one dimensional? I write and record music. I ride a motorcycle. I have probably done more community service than most of the people ever consider. One dimensional does not describe me. However, if we are talking about bodybuilding, being a pussy and not eating enough and not lifting heavy and then using “being functional” as an excuse is pure bullshit. If you are small and weak, don’t try to make people believe your “relative strength” is so awesome. It isn’t.

Personally, if I had spent years in the gym and didn’t look like it, I would think I sucked.

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This is so childish. TC’s latest article says it all. There’s room on here for all sorts of people.

I just get sick of your constant “stop eating like a pussy” sermon to everybody. I guarantee you that I DO eat a lot of food (for hunger/energy/taste and not weight gain).

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The reason for the “Stop eating like a pussy” sermon is because its ALWAYS a reply to this kind of post:

“Hey All!!!11!! I have been training for like 4 years now. I am 5’10” and weight 146 pounds with a six pack!!1! No matter what I do or take (the protein! and NO-Xplode) I can’t seem to put on any muscle, any suggestions? I do curls in the squat rack and tricep extensions, any ideas? I MUST be a hard gainer! Plz Help!

               Yours Truly,
               Hard-Gainer Mike"

Following that we realize the guy eats 2000 cals a day like the back of his cereal box suggests.

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Oh…And those were all bumper plates he was using… If you really count it up, every thing he does is always 35 lbs. Even the leg press.

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[quote]rrjc5488 wrote:
Sweet pants… Make sure to turn the volume up!

Notice the caption too, “huge man bench presses 200 lb dumbbells”

Huge man. Huh.[/quote]

yeah, loved the caption…LOL!

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BPC, you have unnecessarily and annoyingly turned a thread about Ronnie Coleman (and his impressive achievements) into an attack on a particular approach to bodybuilding, using Professor X as your fallguy. Give it a rest. Or at least take it somewhere else-start a new thread maybe.

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People like BPC have caused me to COMPLETELY understand the prof’s avatar…

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BPC wrote:
harris447 wrote:
BPC wrote:
snipeout wrote:
Sounds to me like BPC is the prototypical " I wanna be lean and have a six pack" guy. I will use the argument I used to use when I was in the Army. What good is being able to run 2 miles in 11 minutes if you don’t have enough weight in your ass to fight when you get there. Unless of course you spend your life running, AWAY. As for ProfX, he has posted pictures.

This debate is fruitless really. I made my smart ass comment to be funny really. It’s hilarious at how defensive many of you get when someone pokes fun of their precious bodybuilding hero.

First of all, being lean is not a bad thing the last time I checked especially when you consider this Nation’s obesity rates and the fact that a lot of pro bodybuilders lack general health. Next, I’m a military guy myself so you are preaching to the choir. As far as fighting goes, size is one of MANY factors not the sole or even determining factor unless you depend on your size for fighting? What about: technique, speed, agility, coordination, power, etc??

As far as Prof X’s pics-I could care less how he looks. He constantly brags about how much more he eats than everybody else so I’m sure he’s big. I just don’t understand personally, big for what purpose, just for being big? One person put it well, Prof X is obsessed about “getting as big as possible” and that’s cool and his choice. Me, I don’t care anything about gaining mass or being a bodybuilder.

If you don’t care about gaining mass or being a bodybuilder, then…

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING HERE?

It’s called research asshole.

What are you, a scientist?

I didn’t know that I had to fulfill certain prerequisites before I read material on this site.

Not to read. Go ahead and read all you want. But when you start posting utter tripe about how people aren’t “functional”, then there are prerequisites.

Interesting rules you are making up now.

So Charles Poliquin, John Davies, etc etc never write articles regarding performance enhancement (power, speed, range of motion, etc)? Interesting.

They do. And I do not go into their threads and start screaming, “Fuck speed! Get some size on ya there, matchstick!” Whereas you…

WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU HERE W/YOUR GOOFY LOOKIN’ AVATAR?

First off, that’s Nick fucking Fury. Anything but goofy. Second, EVERYONE on here has a goofy looking avatar.

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BPC

Do us all a favor, shut the fuck up and go cry elsewhere. Profx might be harsh on what he says sometimes but it’s only because the majority of the time he is right. So like I said dude, go post elsewhere.

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Well Prof X, looks like you got a lot of back here on this site. Good for you.
I never have minded going against the grain. I know when I’ve lost an argument and it looks like you’ve won.

I wasn’t trying to attack Ronnie Coleman or you Prof X but I was: poking fun of Ronnie (damn me to hell-loosen up people geez. Secondly, I get tired of constantly hearing about how much you eat. Who cares?

Finally, I’m not one these “functional weirdos” but I am a guy who likes to train athletically. Yes, I do the basics just like everybody else (squats, deads, pullups, various presses, etc) and for good reason. Getting stronger is important to me just like everybody else on this site but it’s only one aspect of my training.

I applaud Ronnie’s strength but damn get off of his nuts.

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[quote]BPC wrote:
Me, I don’t care anything about gaining mass or being a bodybuilder. [/quote]

All of that crap to get to this point? How about FUCK OFF!?

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BPC,

Don’t worry you’re not the only one to get sick of the prof going on and on and on and on, always with negative undertones, overtones, no fuckin’ tone (like him) (relax prof j/k, just a personal snipe like you make at other people).

Even if the prof is right most of the time does he need to be so sanctimonious with it? Some people, esp. the newbies, may be more inclined to listen to him if his advice was not only constructive, which it generally is, but wasn’t so personal. Instead he comes across as very stern, they take umbridge and slag him, then all hell breaks loose.

Still if someone wants a “rant off” you can always find him online, 16hours a day!

Wheels

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If you look you can find pic’s of prfessor x, and he is big enough…not sure how old his last avitar was but he was big in that pic too.

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[quote]sic wrote:
StevenF wrote:
Ya know, some people consider that to be quite gross. I, am one of those people.

I thought it was fucking great. I’m in awe.[/quote]

I forgot to quote, yes the 200lb dumbbells was sweet, but the posing video someone else posted is gross. Sorry about that.

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[quote]steelwheels wrote:
Even if the prof is right most of the time does he need to be so sanctimonious with it? Some people, esp. the newbies, may be more inclined to listen to him if his advice was not only constructive, which it generally is, but wasn’t so personal. Instead he comes across as very stern, they take umbridge and slag him, then all hell breaks loose.
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Maybe, just maybe, he makes hardass comments about working hard and eating alot (which, itself is hard work.) because it will actually knock it into the damn kids head. I’m pretty sure if these scrawny ass kids came on here and posted their diets (which is shit, 95% of the time) and everyone said “Well you know, you should be eating a little more.”

Yeah, well thats nice. Let me tell you, I’m 17, I’m a kid- kids are lazy, they wouldn’t put much effort into eating if all they got was “you should be eting more.” Now, enter prof X: “oh, you’re on that concentration camp diet, right?”…“You cant gain weight without a whole lotta fuckin food!”… “Proteinpowdas dog eats more for breakfast than you do all day.”

Then the kid might realize, well, I’m not eating nearly enough, I should go eat more. Kids here are shocked when they hear “Eat 3500 fuckin calories a day!” They didnt know it was even possible to eat that many calories in a day. Shit, 3500 calories isnt even that much for alot of the guys on here.

Either way, Prof is who he is and if you dont like it, fuck off. And that goes for me, and the rest of the guys on here except for your butt buddy BPC.

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Still if someone wants a “rant off” you can always find him online, 16hours a day!

Wheels[/quote]

I dont want to speak for Prof, but this has been stated in a few threads before. He posts alot but is not just sitting in front of him computer all day. He’s an MD, has his own computer, in his own office, and is able to leave the site up and check in every so often, therefore posting.

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oh, by the way the person next to Ronnie in the beginning of Cost of Redemption next to Brian Dobson is Gus Carter. It’s funny how huge he is in person but looks small next to Ronnie Coleman. But then again everyone looks small next to Coleman, heck when i was at the Ronnie Coleman workout weekend, the biggest participant, a 360 pound correctional officer who was about 6"5 looked small next to Ronnie.

p.s. in case you were wondering why that is, have you ever seen someone who is lean and only 180 pounds in your gym but appears to be 230, well picture someone who is 295 but appears about 370 pounds and you get an idea of how Ronnie looks like in person.

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[quote]kellyc wrote:

No. You are right that lockout on top gives rest but the stretch/shortening cycle exists whatever range is used. Touching the bar or dumbell on bottom can help but it has nothing to do with the stretch shortening cycle.[/quote]

USEFUL DISCOURSE COMING THROUGH…

So maybe it’s not the SSC per se at the bottom; maybe it’s just an actual physical bounce. Wait, no. I don’t see how the SSC could play a role at any other part of the range of motion than that where a stretch occurs–the bottom. That’s why pauses are sometimes used…at the bottom. I’ve never heard of the SSC being negated, or utilized either, by 1-and-a-half reps or any other non-full ROM. I think at least that we can all agree that what Coleman is doing is actually more difficult than full reps.

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Did anyone see his squats yet?

I would think my legs would snap if I tried to hold that much weight on my back (not that I could get that off the rack in the first place).

Anyone know how much weight that is?

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[quote]SWR-1222D wrote:
Did anyone see his squats yet?

I would think my legs would snap if I tried to hold that much weight on my back (not that I could get that off the rack in the first place).

Anyone know how much weight that is?[/quote]

That pic I posted in the Favorite bodybuilder thread listed one squat at 800lbs.