Butt and Legs Too Big

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, on going and getting specific information I learn I was wrong.

Now, on what is “acceptable,” that would be hard to say as differing people will have differing tolerance and opinions.

I had had the view that a good proportion was waist size of about 0.85 to 0.9 times the hip size. I had the impression, without having done the calculation, that the OP’s value was well outside this. I failed to actually calculate it, instead using the shortcut that I am fairly borderline in this regard, but even so when my hip size is an inch less than this (which is when overweight by at least 20 lb), my waist is up to 36" or more, so it seemed his condition was worse than mine. However, I should not have relied on a shortcut. I normally don’t. There is no excuse in this case, just a moment of stupidity.

In fact, actually calculating his value gives 82%, using the middle value of what he gave for hip size.

That obviously is not far out of the range I had in mind.

Going further, how valid was the range I had in mind?

It turns out that the Grecian Ideal – these being proportions of heroic figures in sculpture, thus certainly considered aesthetic at the time by the artists and generally considered aesthetic today, though not the same as in high level bb’ing, to be sure – has the ideal waist/hip ratio at… 82%.

I was wrong, and apologize. Thank you for following up on it, thus causing me to look at it as closely as I should have in the first place.[/quote]

Iâ??m marking this event, saving it as a jpeg, and will post it again if I ever disagree with you.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Trust me, I work damn hard on the upper body.

There is such a thing as having much less than ideal bone structure. I have the rib cage and clavicles structure of a 140 lb geek, but the hip structure of a 200 lb running back. Strictly referring to the size of the bones.

With hard work, I’ve gone from the utterly appalling situation of having a 29" waist with over 40" hips in not-lean condition (about 150 lb), which is actually in the feminine range for hip/waist ratio and was utterly disastrous, to 33"/38.5" when in Bowflex-ad condition (and also reasonable proportion when fatter.)

You bring up the good point also of relation to chest size.

I didn’t measure my chest before starting training at age 30. However, I know that size small shirts fit reasonably loosely. As a guess, 35" then. So that was a horrific chest/hip ratio, say 0.88 or worse. I have improved it to 1.16, which is not terrible. Well it would be terrible for a competitive bb’er, but not terrible in general.

Your statement that it is easy for everyone is not correct. The worse the structural imbalances in the first place, the harder to (largely) overcome them.[/quote]

No, I meant easy as in very rarely is this truly a problem of insane proportions. It is mostly because guys are trying to fit into pants that are too small simply because their waist measures one thing. It should be well accepted by now that if you lift weights, even if you have a 34" waist, eventually you may need to buy pants a couple of sizes bigger or more to compensate for leg mass.

[quote]Professor X wrote:

No, I meant easy as in very rarely is this truly a problem of insane proportions. It is mostly because guys are trying to fit into pants that are too small simply because their waist measures one thing. It should be well accepted by now that if you lift weights, even if you have a 34" waist, eventually you may need to buy pants a couple of sizes bigger or more to compensate for leg mass. [/quote]

That, I agree with completely.

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Bill Roberts wrote:
Well, on going and getting specific information I learn I was wrong.

Now, on what is “acceptable,” that would be hard to say as differing people will have differing tolerance and opinions.

I had had the view that a good proportion was waist size of about 0.85 to 0.9 times the hip size. I had the impression, without having done the calculation, that the OP’s value was well outside this. I failed to actually calculate it, instead using the shortcut that I am fairly borderline in this regard, but even so when my hip size is an inch less than this (which is when overweight by at least 20 lb), my waist is up to 36" or more, so it seemed his condition was worse than mine. However, I should not have relied on a shortcut. I normally don’t. There is no excuse in this case, just a moment of stupidity.

In fact, actually calculating his value gives 82%, using the middle value of what he gave for hip size.

That obviously is not far out of the range I had in mind.

Going further, how valid was the range I had in mind?

It turns out that the Grecian Ideal – these being proportions of heroic figures in sculpture, thus certainly considered aesthetic at the time by the artists and generally considered aesthetic today, though not the same as in high level bb’ing, to be sure – has the ideal waist/hip ratio at… 82%.

I was wrong, and apologize. Thank you for following up on it, thus causing me to look at it as closely as I should have in the first place.

Iâ??m marking this event, saving it as a jpeg, and will post it again if I ever disagree with you.[/quote]

Hardly a need there: anyone who has ready any great number of my posts has run into other examples of where I have readily acknowledged error on my part. I try to keep the rate low but have never reached zero, and never have claimed to.

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Bamma wrote:

HEY!..I wear UA shorts also.

But you’re right…my closet isn’t exactly pimped out. I did just buy a suit though, but most of the time, I am in shorts, scrubs or sweat pants.

UA?

don’t worry, ima send him some nike dryfit UA shorts so he can rep the crimson tide as well.[/quote]

See, that’s what I was hoping he meant :slight_smile:


Just take a tip from Rex Kwan Do – you’ll be all set.

I’m not giving up squats and deads, that’s it. My butt is growing a wee bit big for my liking but it’s the lack of upper body development that puts it off. Also, I don’t care how big my butt is if I can jump 40 inches one day…

Butt and legs too big? Blasphemy!

If you can’t find clothes that fit well straight off the rack, you’re doing it right.

dude, girls dig big butts like we dig theirs, duhhh!! I built up a big(er) butt, and my girl can’t take her eyes off it. and if a size 36 is too big for you, your ass aint too big dude. just work on building up a bigger upper body, but your legs and butt cant ever be tooo big…can they?

I like big butts and I cannot lie…

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Under Armour. I should be a spokesman for the fucking company.[/quote]

I was in their fist 2 commercials (“we must protect this house” BS) so I got a TON of their stuff for free…Thank God for that!

Besides, I have now decided that I am letting myself go, this (EDIT: Pants not fitting) wont be a problem anymore…

I’m switching to Mumu’s like Homer Simpson.

Dude, I’m 4 inches shorter than you and have those same measurements and have no issues buying pants. Start shopping at stores not targeted towards emo’s, gay dudes, and teenagers and you will find that it’s not terribly difficult to get pants to fit. You will have to buy the loose and relaxed cuts instead of the tapered or straight cuts, but its not really a big deal once you know where to look.

Another thing I have a problem with in this thread is the absurd idea that you would want to somehow stop training your glutes. Properly functioning (and strong) glutes are the basis from which the rest of the body draws its strength and if your glutes are dysfunctional (read: weak) then you are opening yourself up to a slew of potential injuries.

[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
Trust me, I work damn hard on the upper body.

There is such a thing as having much less than ideal bone structure. I have the rib cage and clavicles structure of a 140 lb geek, but the hip structure of a 200 lb running back. Strictly referring to the size of the bones.

With hard work, I’ve gone from the utterly appalling situation of having a 29" waist with over 40" hips in not-lean condition (about 150 lb), which is actually in the feminine range for hip/waist ratio and was utterly disastrous, to 33"/38.5" when in Bowflex-ad condition (and also reasonable proportion when fatter.)

You bring up the good point also of relation to chest size.

I didn’t measure my chest before starting training at age 30. However, I know that size small shirts fit reasonably loosely. As a guess, 35" then. So that was a horrific chest/hip ratio, say 0.88 or worse. I have improved it to 1.16, which is not terrible. Well it would be terrible for a competitive bb’er, but not terrible in general.

The worse the structural imbalances in the first place, the harder to (largely) overcome them.

Now in my case, yes, it was not avoiding squats or deadlifts that did it, but rather the waist being thickened considerably by, I presume, deadlifts, and upper body training improving the upper body to where now it is in proportion to the hips. But I can readily relate to another person that could just naturally have an ass-heavy build and their solution may not be entirely that of relying solely on upper body improvement.[/quote]

I have a similar problem as yours and the OP’s, but to a lesser degree. Aside from increasing upper-body mass, what other solutions are there to shrink the ass. I dont mind big legs, but I hate the fact that my ass sticks out so far.

This is an exaggerated view of me from the side (the hump is my ass)

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[quote]Stronghold wrote:
Properly functioning (and strong) glutes are the basis from which the rest of the body draws its strength and if your glutes are dysfunctional (read: weak) then you are opening yourself up to a slew of potential injuries.[/quote]

They also make you really really good at high rep pull thrus. I am a fan of those.

Some shit in this thread just doesn’t add up, but w/e buy a belt and relaxed cut jeans.

[quote]buckeye girl wrote:
Stronghold wrote:
Properly functioning (and strong) glutes are the basis from which the rest of the body draws its strength and if your glutes are dysfunctional (read: weak) then you are opening yourself up to a slew of potential injuries.

They also make you really really good at high rep pull thrus. I am a fan of those.[/quote]

You are a cheeky one…nudge, nudge, wink, wink.


I thought everyone that posted on this site wears these? Didn’t you guys get the memo about the T-Nation uniform?

[quote]Alpha wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Under Armour. I should be a spokesman for the fucking company.

I was in their fist 2 commercials (“we must protect this house” BS) so I got a TON of their stuff for free…Thank God for that!

.[/quote]

no shit? the one where they are clapping in the circle in the gym?

[quote]BenceJones wrote:
Also finding pants that fit is really getting to be a bother…
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this is bullshit. With the amount of obese people around don’t tell me you can’t find a pant that fit.

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
Alpha wrote:
Professor X wrote:

Under Armour. I should be a spokesman for the fucking company.

I was in their fist 2 commercials (“we must protect this house” BS) so I got a TON of their stuff for free…Thank God for that!

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no shit? the one where they are clapping in the circle in the gym?[/quote]

Yep, I was one of the D-bags in the circle…and I was in the second one shot at University of Maryland