Workout:
Superset 1
Seated Lat raise
3x8 20lbs
Seated DB press:
1x6 65lbs
1x6 70lbs
1x3 70lbs
Superset 2
Decline DB tri ext
3x8 25s
Closegrip bench
2x6 155lbs
1x8 155lbs
Superset 3
Standing calf machine shrug
2x8 315lbs
1x10 315lbs
BB Power shrug
2x6 315lbs
1x6 335lbs
notes: felt real strong today! Wish I started higher with my closegrip and Power shrugs. Very quick workout.
lol are they that bad everyone?
Quads look decent.
I’d say your chest is your weakest body part. Back could use extra attention as well.
You have a narrow clavicle, which combined with the weak chest makes you look…well, narrow.
I would never put you close to 250 based on your photos. Some of that is just being a tall bastard. I’m 6’2.5" with a fairly narrow clavicle myself, so I know how hard it is for you to look at all thick.
I haven’t noticed any deadlifts or rack pull variations in your routine. In my book they’re a must for the taller lifter to put on size and gain the strength necessary to keep growing. They should help throw some meat on your back.
Incline dumbbell presses and flies will help broaden your chest as well. I’d hit these areas very hard and often if I were you. Your physique lacks balance, and to correct that your not only going to have to gain weight, you’re going to have to gain it in the right places in the right proportions.
[quote]arthursaxon wrote:
Quads look decent.
I’d say your chest is your weakest body part. Back could use extra attention as well.
You have a narrow clavicle, which combined with the weak chest makes you look…well, narrow.
I would never put you close to 250 based on your photos. Some of that is just being a tall bastard. I’m 6’2.5" with a fairly narrow clavicle myself, so I know how hard it is for you to look at all thick.
I haven’t noticed any deadlifts or rack pull variations in your routine. In my book they’re a must for the taller lifter to put on size and gain the strength necessary to keep growing. They should help throw some meat on your back.
Incline dumbbell presses and flies will help broaden your chest as well. I’d hit these areas very hard and often if I were you. Your physique lacks balance, and to correct that your not only going to have to gain weight, you’re going to have to gain it in the right places in the right proportions.[/quote]
Thanks man thats what I needed! Really appreciate it.
Had a little different approach to today’s workout:
Deadlift:
5x5 205,225,245,275,315
one leg squats:
1x10 BW
1x8 10s
1x6 10s
leg curls:
1x8 120lbs
1x8 180lbs
1x6 200lbs
seated leg curls:
2x6 180lbs
4x6 225lbs
Notes: took arts advice and added deadlifts to my workout. I stopped at 315 because my lower back was getting sore and I was starting to compromise my form a tiny bit on my last rep. I figure with some time my back won’t fatigue so quickly. Happy with my gains and will start working on my weak points now that someone has pointed them out to me. Thanks! More suggestions are welcome.
Bull
This is an interesting thread, and it’s cool to see your before and after pics, (you are very kind to share this experience openly with everyone) but something doesn’t look right. It almost seems like all you’ve gained is fat. (other than the lower thigh area) I don’t mean to offend you at all- honestly, it don’t. You were thin, but somewhat muscular before. (you were like your average young thin guy) and IMO now you look worse.
I am recently on HRT at age 40, and I seemed to get a much better result than you are getting on less testosterone and without even trying to get big in the first place (the reason I started HRT was for the sake of my libido) but over the first 8 weeks it gave me some other benefits too.
I guess the point I’m getting at is this: either the medication you recieved is fake, or your diet and exercise habits are way off. My guess is it has to be one of those 3 things. JMO
Al
ps> I know it’s been less than 4 weeks, so maybe that has something to do with it too- but I’m not sure if that could explain the huge weight gain without just as much muscle.
[quote]tawney wrote:
This is an interesting thread, and it’s cool to see your before and after pics, (you are very kind to share this experience openly with everyone) but something doesn’t look right. It almost seems like all you’ve gained is fat. (other than the lower thigh area) I don’t mean to offend you at all- honestly, it don’t. You were thin, but somewhat muscular before. (you were like your average young thin guy) and IMO now you look worse.
I am recently on HRT at age 40, and I seemed to get a much better result than you are getting on less testosterone and without even trying to get big in the first place (the reason I started HRT was for the sake of my libido) but over the first 8 weeks it gave me some other benefits too.
I guess the point I’m getting at is this: either the medication you recieved is fake, or your diet and exercise habits are way off. My guess is it has to be one of those 3 things. JMO
Al
ps> I know it’s been less than 4 weeks, so maybe that has something to do with it too- but I’m not sure if that could explain the huge weight gain without just as much muscle.
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Thanks for the input Tawney! I felt the same way when I took these pictures but after some further review I feel my chest/traps/quads/calves have defiantly gotten bigger. I think I put on some fat which is inevitable, but yes as you mentioned more than I would have liked. I have added some light cardio in my training to combat that. I do feel my diet was way off and I have tweaked it the last few days. Also like people have mentioned before my training could have been off. I tried the pre-fatigue and I have received some strength gains, but have decided to switch over to training with compound movements mostly. I believe this will alter my results for the better. We will see 
Bull
Actually it’s Al… LOL (Tawney’s husband)
She’s the one in the avatar.
I don’t know how much diet and training plan effect the growth potential, but from what I can tell, it’s a LOT. My own experience with hrt proved to be eccelent for body improvment, but I ate right all the way through the 8 weeks and worked out daily. I’m thinking that only compound movements from here on out and a strict high cal diet will prove to be a HUGE fixer for you.
Played a little basketball tonight. It was a first in a while and my shot was way off, but I had fun. When I start playing I just can’t stop. I played for like an hour! Alright well i’m off to bed!
Bull
today’s workout:
PullUps
1x10 assisted with 100lbs
1x8 assisted with 90lbs
1x6 assisted with 70lbs
1x3 bw
BB Rows
1x10 135lbs
1x8 155lbs
1x6 185lbs
Chest supported rows:
2x8 135lbs
1x4 180lbs
Seated row medium grip:
1x8 180lbs
2x6 200lbs
bentover rear delts:
2x8 25s
10 mins low intensity cardio
Notes: shitty workout today. I think it might be due to not ipod since I broke my headphones. I think I’m going to go get a new pair tonight and hopefully that will pick up the intensity when I lift on Sunday. Found out today that pull-ups and back were my weakness like art had mentioned, this just means I have to push myself that much harder. Until next time peace.
Bull
[quote]BullsOnParade wrote:
today’s workout:
PullUps
1x10 assisted with 100lbs
1x8 assisted with 90lbs
1x6 assisted with 70lbs
1x3 bw
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push that shit bro. PUSH it seriuously BUST YOUR ASS on these you wont regret it strap a plate up and get whatever you can
[quote]Game_over wrote:
push that shit bro. PUSH it seriuously BUST YOUR ASS on these you wont regret it strap a plate up and get whatever you can[/quote]
Thanks man I needed the encouragement! I’ll be posting some better numbers next week hopefully!
Bull
I’m liking these last two workouts much more than your previous supersets. It was making me ill to watch you do those pump style workouts :). Heavy weight will add a lot of density over time. Westside Rules!..Just a thought for switching up your training.
But it looks like you’ve got everything in order so far. Good exercise order, good selection (now I don’t feel like banging my head against a wall.). Push hard. I would work your shoulders/back/chest the hardest. Narrow clavicles will keep you from looking broad if you don’t put a serious priority on it. Backs always look better when they’re bigger. And Chest is weak. Good luck.
Thanks for the encouragement Aragorn I have also enjoyed the direction I have taken my workouts in.
Todays Workout:
Bench press:
1x5 225lbs
1x5 245lbs
2x3 255lbs
1x2 255lbs
Incline DB:
1x6 85s
1x3 85s
1x7 70s
DB Flys:
1x8 45lbs
1x7 45lbs
1x6 45lbs
BB Curls: Very Slow Eccentric movement
1x10 60lbs
1x8 70lbs
1x4 80lbs
DB 21s:
3x21 20s
30 mins low intensity cardio
Notes: Blasted my chest today! Felt great! Great intensity throughout my workout felt very strong.
Bull
Have a question if anyone would like to take a crack at it.
I have been holding at a solid 243 lbs for the past week. Now I feel as if I might be burning more calories than I am intaking. I am not trying to lose weight, but have been feeling nausea when trying to eat as much as I can. Believe me, I have been eating(about 5-6 solid meals a day) and with all the cardio I have added. My question was is it the AAS that is keeping me at the same weight and making sure I am never in a catabolic state.
I figure that it is and was wondering if not gaining any weight in my 3rd week of a cycle is bad and being in a calorie deficit was also bad. I understand that I want to get the most out of my cycle and I am trying to eat the most that I can just after my first set of pics I am kind of hesitant. Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Bull
Todays workout:
Standing Military Press:
3x5 155lbs
1x3 155lbs
1x2 155lbs
DB Arnold Press:
1x8 50s
1x6 50s
1x5 50s
DB shrugs
1x8 100s
2x7 100s
Close Grip Bench:
3x5 185lbs
1x4 185lbs
1x3 185lbs
Skull Crushers:
1x5 70lbs
2x6 60lbs
30 mins low intensity cardio
Notes: I changed my rest time in between sets to one minute. This helped me increase the intensity and also helped get a greater bump. My shoulders felt real pumped after military press and only got better as my workout went on. I feel like I really hit them hard today and they were defiantly fatigued at the end of the workout.
Okay well I am going to start and post my diet in hopes that someone will comment on it seeing how this thread is pretty much dead and also because of the way my last pictures came out.
Today so far:
Meal #1:
1 cup egg white omelet with veggies
1 cup egg beaters(i’m assuming) omelet with veggies
2 cup strawberries
1 banana
1 cup cherrios
2 cups whole milk
1 cup cottage cheese (low fat i’m assuming)
3 slices wheat bread
During workout drink:
4 scoops of cytogainer which consists of
Calories: 580
Fat: 5g
Carbs: 79g
Protein: 54g
Post workout drink:
4 scoops of cytogainer which consists of
Calories: 580
Fat: 5g
Carbs: 79g
Protein: 54g
Meal # 2 (hour after workout):
1 cup oatmeal
2 cups whole milk
2 scoops whey protein
2 tsp peanut butter
I will post the rest as I eat throughout the day…
Hey Brother, great log man, keep it up. Maybe not everyones replying everyday, but it still makes for a great read! As far as not gaining in the 3rd week, I think its all a matter of what your going for. But i believe you were going for a lean bulk (think i read that? idk) then it may be time to up the calories just a bit… Or you can always get some of Worlds Fat Bombs or Randizos God-Food. Heres a link:
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1972762&pageNo=3
Absolutely ridiculous i know! But a guaranteed plateau buster. I would personally only ever consider eating this after a workout. But then again i’m a former fat kid so… to each his own.
[quote]Phyzeekk wrote:
Hey Brother, great log man, keep it up. Maybe not everyones replying everyday, but it still makes for a great read! As far as not gaining in the 3rd week, I think its all a matter of what your going for. But i believe you were going for a lean bulk (think i read that? idk) then it may be time to up the calories just a bit… Or you can always get some of Worlds Fat Bombs or Randizos God-Food. Heres a link:
http://www.T-Nation.com/tmagnum/readTopic.do?id=1972762&pageNo=3
Absolutely ridiculous i know! But a guaranteed plateau buster. I would personally only ever consider eating this after a workout. But then again i’m a former fat kid so… to each his own. [/quote]
Fat Bomb, eh?
Buddy, don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house. I could routinely down 2-3 of those a day with proper cardio and be leaner than the vast majority of people you know. That’s called dedication to cardio, not making excuses for my diet.
World