THIS kid on the other hand (3 plate military under 20 years old) :
could push the overall envelope a lot further and be the next Leeman 
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]dt79 wrote:
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
^^^ That is an excellent cautionary tale.
People hear about guys like George Leeman and think thats the way to do it. I know I’ve been tempted to go that route. But when it comes down to it, I’m not George Leeman and neither are you.[/quote]
While this is a fine example that tangible results and common sense should dictate one’s actions over the course of time, what on earth does it have to do with George Leeman?[/quote]
George Leeman successfully executed the most epic dreamer bulk in recorded gains history. His diet and methods should not be replicated by any sane human under any circumstances.[/quote]
Lol i agree it was epic. Seriously epic.
But George Leeman knowingly became a fat ass in pursuit of his strength goals. And he apparantly had results to show for it along the way, which is why he kept going.
The guy above seems to equate this to what Artem did.
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Leeman ate his way huge, accepted a ton of fat gain in exchange for strength and quality mass, and then successfully dieted down. Most people who attempt that approach end up looking the same year after year. Leeman did not. [/quote]
Do you think that if Leeman did not see his strength constantly going up with his weight gain, he would have gained another 100lbs just for the hell of it?
[quote]jeremielemauvais wrote:
THIS kid on the other hand (3 plate military under 20 years old) :
could push the overall envelope a lot further and be the next Leeman [/quote]
Haha I guess I am one of those dreamer bulkers lol not quite as extreme as George though! I’m 294lbs at 5"10 but I couldnt imagine being another 100lbs heavier! Weight gain does absolute wonders for gaining strength but I did start training properly and gaining weight at 15 at around 170lbs and I think the huge bulk will only really work well at a young age as it will accompany the normal growth of the skeleton and how much you can push it is massively dependent on frame size aswell.
Not sure where all this anger is coming from. Leeman is obviously awesome and has achieved great things through hard work and following his own compass. My off-handed comment was just to point out that not many people can get away with the kind of extreme approach he took.
[quote]bellasgnuk wrote:
In 40days i went from 51 to 65kg(143lbs), it’s not much but for me it was a great victory.
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Dude, that’s almost a 30% gain in total body mass in a little more than a month. Nobody would consider that “not much!” You seem to be overestimating how long it takes to bulk up.
Sometimes when I compare myself to a month or two ago, I fear that I might be one of those “looks the same year after year” kind of guys… But when I look at photos from a year or two ago, I can’t believe how much I’ve changed!
It’s hard to get the right balance. You gotta find a way to go full-throttle, yet also be patient. If you just started, you’ll enjoy some sweet newbie gains… But don’t base your expectations on late-night infomercials that tell you that an effective workout program will Captain Americanize you in a month!
My $0.02.
[quote]TrevorLPT wrote:
Not sure where all this anger is coming from. Leeman is obviously awesome and has achieved great things through hard work and following his own compass. My off-handed comment was just to point out that not many people can get away with the kind of extreme approach he took. [/quote]
No one is angry. There are no George Leeman fanboys here (at least none that i know of).
It’s just that your understanding of his “approach” is similar to that of the OP’s.
I <3 bulking stories.
Brick head, tried to send you contact info but it got deleted. Any ideas for how to connect?
Lifting and fitness is a lifelong marathon, not a sprint. Adapt your lifestyle to something sustainable while also being able to meet your fitness goals and you’ll have much better success.
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Lifting and fitness is a lifelong marathon, not a sprint. Adapt your lifestyle to something sustainable while also being able to meet your fitness goals and you’ll have much better success. [/quote]
That should be a sticky.
I’d add, if you don’t enjoy the marathon or journey you won’t get far.
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Lifting and fitness is a lifelong marathon, not a sprint. Adapt your lifestyle to something sustainable while also being able to meet your fitness goals and you’ll have much better success. [/quote]
That should be a sticky.
I’d add, if you don’t enjoy the marathon or journey you won’t get far. [/quote]
I’m doomed.
[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
[quote]TheKraken wrote:
[quote]Aggv wrote:
Lifting and fitness is a lifelong marathon, not a sprint. Adapt your lifestyle to something sustainable while also being able to meet your fitness goals and you’ll have much better success. [/quote]
That should be a sticky.
I’d add, if you don’t enjoy the marathon or journey you won’t get far. [/quote]
I’m doomed.
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Man, I hate training, it takes so much time, money and it hurts =(. But I love the results so I guess I’ll still be doing this till my body can’t handle it any longer.
There is also nutrition that exists outside of the whole bulking/cutting thing…
I’m just impressed someone sitting at 112 could put on that much weight that quickly…