Bulking How Its Done

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They don’t seem to have beef with me either…and white flash calls me fat and weak constantly and none of you speak out against it.
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WHITEFLASH, now you stop that. It’s NAUGHTY.

Don’t make Mama use the spoon.[/quote]

I loled. My mom used to jokingly threaten me with a spoon even though I was almost a foot bigger than her and outweighed her by 50lbs. [/quote]

My mom is 5’1 and 140 lbs. I am terrified of her.
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It’s all about the attitude. Some people have and some don’t. Funny thing is it wasn’t only me when my mom got truly pissed just about everyone was terrified of here. Basically she looked and acted like she would tear your head off and use it as a soccer ball and enjoy it. She could get mean

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I just eat when I’m hungry

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]bpick86 wrote:
So let me see if I get this, you eat enough to reach a certain weight, lets say 300, regardless of fat gains, then when that weight it reached you maintain it to give your body a chance to adapt to it. So you are eating enough to maintain that 300 and the idea is your body is recomping that 300 lbs and your LBM is going up, while your body fat is going down while you stay at 300? Then when you feel like showing off a little of that muscle gained you diet down to a leaner body fat %?[/quote]

No…first off, anyone setting sites on 300lbs had better be already big as fuck and bigger than most from normal training.

I hit 300lbs because I was a big muscular guy at over 285lbs…which I have posted pictures for.

I was that weight in the military so no, I was not some fat blob who couldn’t move.

300lbs was a stretch for me and pushing it…but I really just wanted to see if I could hit that weight and not be obese to see if I could manage a set point.

If I was never 240lbs…and hit 240lbs…but am carrying a little more body fat…I don’t hop on a super diet. I keep training as if for size but limit my food intake. I may even drop some weight, but the overall goal is to eventually hit that same weight with MORE muscle and LESS fat as my own body adapts to the weight and environment.[/quote]

When I stopped playing ball I was 240ish or so and I then got into going for strength and powerlifting just for fun to give myself goals and something to compete against.

The heavier I got the stronger I got, so I really pushed it and was sitting at 275-280 after about 15 months. I was eating big, but still clean. Then I did a semi dirty bulk, which for my body type by most standards really wasn’t all that dirty. But assistance absolutely packs everything on me, fat, water, muscle, etc.

Now I have learned now to run a daily fairly high dose of an estrogen inhibitor, which helps my lean gains and keeps the fat down while assisted. My body absorbs the compounds so readily it was also producing tons of estrogen to combat it. That was another huge breakthrough for me physique wise.

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They don’t seem to have beef with me either…and white flash calls me fat and weak constantly and none of you speak out against it.
[/quote]

WHITEFLASH, now you stop that. It’s NAUGHTY.

Don’t make Mama use the spoon.[/quote]

I loled. My mom used to jokingly threaten me with a spoon even though I was almost a foot bigger than her and outweighed her by 50lbs. [/quote]

My mom is 5’1 and 140 lbs. I am terrified of her.
[/quote]

It’s all about the attitude. Some people have and some don’t. Funny thing is it wasn’t only me when my mom got truly pissed just about everyone was terrified of here. Basically she looked and acted like she would tear your head off and use it as a soccer ball and enjoy it. She could get mean[/quote]

Exactly and my mom is mostly Cherokee. Scary shit.

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They don’t seem to have beef with me either…and white flash calls me fat and weak constantly and none of you speak out against it.
[/quote]

WHITEFLASH, now you stop that. It’s NAUGHTY.

Don’t make Mama use the spoon.[/quote]

I loled. My mom used to jokingly threaten me with a spoon even though I was almost a foot bigger than her and outweighed her by 50lbs. [/quote]

My mom is 5’1 and 140 lbs. I am terrified of her.
[/quote]

It’s all about the attitude. Some people have and some don’t. Funny thing is it wasn’t only me when my mom got truly pissed just about everyone was terrified of here. Basically she looked and acted like she would tear your head off and use it as a soccer ball and enjoy it. She could get mean[/quote]

Exactly and my mom is mostly Cherokee. Scary shit.
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“Exotic” moms are typically crazy

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[quote]Bauber wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
They don’t seem to have beef with me either…and white flash calls me fat and weak constantly and none of you speak out against it.
[/quote]

WHITEFLASH, now you stop that. It’s NAUGHTY.

Don’t make Mama use the spoon.[/quote]

I loled. My mom used to jokingly threaten me with a spoon even though I was almost a foot bigger than her and outweighed her by 50lbs. [/quote]

My mom is 5’1 and 140 lbs. I am terrified of her.
[/quote]

When I was about seven and misbehaving my Mother took the wooden spoon off the wall and broke it over my bottom. She then withheld my allowance that week to buy herself a new spoon. There were three boys, six years apart and my Dad traveled. There was no ‘waiting until Dad got home’ in our house. One hell of a woman…at fifty I’m still discovering things she taught me.

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I think you can see the stretch marks on my waist just in the last one if you look hard enough. I go through like a giant thing of lotion every week. My skin is dry and irritable as hell. (Atopic Dermatitis?) If I dont use lotion, my hands will crack.

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Ive done a ton of trap work and Ive grown a bit since the pic on the right (stronger now, and filled out a bit in some areas), but you get the idea. I am still finding new bumps here and there haha.

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I got frustrated so I said i would gain up to 190 and then cut. I didnt care if my gains were 50% fat. I just wanted to be bigger, and to be stronger.

That ^^^^^ is 99% of my program. I ran a basic split for 3 months to gain some basic strength (to get rid of the shakes when I would bench and stuff like that, learn to squat, etc), then switched to this and have been on it for at least a year.

I have eaten whatever I want, whenever I want. Whole pizzas, steak rancheros, pizza rolls, burgers, tons of cold cuts, mountain dew as a preworkout (not that diet shit either), chocolate milk by the gallons. I went through a weight gainer phase for breakfast (1100 cals 300 carbs before 8 AM haha). I figured as long as I lifted I could do whatever because I literally lift until I get sick (that has to burn some calories). I knew I was going to eat like “shit”, so I did a ton of volume to “earn my calories.” I wasn’t joking about the McDonalds month either. Again, I was frustrated and just wanted to be bigger/stronger. I was 160ish without abs for God’s sake. If I wasn’t going to have abs, I might as well be bigger.

Im not huge, or super strong, but if I do believe that if you don’t have red eyes at the end of a set of squats or deadlifts, you didn’t do it right. I also went through a phase where I trained to failure.

I have emailed Mr. Wendler, Paul Carter, and Mr. Henriques for tips here and there, but my program is really all in that article.

I would go to steak n’ shake and count the meals/shakes I would eat like reps (I got up to 4 plates and 2 ultimate banana shakes at one point haha). I would just try to get another rep next time.

PR on the bar, PR on the scale, PR at wing night, sleep, repeat.

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Also, there have been a ton of nights where I didnt sleep a lot or eat because of school/studying. I had to take more than a few weeks off. I really want to get a string of not missing for like 8 months and see where I get to. Ive never been able to do that, something always gets in the way. I wake up at 730 AM and usually lift at 930PM, then eat and go to sleep. Nothing all that special was done, and I didnt take any supplements other than when I had those weight gainers for breakfast.

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[quote]trivium wrote:
I am still finding new bumps here and there haha. [/quote]
You might want to have that looked at

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I hate where this thread has gone. There was a brief hiatus from the drama and then right back to it. I do agree: Why is it necessary to try and have everyone take sides? Why is anyone even still arguing about the bulk/lean gain topic? Why does everyone keep trying to use Bauber to make their argument for them?

Why does X always have to post pictures of himself in every thread as if people haven’t already seen them all? Just some questions that I wish I had the answers to. For the record, I hope X never gets his claws into Bauber. It would be unfortunate if we all lost another great poster to the likes of X. I know this will get me a bunch of heat from some, but I’m just giving my opinion.

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[quote]Smashingweights wrote:

[quote]trivium wrote:
I am still finding new bumps here and there haha. [/quote]
You might want to have that looked at[/quote]

Maybe I am turning into deadpool?

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I do have one question though. Of all the guys on T-Nation, which group has gotten bigger/gained more muscle? Was it the constantly lean guys, or those that got a little sloppy here and there then cut?

I read some of the stickies, and one that stuck out was the one that was about Dave.

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How do you plan on quantifying this?

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[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
How do you plan on quantifying this?[/quote]

LMFAO.

This whole “us vs them” thing has just become comical.

Look, contest lean, 10%, 15%, 20%, whatthefuckever%.

When a dude walks into the room, you either say “That’s a big motherfucker” or, you don’t.

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[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
How do you plan on quantifying this?[/quote]

LMFAO.

This whole “us vs them” thing has just become comical.

Look, contest lean, 10%, 15%, 20%, whatthefuckever%.

When a dude walks into the room, you either say “That’s a big motherfucker” or, you don’t.[/quote]

Yeah I wasn’t shooting for the whole “us vs them” thing.

Example: Sloh

He made a ton of progress. He got a little puffy then cut up.