Building Biceps?

I’m having trouble building my biceps. When I lift I have trouble feeling the lift in the biceps like I do in other muscles.

Does anyone know ways to help activate the bicep (similar to glute activation exercises)?

My biceps don’t seem to tire like other muscles. I’m not sure if this is because I’m not activating them enough or fiber type or what but has anyone else had trouble like this? I’ve tried increasing weight to a point where my form fails and using a variety of exercises (both iso and compound).

Also when I curl I tend to feel it in my shoulders (side and back) as well. Does this seem like bad form?

Thanks for any advice.

I actually always start my bicep routines with an isolation exercise, typically either non-supported concentration curls (never go heavier than 30’s, or 35’s on a good day), or incline DB curls (which I stay at about 25 or 30 lbs). I do these really slowly, which gets me some stares from the 150 lb dude who’s usually “curling” 45’s with his entire body in front of the mirror. Biceps are a small muscle group, and to be honest, most of my arm development probably came from the heavy back training I do.

-S

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Try doing 10x10 curls with an Olympic barbell loaded with your 10RM, and tell me you don’t feel it.

Drop the load & isolate them. This will allow you to gain some feel for the muscle and a little mind muscle connection will go a long way in the comming weeks.

Stay away from heavy loads to start, this will only make the problem worse. Since you don’t feel the muscle working now, adding weight will only make your body overcompensate some more and you may even feel it less. Save the weight for later. You need to establish some CONTROL first.

Use an exercise like a whimpy one-arm isolation curl and drop set it. Grab 3 or 4 light dumbbells. You want the weight so light that your deltoid doesn’t engage. Your back muscles should be relaxed and you can even limit the forarm activity by using a hook grip by turning your knuckles down.

Try this with a light dumbbell

1- Elevate the arm in a seated position like a preacher curl or sitting in a chair with your lifting arm’s elbow tucked inside your resting arm layed across your knees. (you will get a harder contraction by elvating the arm… test this by curling one arm standing straight up with your arms by your sides then as soon as you fully squeeze lift the arm so that arm is now in a flexing position like you were doing a biceps pose in the mirror)

2- Turn the wrist down and use a hook grip to deactivate the forearm a little, you will still get a pump in the forearm but it will require less gripping.

3- Do not swing the weight, strict form and slow reps.

4- Do not use any other muscles to assist the movement, you’re isolating for a purpose.

5- Squeeze very hard on all the contractions.

6- Never let the muscle rest, keep the tension on the bicep throughout the movement.

7- If you’re on a preacher bench or doing isolation curls seated with your elbow resting on your leg… then place your resting hand on the bicep and feel the muscle contracting.

8- Try to visualize the muscle contracting, picture the actual fibers shortening and legnthening. This is important for a mind muscle connection anf “feeling” the muscle work.

Using this technique can build some size, actually you can build decent size but this is mainly to find some control of the muscle and establishing the feel for it as well. will pay off in your heavy lifts later. Instead of heavy barbell curling with your back and shoulders and more assistance from your forearms, you’ll actually be using your biceps this time.

Try something like this.

3 light dumbbells
3-4 sets every other day for a few weeks
3 continuous dropsets, curl all three dumbbells in every set for somewhere between 6-12 reps with each dumbbell
Just do lots of reps with light dumbbells, let the muscle burn, if fact make it burn, you can go to failure on these little muscles don’t worry about it(its not a deadlift)

Whenever you have developed an obvious feel and even a mind-connection with this muscle, then scrap these little flyweights and curl some real weight. Grab some heavy barbells. Nothing you can do more than 8 reps on even with a swinging cheating motion. You will feel the difference in where the pull is comming from this time. When doing Biceps Barbell Curls, make sure your biceps are doing most of the work. Use this exercise as the meat & potatoes of your arm work. Heavy curls are better than the light ones for size and I would rely on the heavier load, but you need to learn how to use your muscles first. This is a method you can use for that purpose.

merlin

Try supersets, such as incline DB curls into standing hammer curls.

[quote]merlin wrote:
2- Turn the wrist down and use a hook grip to deactivate the forearm a little, you will still get a pump in the forearm but it will require less gripping.
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This is one of the biggest errors we all have been guilty of. We white knuckle the bar and end up with a forearm workout and not a biceps workout.

Use a relaxed grip with straps if you have to, and also turn your palm up and over with the pinky finger higher than your thumb at the top of the curls (feels weird at first)

ALSO:
DO NOT USE A “Ez bar” ONLY STRAIGHT BARS AND DUMMBELLS!

SOLID

someone, I think Gironda, recommended doing dumbbell curls and near the top of the motion, letting the wrist fall into extension.

What is your height and weight? If you are under 2.75lb per inch of height at 10-12% bodyfat, then no amount of curling is going to fix your problem. YOU WILL NOT GET BIG ARMS AT A LOW BODYWEIGHT.

I’m 180lb at 5’10" with 15" arms, so my arms are small and I want to get them bigger, but that won’t happen primarily as a result of curls: it’s the biggest exercises that will get you growing all over. You need about 10-15lb muscle over your whole body to gain 1" on your arms. Are curls going to do that? No.

[quote]wsk wrote:
What is your height and weight? If you are under 2.75lb per inch of height at 10-12% bodyfat, then no amount of curling is going to fix your problem. YOU WILL NOT GET BIG ARMS AT A LOW BODYWEIGHT.

I’m 180lb at 5’10" with 15" arms, so my arms are small and I want to get them bigger, but that won’t happen primarily as a result of curls: it’s the biggest exercises that will get you growing all over. You need about 10-15lb muscle over your whole body to gain 1" on your arms. Are curls going to do that? No.[/quote]

This is true as well, increasing your overall bodyweight will help assist all your muscles in growing larger. But this doesn’t exclude you from developing arms. You can gain size both ways. But your BICEPS will be lacking if you can never feel them working no matter how big you get.

Have you ever seen guys walking around in your gym with huge guns, big sleeve cannons …and then support them on a pair of chop sticks for legs? I have.

In fact thats all I even see anymore. this is a result of guys walking into the gym and grabbing the curl bars before anything else, then they do this over and over again and forget to do some squats the entire week.

There are many methods you can use. The most important will be progressive overload. When you hit sticking points, you will have to increase the weight. There is really no way around this. If you want to get bigger, you will have to get stronger. guys plateau all the time, mainly as a reult of not giving their body a reason to overcompensate for the heavier loads and grow bigger.

You can do this with a light load as well, just cause more stress. This is why I said to do these every other day. This accumulated stress will piss the muscle off a little and it will retaliate by growing larger for the hell you put it through. Next time it will be prepaired.

It does this over and over again until it beats you. This is called the plateau. Your muscle always wins. Your muscles have an infinite capacity to adapt. you usually don’t. you will quit pushing yourself before your muscle does. You have to beat your muscles if you want them to grow. The answer. you guessed it. Progressive overload.

Heavier loads are the easiest way to do this. Or lighter loads causing more stress. Again, get a feel for the muscles you want to be using in the heavier loads or your body will overcompensate and use the muscles it wants to, to move the weight. It always does.

The body finds the easiest way to do a lift. You have to change that and apply stress where you want it. Faster movements equal less control. slower movements equal more control. Lift slowly until you develop some CONTROL. Speed follows accuracy. Be accurate first.

merlin

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Thanks for the detailed replys. I’ll try things out this week and see how it goes.

I find that I can completely ignore training my arms so long as my other body parts are in order (Chest, Delts, and Back). Hell, I’ve been able to get away with just a couple sets of incline dumbell curls after a vicious back workout, and the next day my arms are pumped to bursting.

Now, thats not to say that I’m doing my back work incorrectly, and my biceps are doing most of the work, it’s that most people forget that the muscles in the body tend to work synergistically,…(that means ‘together’-lol). More people have a hard time getting their back muscles to contract because they’re not used to it in everyday life (besides, you can watch you biceps contract).

A buddy of mine didn’t have a lot of time to do Biceps the other day, so I suggested he do a few sets of curls, supersetted with Top-ROM chins. Usually when we do chins we really focus on the bottom-ROM to work our back muscles more, and play down the biceps from assisting too much, but this time, it was just the reverse.

Your body will naturally want to make moving a weight from point A to point B as simple as possible, and that means using more than one muscle group if it can. Understanding this concept can enable you to allow secondary muscles to work, or to try to circumvent them.

-S

remember, the eccentric part of the lift is very important to bicep growth.