Brandon Lilly Injury

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[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
Hard to tell from video I guess you both were there then I guess a singlet and knee sleeves don’t help. [/quote]

You got it. The point of the singlet isn’t to help the lifter, but the judges. Since it’s a single piece of form fitting material, it makes it much easier for the judges to see if squat depth is reached compared to a shorts/t-shirt combo or other type of device.

Knee sleeves differ greatly from wraps due to their inability to be wound tightly. You can buy a super small set of knee sleeves if you want to try to get an elastic effect, but it’s still nothing like wraps. They’re ultimately used to keep the knees warm, which can be helpful if you’ve been training a long time and your knees are beat up.

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[quote]jeep7588 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
No problem I am not for or against wearing gear and who knows what he may or may not have been wearing based on what the other post said about hiding his bench shirt.[/quote]
That was a joke lol. Some guy accused him of that a while back, but it was a false and ridiculous claim. People have been joking with him about it ever since.[/quote]
So much for letting stuff go sorry I did not know inside baseball stuff on the mainstream sport of powerlifting and national icon Brandon Lilly. Round and round we go at this point I will concede you and your basement dwelling buddies win you got me ! So much for trying to strike up a friendly conversation I guess only Louie Simmons and Fred Hatfield are cool enough for your internet forum.
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Dude you take this way too seriously. Lolz. Wouldn’t call myself basement dwelling. I dont even have a basement. But like lolz.

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[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Don’t wish that (or any) kind of injury on anyone, but you honestly wouldn’t think less of the guy if you found out he’s a lying, cheating woman beating thief who’s became “rich and famous” (relatively, obviously) from plagiarizing other people’s work? Think I’d probably view him a li’l differently if any of that were true (really just the business stuff, his home life while maybe disappointing, is none of my concern).
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Seriously?!? Copying someone’s work is worse than beating your wife in your books? That’s messed up.

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[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:

[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:

[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Don’t date a girl with a stripper name who can’t name 5 states in the US.
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IMO…every man should casually date at least one girl like this in their lifetime.
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Couldn’t agree more. [/quote]

If by “date” you mean “fuck,” then yes, I agree. At that point we’d only be disagreeing on when to use the term, “date.” :slight_smile:

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I always thought the term ‘casual dating’ was a euphemism for fucking without a romantic connection lol.

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[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Oh, and if I hear one more mongoloid play the, “it’s her right to state her opinion, man” card, I’m going to pull out what little hair I have.

Yea, it’s absolutely her right. It’s also equally mine and everyone else’s right to call her on her abject stupidity. I don’t need to hear for the umpteenth time that some moron is allowed to state their opinion because I’m well aware of that fact.

But apparently the flip side of being criticized for opinions that you freely publicized is somehow not OK. Howsabout someone explains that to me?[/quote]

It’s fine to call her out, but I’d say you didn’t publicize your opinion in a good way. I didn’t like her comment at all, but didn’t think what you wrote was worth shit either.

I doubt anyone posting in here has actually met her. Maybe some have met Dan Green. I’m SURE we don’t understand the dynamics of the relationship between Dan and his wife, nor the history they have with Brandon Lilly.

Maybe this was just the end of a lot of bullshit that has built up and she made a mistake. Maybe she was just being a cunt. Obviously, the time, manner, and place principle was ignored and the comment was out of hand.

But trying to sit from your keyboard and psychoanalyze her whole character while attacking her because she has weird fucking name – c’mon, you’re not doing much better than she did. The only difference is you don’t have a responsibility to readership and that we’re discussing this topic in a lifting forum and not open wide on facebook.

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Back to Brandon and what Reed posted…

Listened to him on Mark Bell’s podcast and didn’t leave a very good impression. Kind of like a salesman who tries to be your friend to sell the product. He does seem to talk himself up a lot and do a bit of name dropping.

No matter what or who Brandon is beyond the public eye doesn’t change that this accident is just horrible. Seriously, that video is scary to watch. He loved lifting, and now he is going to be considerably handicapped in the sport he loved.

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[quote]Sutebun wrote:
Maybe this was just the end of a lot of bullshit that has built up and she made a mistake. Maybe she was just being a cunt. Obviously, the time, manner, and place principle was ignored and the comment was out of hand.
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No it is definitely the end of a lot of bullshit that has built up. Dan said so in the thread. Like you said though, still out of hand. It doesn’t excuse kicking the guy while he’s down.

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So I’m just going to veer off the sexy topic of Brandon being a dick and just say maybe he hurt himself because of a walk-out squat without knee wraps? I would imagine chronic usage of knee wraps just facilitates the possibility of a knee/quad injury since you’re relying on substantial amounts of rebound from fabric to get you out of the hole. Maybe it changes some biomechanics. Then again, I don’t know if Brandon even used knee-wraps for most of his squat training up to the Fit Expo. Then again, I’m not really a fan of knee-wraps, in fact in Brandon’s case, they rather disgust me.

I might get flamed for this, but I cringe at how Lilly squats. He can hardly get to depth, and he has to fight SO hard just to get down there, and to make it worse his knees are probably wrapped so damn tight his entire body is just a ticking time bomb. I think knee-wraps are totally acceptable when your body can handle squatting bellow parallel without 900lbs on your back. Otherwise, I think the entire concept is just fruitless.

YEH YEH!

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I am sticking with my theory that the injury most likely happened because he had 750lbs on his back and tried to squat it.

That is a lot of weight and sometimes, no matter how awesome we are, the body says “no”

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You make entirely too much sense for an internet forum.

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I am sticking with my theory that the injury most likely happened because he had 750lbs on his back and tried to squat it.

That is a lot of weight and sometimes, no matter how awesome we are, the body says “no”[/quote]

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I am sticking with my theory that the injury most likely happened because he had 750lbs on his back and tried to squat it.

That is a lot of weight and sometimes, no matter how awesome we are, the body says “no”[/quote]

Probably. I’ve seen that type of thing happen a couple of times. Once was to me at a meet in 2011. Coming out of the hole, my hips shifted forward, the bar hit the floor behind me and my knees went down. I ended up on my face, uninjured but was very fortunate. Things like that happen and they happen fast.

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[quote]OBoile wrote:

[quote]WhiteFlash wrote:

Don’t wish that (or any) kind of injury on anyone, but you honestly wouldn’t think less of the guy if you found out he’s a lying, cheating woman beating thief who’s became “rich and famous” (relatively, obviously) from plagiarizing other people’s work? Think I’d probably view him a li’l differently if any of that were true (really just the business stuff, his home life while maybe disappointing, is none of my concern).
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Seriously?!? Copying someone’s work is worse than beating your wife in your books? That’s messed up.[/quote]

Not even remotely close to what I meant. Re-read what was written.

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couple updates from facebook…

Juggernaut Training Systems
January 29
Brandon Lilly is going in for another surgery today. His doctor suspects that his patella was actually broken before Sunday’s incident. This would prevent it from healing correctly, so they are going in to remove the smaller broken piece. I will report more when I know it.

Juggernaut Training Systems
16 hours ago
Just a brief update from Brandon Lilly…

Got to get out of bed once, and out a chair today. Did some rounds of very small ankle, and hip rolling type movements. Being bed ridden is mentally tough, but today was a good day and tomorrow should be better.

Left leg can tolerate 25% load,right leg close to 50%. Any movement will be with a walker for a few weeks. Thanks for the messages, and well wishes it definitely helps. I’ll keep updates posted. #365STRONG

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[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I am sticking with my theory that the injury most likely happened because he had 750lbs on his back and tried to squat it.

That is a lot of weight and sometimes, no matter how awesome we are, the body says “no”[/quote]

While my initial comment “roids” was more a joke than anything, one should not entirely dismiss the potential use of copious amounts of AAS as a contributing factor. Clearly I don’t know how much good ol’ Brandon is using prior and on comp day, but I can imagine that the amounts could make some BBing pros blush.

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[quote]infinite_shore wrote:

[quote]T3hPwnisher wrote:
I am sticking with my theory that the injury most likely happened because he had 750lbs on his back and tried to squat it.

That is a lot of weight and sometimes, no matter how awesome we are, the body says “no”[/quote]

While my initial comment “roids” was more a joke than anything, one should not entirely dismiss the potential use of copious amounts of AAS as a contributing factor. Clearly I don’t know how much good ol’ Brandon is using prior and on comp day, but I can imagine that the amounts could make some BBing pros blush.[/quote]
Yeah, the additional increase in strength output for someone on AAS does seem to overload the tendons and joints faster than they can adapt. Csulli pointed this out in a thread recently I just don’t remember where.

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[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
Hard to tell from video I guess you both were there then I guess a singlet and knee sleeves don’t help. [/quote]

Do you know what knee sleeves are?

They’re not knee wraps, since you’re obviously confused. And a singlet is basically a wrestling outfit–basic cloth with no support whatsoever. UnderArmour shirts have more support than them.

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[quote]jeep7588 wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
No problem I am not for or against wearing gear and who knows what he may or may not have been wearing based on what the other post said about hiding his bench shirt.[/quote]
That was a joke lol. Some guy accused him of that a while back, but it was a false and ridiculous claim. People have been joking with him about it ever since.[/quote]
So much for letting stuff go sorry I did not know inside baseball stuff on the mainstream sport of powerlifting and national icon Brandon Lilly. Round and round we go at this point I will concede you and your basement dwelling buddies win you got me ! So much for trying to strike up a friendly conversation I guess only Louie Simmons and Fred Hatfield are cool enough for your internet forum.
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csulli was being quite nice to you and joking with you about that misunderstanding. You on the other hand are getting butthurt.

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I’ve never known ANYONE who does AAS or E-blockers, even those that cause dry joints, ever grow so fast that their joints couldn’t keep up. That’s a very misinformed statement.

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[quote]Sutebun wrote:

It’s fine to call her out, but I’d say you didn’t publicize your opinion in a good way. I didn’t like her comment at all, but didn’t think what you wrote was worth shit either.

I doubt anyone posting in here has actually met her. Maybe some have met Dan Green. I’m SURE we don’t understand the dynamics of the relationship between Dan and his wife, nor the history they have with Brandon Lilly.

Maybe this was just the end of a lot of bullshit that has built up and she made a mistake. Maybe she was just being a cunt. Obviously, the time, manner, and place principle was ignored and the comment was out of hand.

But trying to sit from your keyboard and psychoanalyze her whole character while attacking her because she has weird fucking name – c’mon, you’re not doing much better than she did. The only difference is you don’t have a responsibility to readership and that we’re discussing this topic in a lifting forum and not open wide on facebook.[/quote]

IT’S MY RIGHT TO SAY WHAT I WANT
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jk, jk.

I freely admit that I’m being deliberately crass here. And while I may be assessing her character on a limited amount of available information, I still feel pretty good about my assessment.

Named Sparkle and doesn’t go by something else? Statistically she was ridiculed as a kid and is less likely to be intelligent because of it.

Constantly trumpets her Christianity on social media? The only people I know who do this are attention-seeking jerks who feel the need to tell everyone how Christian they are because otherwise no one would be able to guess it. The whole actions and words thing, if you get me.

Needs three wedding ceremonies? Again, I don’t know any intelligent women hanging onto Disney fantasies. Also redundant is the attention-seeking this implies.

An immediate inflammatory response to a gruesomely injured person? Check number three for attention-seeking, and absurdly insensitive.

I think I can reasonably conclude she’s attention-seeking, if nothing else. But I’m clearly not going to walk up and say this to Dan’s face even if I could, so I guess that’s something?

I’ll add that his last response to all this seemed passive aggressive and unnecessary, but whatever.

I really don’t care about Brandon Lilly outside of this context, which is seeing him get pounced on by someone whose opinion no one should care about anyway. He’s almost certainly a used car salesman, and I’ll probably never run the cube method, but I don’t have anything against him.