I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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? You literally just said 2 posts ago that you’ve never used knee wraps, and here you said you have… which is it?
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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You came in here to compare Brandon’s injury with Kevin Ogar’s injury even though the two have nothing to do each other. You then speculated he may have hurt himself because of all the gear he was using. Then, people who actually know what they are talking about, explained to you, rather gently, that he wasn’t using the gear you were referencing. Now you’re butthurt x1000.
You are clearly a CF fanboy. You came here to troll.
Bottom line is actual practitioners know that there are inherent and serious risks involved that cannot be avoided when placing a 750+lb barbell on your back. That danger is inherent to the sport and unavoidable. Sort of the way that football carries known, inherent risk and all participants know those risks. Furthermore, people were suggesting ways to make the sport safer in this thread. Not to mention there are all kinds of fucking spotters at any legit meet in an attempt to prevent injuries.
On the other hand, Kevin’s unfortunate injury occurred during a completely random, untested protocol designed to take the human body to maximum fatigue under heavy load - without spotters or any kind of safety precautions at all. His accident may have been a complete freak, but the reason people were clutching their pearls about that and not this is because the risk of what Kevin was doing was not as transparent as what happens in powerlifting. When metcons and comps are random and constantly unknown, the inherent risk becomes unknown, particularly where you are dealing with fatigue under life-threatening loads. Not to mention the severity of the injury.
Brandon’s life will be affected dramatically by his injury. Kevin’s will be affected fundamentally and inalterably. But more importantly, these injuries have nothing to do with each other and if you don’t know a lick about powerlifting or care to put anything positive or relevant into this conversation, you should probably just mosey on out.
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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Sorry dude, you just hit on a pet peeve of mine is all. I can’t stand it when people comment on gear someone is/isn’t wearing in a lifting video when they don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s worse when it’s the opposite of what you did though, like when people think someone is squatting or benching raw when they are clearly in mega gear.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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Sorry dude, you just hit on a pet peeve of mine is all. I can’t stand it when people comment on gear someone is/isn’t wearing in a lifting video when they don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s worse when it’s the opposite of what you did though, like when people think someone is squatting or benching raw when they are clearly in mega gear.[/quote]
Idk man remember when lilly was wearing that blast shirt when he was raw benching??? Totally had a leviathon on underneath his singlet this time.
[quote]budreiser wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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Sorry dude, you just hit on a pet peeve of mine is all. I can’t stand it when people comment on gear someone is/isn’t wearing in a lifting video when they don’t know what they’re talking about. It’s worse when it’s the opposite of what you did though, like when people think someone is squatting or benching raw when they are clearly in mega gear.[/quote]
Idk man remember when lilly was wearing that blast shirt when he was raw benching??? Totally had a leviathon on underneath his singlet this time.[/quote]
Now that is true, Brandon is notorious for his bench shirt that he had meticulously colored to match his skin, tattoos, and singlet such that it is perfectly camouflaged.
With all that Cube money I wouldn’t be surprised if he had manufactured powerlifting gear with new age light refraction technology rendering it invisible to the naked eye.
I wonder if Lilly’s injury had something to do with the fact that he cut water weight to make the 308s. Then put it back on within a few hours going back up to I think something like 336. Either way, I hope he recovers really well and gets back on the platform in the future to SQ/DL again. Maybe while he is recovering he can focus more on his bench and hit a 600 raw.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Don’t date a girl with a stripper name who can’t name 5 states in the US.
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IMO…every man should casually date at least one girl like this in their lifetime.
[quote]BlueCollarTr8n wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
Don’t date a girl with a stripper name who can’t name 5 states in the US.
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IMO…every man should casually date at least one girl like this in their lifetime.
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Couldn’t agree more.
No problem I am not for or against wearing gear and who knows what he may or may not have been wearing based on what the other post said about hiding his bench shirt. He was definitely wearing something. But i could personally care less what he was wearing to help w his lift.Just crazy looking injury that could have been much worse. And my only thought was if whatever he was using gear wise contributed to the injury. If he was using nothing substantial then who knows.
[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]strongmanvinny wrote:
I think it’s a shame that this kind of drama is being involved in strength sports. People will turn on someone just as fast as they looked up to them. It’s as if we’re all looking for something to distract from ourselves and what’s actually important. Who gives a fuck what Brandon Lilly did? Even if all that is true, it wouldn’t make me think any less of him as a person or a lifter. Only thing that would make me think otherwise is if he chopped my moms head off or something. We’re all guilty. [/quote]
Vinny, I don’t know how to tell you this… Sparkle Green just posted on Facebook that Brandon went over to your mom’s house in his wheelchair and chopped her head off with a battleaxe that he won at a meet. Sorry man.[/quote]
omg am so sed.
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I was browsing this thread in the middle of a food court and now I can’t stop laughing uncontrollably.
just so im clear here. Her name is Sparkle Green… damn thats awesome
[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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You came in here to compare Brandon’s injury with Kevin Ogar’s injury even though the two have nothing to do each other. You then speculated he may have hurt himself because of all the gear he was using. Then, people who actually know what they are talking about, explained to you, rather gently, that he wasn’t using the gear you were referencing. Now you’re butthurt x1000.
You are clearly a CF fanboy. You came here to troll.
Bottom line is actual practitioners know that there are inherent and serious risks involved that cannot be avoided when placing a 750+lb barbell on your back. That danger is inherent to the sport and unavoidable. Sort of the way that football carries known, inherent risk and all participants know those risks. Furthermore, people were suggesting ways to make the sport safer in this thread. Not to mention there are all kinds of fucking spotters at any legit meet in an attempt to prevent injuries.
On the other hand, Kevin’s unfortunate injury occurred during a completely random, untested protocol designed to take the human body to maximum fatigue under heavy load - without spotters or any kind of safety precautions at all. His accident may have been a complete freak, but the reason people were clutching their pearls about that and not this is because the risk of what Kevin was doing was not as transparent as what happens in powerlifting. When metcons and comps are random and constantly unknown, the inherent risk becomes unknown, particularly where you are dealing with fatigue under life-threatening loads. Not to mention the severity of the injury.
Brandon’s life will be affected dramatically by his injury. Kevin’s will be affected fundamentally and inalterably. But more importantly, these injuries have nothing to do with each other and if you don’t know a lick about powerlifting or care to put anything positive or relevant into this conversation, you should probably just mosey on out.
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I was not comparing the 2 injuries just the reaction to the injuries wow you are a piece of work. I was being sarcastic I know that’s hard to get but wow. I like how you know me unreal. I have competed in power lifting however I did one cross fit workout and did not like it. Also look though some of the most recent posts where another poster talked about how the guy hides his bench shirts. Anways it alwsys makes my day when a faceless internet poster can know everything about you and who you are and what you have done. Wow
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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You came in here to compare Brandon’s injury with Kevin Ogar’s injury even though the two have nothing to do each other. You then speculated he may have hurt himself because of all the gear he was using. Then, people who actually know what they are talking about, explained to you, rather gently, that he wasn’t using the gear you were referencing. Now you’re butthurt x1000.
You are clearly a CF fanboy. You came here to troll.
Bottom line is actual practitioners know that there are inherent and serious risks involved that cannot be avoided when placing a 750+lb barbell on your back. That danger is inherent to the sport and unavoidable. Sort of the way that football carries known, inherent risk and all participants know those risks. Furthermore, people were suggesting ways to make the sport safer in this thread. Not to mention there are all kinds of fucking spotters at any legit meet in an attempt to prevent injuries.
On the other hand, Kevin’s unfortunate injury occurred during a completely random, untested protocol designed to take the human body to maximum fatigue under heavy load - without spotters or any kind of safety precautions at all. His accident may have been a complete freak, but the reason people were clutching their pearls about that and not this is because the risk of what Kevin was doing was not as transparent as what happens in powerlifting. When metcons and comps are random and constantly unknown, the inherent risk becomes unknown, particularly where you are dealing with fatigue under life-threatening loads. Not to mention the severity of the injury.
Brandon’s life will be affected dramatically by his injury. Kevin’s will be affected fundamentally and inalterably. But more importantly, these injuries have nothing to do with each other and if you don’t know a lick about powerlifting or care to put anything positive or relevant into this conversation, you should probably just mosey on out.
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I was not comparing the 2 injuries just the reaction to the injuries wow you are a piece of work. I was being sarcastic I know that’s hard to get but wow. I like how you know me unreal. I have competed in power lifting however I did one cross fit workout and did not like it. Also look though some of the most recent posts where another poster talked about how the guy hides his bench shirts. Anways it alwsys makes my day when a faceless internet poster can know everything about you and who you are and what you have done. Wow [/quote]
Lol
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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You came in here to compare Brandon’s injury with Kevin Ogar’s injury even though the two have nothing to do each other. You then speculated he may have hurt himself because of all the gear he was using. Then, people who actually know what they are talking about, explained to you, rather gently, that he wasn’t using the gear you were referencing. Now you’re butthurt x1000.
You are clearly a CF fanboy. You came here to troll.
Bottom line is actual practitioners know that there are inherent and serious risks involved that cannot be avoided when placing a 750+lb barbell on your back. That danger is inherent to the sport and unavoidable. Sort of the way that football carries known, inherent risk and all participants know those risks. Furthermore, people were suggesting ways to make the sport safer in this thread. Not to mention there are all kinds of fucking spotters at any legit meet in an attempt to prevent injuries.
On the other hand, Kevin’s unfortunate injury occurred during a completely random, untested protocol designed to take the human body to maximum fatigue under heavy load - without spotters or any kind of safety precautions at all. His accident may have been a complete freak, but the reason people were clutching their pearls about that and not this is because the risk of what Kevin was doing was not as transparent as what happens in powerlifting. When metcons and comps are random and constantly unknown, the inherent risk becomes unknown, particularly where you are dealing with fatigue under life-threatening loads. Not to mention the severity of the injury.
Brandon’s life will be affected dramatically by his injury. Kevin’s will be affected fundamentally and inalterably. But more importantly, these injuries have nothing to do with each other and if you don’t know a lick about powerlifting or care to put anything positive or relevant into this conversation, you should probably just mosey on out.
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I was not comparing the 2 injuries just the reaction to the injuries wow you are a piece of work. I was being sarcastic I know that’s hard to get but wow. I like how you know me unreal. I have competed in power lifting however I did one cross fit workout and did not like it. Also look though some of the most recent posts where another poster talked about how the guy hides his bench shirts. Anways it alwsys makes my day when a faceless internet poster can know everything about you and who you are and what you have done. Wow [/quote]
I’ll take that as a concession that your comments were worthless. As a competitor, you should be even more embarrassed by your ignorance.
I admit I know little about you outside the context of this thread, but I’d like to keep it that way.
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
No problem I am not for or against wearing gear and who knows what he may or may not have been wearing based on what the other post said about hiding his bench shirt.[/quote]
That was a joke lol. Some guy accused him of that a while back, but it was a false and ridiculous claim. People have been joking with him about it ever since.
[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
[quote]Mad Martigan wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
I was commenting on the reactions to the injuries should I comment on it on in the supplement forum ? You are the one saying that because I can’t tell from a video exactly what his set up was that I never competed in a powerlifting comp in my life. Yes I have used knee wraps before.
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You came in here to compare Brandon’s injury with Kevin Ogar’s injury even though the two have nothing to do each other. You then speculated he may have hurt himself because of all the gear he was using. Then, people who actually know what they are talking about, explained to you, rather gently, that he wasn’t using the gear you were referencing. Now you’re butthurt x1000.
You are clearly a CF fanboy. You came here to troll.
Bottom line is actual practitioners know that there are inherent and serious risks involved that cannot be avoided when placing a 750+lb barbell on your back. That danger is inherent to the sport and unavoidable. Sort of the way that football carries known, inherent risk and all participants know those risks. Furthermore, people were suggesting ways to make the sport safer in this thread. Not to mention there are all kinds of fucking spotters at any legit meet in an attempt to prevent injuries.
On the other hand, Kevin’s unfortunate injury occurred during a completely random, untested protocol designed to take the human body to maximum fatigue under heavy load - without spotters or any kind of safety precautions at all. His accident may have been a complete freak, but the reason people were clutching their pearls about that and not this is because the risk of what Kevin was doing was not as transparent as what happens in powerlifting. When metcons and comps are random and constantly unknown, the inherent risk becomes unknown, particularly where you are dealing with fatigue under life-threatening loads. Not to mention the severity of the injury.
Brandon’s life will be affected dramatically by his injury. Kevin’s will be affected fundamentally and inalterably. But more importantly, these injuries have nothing to do with each other and if you don’t know a lick about powerlifting or care to put anything positive or relevant into this conversation, you should probably just mosey on out.
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I was not comparing the 2 injuries just the reaction to the injuries wow you are a piece of work. I was being sarcastic I know that’s hard to get but wow. I like how you know me unreal. I have competed in power lifting however I did one cross fit workout and did not like it. Also look though some of the most recent posts where another poster talked about how the guy hides his bench shirts. Anways it alwsys makes my day when a faceless internet poster can know everything about you and who you are and what you have done. Wow [/quote]
I’ll take that as a concession that your comments were worthless. As a competitor, you should be even more embarrassed by your ignorance.
I admit I know little about you outside the context of this thread, but I’d like to keep it that way.[/quote]
Ignorance of what ? Please inform me were you at either event ? Do you know for sure without a doubt what happened ? Do you know without a doubt what Brandon was or was not wearing. So he is wearing nothing but a pair of shorts and a T-shirt ? Do you know for sure the programing of the cross fit contest had something or nothing to do with what happened to Kevin ? I was just commenting on the difference in reaction to both.
Both were competing at a high level doing things outside what their bodies may have been able to handle. But you are making it personal like I insulted you. Maybe you don’t understand where I am coming from or you are just a jerk. I’m leaning towards the latter but I will give you the benefit of doubt that you did not give me.
[quote]csulli wrote:
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
No problem I am not for or against wearing gear and who knows what he may or may not have been wearing based on what the other post said about hiding his bench shirt.[/quote]
That was a joke lol. Some guy accused him of that a while back, but it was a false and ridiculous claim. People have been joking with him about it ever since.[/quote]
So much for letting stuff go sorry I did not know inside baseball stuff on the mainstream sport of powerlifting and national icon Brandon Lilly. Round and round we go at this point I will concede you and your basement dwelling buddies win you got me ! So much for trying to strike up a friendly conversation I guess only Louie Simmons and Fred Hatfield are cool enough for your internet forum.
[quote]jeep7588 wrote:
Ignorance of what ? Please inform me were you at either event ? Do you know for sure without a doubt what happened ? Do you know without a doubt what Brandon was or was not wearing. So he is wearing nothing but a pair of shorts and a T-shirt ? Do you know for sure the programing of the cross fit contest had something or nothing to do with what happened to Kevin ? I was just commenting on the difference in reaction to both.
Both were competing at a high level doing things outside what their bodies may have been able to handle. But you are making it personal like I insulted you. Maybe you don’t understand where I am coming from or you are just a jerk. I’m leaning towards the latter but I will give you the benefit of doubt that you did not give me.[/quote]
I am a jerk, and we can all be ignorant at times, myself included. So I apologize for my jerkiness.
I take nothing that happens on T-Nation personally. But, uh, you need to simmer down. There is nothing that serious going on here that should rile you up this much.
That being said, when will you be a cool as Louie Simmons? I’m curious because I’d like to nominate you for new admittance into the basement-dwellers club but I’m just not sure you’re ready yet.
You’re a bit of an oddball Mr. Jeep. I hope you don’t take it too harshly. My advice is to simply not speak on something (lifting gear) if you don’t know about it. A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.