[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I think vinpo is the ticket.
BBB[/quote]
Agreed. I don’t understand why Biotest doesn’t include it in one of their products, like Power Drive or Spike.
Should DMAE be taken mainly in the morning? I don’t want to be up all night…
[quote]B rocK wrote:
Should DMAE be taken mainly in the morning? I don’t want to be up all night…[/quote]
Yea, of at least give yourself a 6 hour window before bed.
I’ve taken it before my after work workouts, like at 5pm, and had no problem crashing at 11pm.
Treat it like any other stim.
anyone heard anything about methylated B9 regenerating hippocampal neurons? There is an article on Poliquin’s page about it. If you look at his “Fast Brain” product, there is an article that accompanies it. Check it out and let me know what you all think.
I am going to start taking 10 grams of glycine after my workouts. I was wondering if taking this during my off days could be beneficial to the mental lethargy I seem to have lately. If so, recommended dose and time? I start school at 10am and work most nights until about 10pm (plenty of breaks).
Well I was taking vinpocetine for about a week at 20-30 mg/day. Yesterday I took 30 mg as usual along with everything else I’m taking throughout the morning (Piracteam, fish oil, Power Drive, Superfood, protein, acetyl-l-carnitine arginate, Spike Shooter). Well throughout the day my head was fucking pounding. I could literally feel the blood pulse in and out every few minutes.
It was pretty uncomfortable actually and I’m not sure if I will keep using it. If I do I will at least cut back the dose to 10 mg. Someone asked why Biotest doesn’t put it in anything, I think this could be why. Some people might find this effect extremely uncomfortable if they take too much on accident.
I should also add that the past weekend I was doing something else which is pretty detrimental to mental health (won’t say due to legality), but I figured the whole stack of things I am on would go a kick ass job at reversing whatever damage that substance does (acetyl-l-carnitine and other strong antioxidants are showing to be very effective in animal trials at doing this).
In addition to the 10 mg vinpo I took that night which I think made the experience stronger, and the ALC and superfood, I think the concominant use helped me a lot and after this weekend normally I would be running pretty slow this week, but I am not. In fact I feel pretty great, which is usually not the case.
I’m not sure whether it was the vinpo or ALC or everything together (probably) that really did it, but damn these “brain function boosters” are really something. If they can effectively reverse the short-term effects of compound X, then by God by God there’s at least a foot of snow on the ground here. =P
Those of you taking this stuff…do you have a pill or powder form?
I have my vipo/mix in pill form and my DMAE in powder form…
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Don’t take vinpo and ALCAR together. It will probably give you a headache. It does for me and for others I have spoken with. In fact, I have a tub of alcar to get rid of if anyone wants it. I really don’t like the stuff.
BBB[/quote]
Yep, second that.
It’s not the Vinpo giving you issues. Its the combo of vinpo and ALCAR.
Had the exact same problem.
One can eventually develop a tolerance, so don’t throw either away.
I would stick to 20mg of vinpo. Your a young guy and there is no immediate need for ALCAR.
Eventually, add in ALCAR in very small amounts till you get used to it.
I have added in Superfood today. Yummy.
[quote]B rocK wrote:
Those of you taking this stuff…do you have a pill or powder form?
I have my vipo/mix in pill form and my DMAE in powder form…[/quote]
I get my Vinpo and extra DMAE from the local VitaminShoppe by my house. Its a fantastic deal for Vinpo- 100 caps at 10mg each for 10 bucks. No worry about shipping or anything. I just swing on in and buy what I need. The DMAE is pretty cheap too.
They are both in pill forms.
I also get DMAE in powder with Power Drive
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Don’t take vinpo and ALCAR together. It will probably give you a headache. It does for me and for others I have spoken with. In fact, I have a tub of alcar to get rid of if anyone wants it. I really don’t like the stuff.
BBB[/quote]
I don’t like it either and I do too have a tub I could get rid of. It makes my brain foggy.
My stack. All input/advice welcome.
30 mg/ed Vinpo
100 mg/ed Provigil (with breakfast)
mid-day 1 or 2 Yohimbine-Free Spike (with lunch)
And a special note of thanks to BBB for all his help!!
I felt like the vinpocetine + ALC combination was less so of a headache (as it wasn’t really painful) rather than the feeling of blood pulsating into your brain much more than it should be. Or that the ALC makes you actually feel what the vinpocetine is doing, whereas vinpocetine on its own seems relatively unnoticeable in this respect.
I also am only using the ALC/ALCARG for a few days following the other activity in an attempt to negate the harm it causes. Else I wouldn’t be taking it at all… it seems to have helped though.
Anyways I won’t be combining them anymore, thanks for the info.
[quote]Rusty Barbell wrote:
It was pretty uncomfortable actually and I’m not sure if I will keep using it. If I do I will at least cut back the dose to 10 mg. Someone asked why Biotest doesn’t put it in anything, I think this could be why. Some people might find this effect extremely uncomfortable if they take too much on accident.
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I call those self-correcting problems. That also is likely why Biotest isn’t putting Vinpo into supplements, since the non-experienced and younger crowd tend to go too far in their enthusiastic approaches to supplements. I did that once, and gained a little too much weight taking the proteins. Hey, when you’re young it makes perfect sense to double the loads and volume while taking double volumes of Surge, M Drive, Power Drive, Spike, etc. Right?!? I could not imagine the screaming headaches extra stimulus would have caused me. I hardly slept as it was. Recipe for failure, right?
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
My stack. All input/advice welcome.
30 mg/ed Vinpo
100 mg/ed Provigil (with breakfast)
mid-day 1 or 2 Yohimbine-Free Spike (with lunch)
And a special note of thanks to BBB for all his help!!
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Sounds like a good mix for general sharpness. Wish I could afford the Provigil.
I thought I was the only one who hates ALCAR - makes me feel like shit. Hate the stuff.
re: Vinpo: for some reason, 10 mg. makes me feel great. More, not so much.
HH - I saw you were taking yohimbine free. Yohimbine doesn’t agree with you?
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
I thought I was the only one who hates ALCAR - makes me feel like shit. Hate the stuff.
re: Vinpo: for some reason, 10 mg. makes me feel great. More, not so much.
HH - I saw you were taking yohimbine free. Yohimbine doesn’t agree with you? [/quote]
No, not at all. It probably wouldn’t work as well but would love to try HRX sans the Yo. The supps here are great and it bugs me that I can’t use some because of that.
Spike w/o the Yo is a magnificent ride, but they really really mean it when they say to only take it once per day. Learned my lesson…
Provigil is a great addition, btw. My insurance covers it but I’d pay for it if need be, its that good.
Hey just wanted to give a heads up not sure if this was posted but I just ordered some vinpo and DMAE on physicianformulas.com and they are running a promotion with a free bottle of DMAE, the other product’s and shipping prices seem pretty good as well.