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WIth the Oxi I was wondering if a powder will suffice. That is I mix it with juice like you said or just put it in my mouth and take a big gulp of water with it?

What would you say would be a good dose for the Ani/Oxi during intense periods as well as the huperzime A throughout?

And last question, where would be the best place to get Oxi in already capsule form? As well as the best supplier with teh best prices? I have found a few good ones but im not entirely “in the know” about the various prices being charged .

Thank You very much for all of your help, keep up the solid work!

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so…

today i’ve been prescribed LEGALLY some ADDERALL XR for my ADHD.

what can i use with this amphetamine to get the most of it?

Piracetam\aniracetam\ALCAR\Oxi\etc…?

i have 30x 10mg pills
and
30x 5mg pills

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Ouch. The thought of taking Adderall sends my glutathione levels plummeting just thinking about it, lol.

I can’t say what would work well in this occassion, due to lack of personal experience.

However, I would surmise that aniracetam, with its anxiolytic effect, would be a good counterpoint to the adderal with it’s 'phet hyper stimulation.

Please make sure you consume LOTS of antioxidants with your adderal to counter the oxidative stress.

Bushy[/quote]

I’m using ALCAR(acetyl-R-Carnitine) and NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine).

dans i was thinking of adding some ALA ( alpha-lipolic-acid) to the mix.

what could i use with that?

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bushi, earlier you said you use Choline Citrate I believe… I’ve been reading and most say that CDP Choline is THE best, so I was just wondering why you don’t take that? From what I can see it’s more expensive, though I would like to try it.

Does anyone know the cheapest place to buy CDP Choline?

PS: Also there is a PhosphatidylCholine bottle at my local store, is this better than the Choline Bitartate I’m currently taking?

PPS: I’m not in major study mode anymore, just hanging out and socializing, so would Aniracetam be my best noop, and what dosages do you guys use when it’s just a normal day?

767

Well, I promised an update on my nootropic experience after about a month, so here goes:

I began taking “brain octane,” which includes piracetam, choline bitartrate, acetyl-l-carnitine, alpha-gpc, Dmae, l-carnosine, l-phnylalanine, and l-tyrosine. I also added in centrophenoxine and rhodiola rosea after a couple weeks.

When I first began the brain octane, I thought I noticed effects. I don’t think I’d read this anywhere, but colors seemed much brighter. I also seemed to be in a slightly better mood. After about a week, however, the effects started to wane. This is when I started the centrophenoxine and rhodiola rosea.

I never “felt” anything from the centrophenoxine, which I kind of expected. In fact, about a week after the combination with the brain octane, I found my memory worse.

Word recall was noticeably affected - I am a teacher and writer and often found myself searching for the names of authors or words that I should have known without thinking. I never got the headache that some people report, though.

Eventually, I just quit taking them. It wasn’t even a decision I made; I just stopped feeling the urge to take them and forgot about it.

That being said, a few times since quitting I have taken the brain octane or centrophenoxine independently. The brain octane I believe I can feel - a slightly more energetic mind - slightly. But the effects diminish when I keep taking it. The centro - nothing, really.

Overall, I was a little disappointed, to be honest. I haven’t given up on nootropics, though, and will more than likely try something else soon. Probably another racetam with a choline source.

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My advice for the adderall is to schedule plenty of time off with it. One day a week off and a week every few months will keep it effective, keep required dosages down, and reduce side effects. The first few times you use it you will feel magical, then gradually the best of it fades and you notice the side effects more. Taking time off won’t give you that first few times productivity rush, but it will help keep you at a comfortable level.

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[quote]dharmabum31 wrote:
Well, I promised an update on my nootropic experience after about a month, so here goes:

I began taking “brain octane,” which includes piracetam, choline bitartrate, acetyl-l-carnitine, alpha-gpc, Dmae, l-carnosine, l-phnylalanine, and l-tyrosine. I also added in centrophenoxine and rhodiola rosea after a couple weeks.

When I first began the brain octane, I thought I noticed effects. I don’t think I’d read this anywhere, but colors seemed much brighter. I also seemed to be in a slightly better mood. After about a week, however, the effects started to wane. This is when I started the centrophenoxine and rhodiola rosea.

I never “felt” anything from the centrophenoxine, which I kind of expected. In fact, about a week after the combination with the brain octane, I found my memory worse.

Word recall was noticeably affected - I am a teacher and writer and often found myself searching for the names of authors or words that I should have known without thinking. I never got the headache that some people report, though.

Eventually, I just quit taking them. It wasn’t even a decision I made; I just stopped feeling the urge to take them and forgot about it.

That being said, a few times since quitting I have taken the brain octane or centrophenoxine independently. The brain octane I believe I can feel - a slightly more energetic mind - slightly. But the effects diminish when I keep taking it. The centro - nothing, really.

Overall, I was a little disappointed, to be honest. I haven’t given up on nootropics, though, and will more than likely try something else soon. Probably another racetam with a choline source. [/quote]

Hey Dharma,

I too, bought and have used the Brain Octane. Big dissapointment. I also didn’t find any benefits from the vinpo cousin, Hydergine.

To date, the only noots that I can honestly say I could feel tangible results on were the following, in order of weakest to strongest felt “effects”;

Vinpocetine, Oxiracetam, Modafinil.

Period. Toss in a spike for a cheap bit of help here and there. Adrafinil was a big dissapointment as well.

Real Moda kicks ass all over the place in my opinion. The oxiracetam was a decent second place too. The vinpo while supposed to be used in a long term manner, has given me slightly noticeable benefits from “pulse” dosing as well as continued weekly doses.

Those are my thoughts, and I’ll be trying difft combos here and there, but for now, I’m going to just get some more oxi, and take that and vinpo with a spike here and there. I’ll have to wait further before getting any more Moda for a decent source, that won’t break the bank. This could be wishful thinking at best, lol.

Thanks for all the great posting guys. I realize I haven’t contributed shit in a while, but have been lurking and reading all with interest.

Cheers!

ToneBone

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[quote]MODOK wrote:
Here’s a new a new topic, and I apologize if its been talked about recently; phenibut as a nootropic. We’ve seen it used as a potential anxiolytic and sleep aid at higher doses but there is also low-dose nootropic claims out there. Does anyone have any experience/info/insight?[/quote]

I’ve used it as part of a nootropic and I didnt care for it. It relaxes me too much. I found the feeling uncomfortable when I had to do anything. And I felt I was always battling being lazy.

In the evening when I’m not doing anything however, I like it.

I’m going to try it for sleep aid soon.

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I love Piracetam, 800 mg in the AM and 800 PM. My recall is up and my ability to do mathematical proofs with my students is much better. They seem to pick it up better because I’m presenting the material better.

I noticed also that when I did caffeine withdrawal, I had very minor headaches, which used to be whoppers when I cut caff before. Did the Piracetam help? I think so.

Everyone should try Piracetam — low or no bad side effects, and most get a nice brain boost.

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If I wanted to try oxiracetam to study, what would I expect? Seems like it gets you going for about an hour, then you feel like you need to sleep, so could I, say, take 800mg about 7:00pm, get studying about 7:30, then its wearing off 8:30ish, and be in bed at 9? or do you end up waking up a couple hours after?

I’m looking to do some intense language studying over the summer and think that this would be nice just go over a vocab list before bed and retain it.

Also, do the things you learn on oxi last any longer, or retained easier? Of course I will go over the things multiple times, but how much more effective will it make focused studying?

776

Hey guys

Just thought I would post my experience with theanine. Not really a nootropic, but it is useful.

I had been using it at around 100mg for a while and noticed nothing. So I decided that I would try 600mg and if nothing happened I would not buy it again. So I tried 600mg last night, and the relaxation was dramatic! I’m not exaggerating, it was similar to xanax. I may start using it every night now.

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[quote]roweski wrote:
Headhunter,
Have you ever tried any other -tams to compare it against?
Piracetam is the only -tam i haven’t [barring the obscure], and am tempted to try it as people seem to get different reaction from each of the different noops.

For instance, Oxi- has a stimulant like effect, Ani- a more relaxing one.

I’m tempted but can’t help thinking with such large dose, what it’s metabolites would be/do.

-Rowesk[/quote]

I seem to get side effects from just about everything. Inject with 250 mg of Test and I get E2 through the roof. Anyway, no, the only one I’ve ever tried is Piracetam, which I chose for its very low sides and long history of use and research.

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
roweski wrote:
Headhunter,
Have you ever tried any other -tams to compare it against?
Piracetam is the only -tam i haven’t [barring the obscure], and am tempted to try it as people seem to get different reaction from each of the different noops.

For instance, Oxi- has a stimulant like effect, Ani- a more relaxing one.

I’m tempted but can’t help thinking with such large dose, what it’s metabolites would be/do.

-Rowesk

I seem to get side effects from just about everything. Inject with 250 mg of Test and I get E2 through the roof. Anyway, no, the only one I’ve ever tried is Piracetam, which I chose for its very low sides and long history of use and research.

[/quote]

I can say Piracetam didn’t do diddly for me, haven’t tried anirace yet, but oxi was really nice once I dialed it in with the doseage. Really good and I’m missing it now.

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I’ve used L-Theanine for years. Great after too much caffeine and according to literature no upper levels of toxicity found. It’s also great pre-test time.

I had taken piracetam before and didn’t notice much of anything until today when I tried Headhunters levels (actually 500mg). WOW! Huge difference my focus and concentration are great even after seven months or so of sub-six hour sleep. This was especially helpful in finishing a research paper due today.