ok i dont feel like going through 32 pages. lol.
So whats the verdict on brain performance powders? Im looking for something that gives you the same effects as adderall
[quote]jared530 wrote:
ok i dont feel like going through 32 pages. lol.
So whats the verdict on brain performance powders? Im looking for something that gives you the same effects as adderall[/quote]
The best one will charge you up to read the 32 pages. 
Actually, from what I’ve read, you’d want to try the most used (Piracetam) for a few weeks. Don’t give up quickly though cause it can take a while to impact. If you feel nothing after a month or so on that, try the next most mentioned (oxi), and so on.
These are not overnight wonder drugs. Give each one time and have patience.
[quote]jared530 wrote:
ok i dont feel like going through 32 pages. lol.
So whats the verdict on brain performance powders? Im looking for something that gives you the same effects as adderall[/quote]
How are you taking Adderall?2X ED? For how long? Which form? What does it mostly effect in you? Why do you want to try something else? Help us, we’ll help you.
Phileaux
Ill give you a couple suggestions… I got a little research to do but when I find what Im looking for, Ill post it here for your viewing pleasure
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
To counter what Headhunter says, I beleive that vinpocetine is the foundation of a good noop stack (damn you Tone for coining the word ‘noop’, lol).
Oh and oxiracetam IS literally an overnight wonderdrug.
Just 1 800mg dose, coupled with a learning event (reading a text book, whatever), will show increased retention of that event, 3 months after the event took place, without even refreshment of the information between times.
I am living proof, lol. I have been a lazy fuck when it comes to studying, this latter half of the academic year. Well, ‘lazy’ is a relative term I suppose 
BUT, with just days to go before my finals, I’m still chilling out, because all the info I learnt earlier in the year, although it doesn’t feel like it, is there ready to be tapped into.
It’s an uncanny feeling actually. I feel like anyone else does who hasn’t studied a topic, i.e. the info isn’t floating around in my upper consciousness, BUT, when questioned, the answers just pop out on my tongue, amazing me and impressing others.
It’s a GREAT feeling, btw, (not to sound too smug).
Bushy[/quote]
With regard to Vinpo:
“The substance is widely sold as a supplement and marketed as a “memory enhancer” for otherwise normal individuals. However, the evidence for such an effect is very small. There appears to be some controversy over the possibility of adverse reactions, and low initial dose is therefore recommended by some retailers.”
First of all, allow me to apologize if this has been discussed previously, but I am fairly new with this stuff:
I am interested in trying Vasopressin nasal spray. Has anyone tried it? If so(and you are from the U.S.), where did you order it? I read that it’s OK to order a 3 month supply that is for personal use…is this true?
[quote]Phileaux wrote:
jared530 wrote:
ok i dont feel like going through 32 pages. lol.
So whats the verdict on brain performance powders? Im looking for something that gives you the same effects as adderall
How are you taking Adderall?2X ED? For how long? Which form? What does it mostly effect in you? Why do you want to try something else? Help us, we’ll help you.
Phileaux[/quote]
Lol adderall is just a perscribed pill for ADHD people. Its the most natorious drug for studying, its really popular in colleges. I usually pop a 30mg adderall at 1pm and study strait to 12 at night without even blinking. I cant even notice that that much timehas passed. But extremely hard to get perscribed, i just buy it for about 5$ a pill or trade some chronic for it
hey bushy,
So i should take 800mg of Oxi everyday before I wake up?
And when should i take vinpo?
the oxi sparks my interest
Got some Provigil and found an intelligent doctor yesterday! What a day!!
I got the Provogil for the V-Diet blahs, and am also doing Piracetam (1600 mg/ED). Bushmaster (;), how do you think the Oxi would fit in with that?
Note: I felt outright sympathy for our insurance company —one month of Provigil is $345. OMG!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Ho.Lee.Shit. $345…
And good moda costs less than a dollar a gram in China.
Lets see now. 200mg is a standard dose, which would be 5 days worth and 1g of powder. 30 days divided by 5 equals 6g of powder.
So for $6 (actually less since a kilo of moda costs about $600), you could have your month supply.
So that is a £340 or 5750% markup.
Big Pharma, raping you, me and every other person on the planet.
Cunts.
[/quote]
I was talking to my doctor about this, wondering why they didn’t lower prices to go after the larger lifestyle drug market (most insurance won’t cover moda for off-label do to cost as it stands now) and he said that it was because the US military is the largest purchaser of the stuff and will pay any price.
So in effect those of us who are Americans are getting screwed on both ends-- we pay the taxes for the $500 toilet seats and still have to pay the ripoff prices for moda.
Hello All just wanted to say that I have been reading this thread for quite awhile and find it to be one of the most engaging/helpful pieces of information around. I find it hilarious if you look at tonebone’s first posts and watch that as time passes and his experiments with the nootrops increase his posts got so much more in depth, articulate, and helpful! Also gotta commend everyone on the general tone of this thread. It’s just welcoming that I had to jump in!
My current stack is as follows:
roughly about 8 grams of piracetam 2x a day
one serving (10mg) of vinpo with my morning dose of piracetam
half a scoop of powerdrive with every dose of piracetam
good amount of glutamine throughout the day
and of course Spike tabs when needed.
Bushi it’s clear your knowledge on this topic is extremely vast and I was curious if you ever did get ahold of some vasopressin? I’ve read a lot about its instant mind clearing effects! Also doesn’t effect GH levels?
Also Bushi I’m 21 and this summer will be studying for the LSAT. If you could rec. the optimal nootr. stack for this kind of preparation i’d be beyond grateful. I just feel i’m not getting enough out of the pirac/vinpo!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I was going to suggest increasing the vinpo dramatically, and also dropping the dose of piracetam.
8g x 2 per day???
That’s a hell of a lot. Even if it is ‘safe’ it’s still a load for the kidneys and liver to deal with.
More vinpo should facilitate a lowering of dose, without a lessening of effect, regarding the pira.
For intense study, nothing beats an oxi (7-800mg) and ani (200-250mg) stack (with vinpo and huperzineA).
You should have a permanent intake of huperzine and vinpo IMO, and reserve the oxi/ani for 2 hour bursts. Now 2 hours might not sound like a lot, but when you only have to read something once for it to go in, then you can achieve a lot in that time, trust me.
Glad you like the thread so far. Well done for reading it all, lol.
Bushy[/quote]
Hey gang,
Wow how this mighty thread has come along!
I welcome nash too. I want to say that I honestly think we have the most cordial and “user friendly” group of guys that post here of any thread on the site. It’s a real accomplishment, and good feeling to see such cooperation and unabashed sharing of intelligent feedback etc.
On a note to this post at Nash. Yeah jeez, that seems like a hell of a lot of ptam to be ingesting to me too.
That’s the one thing I have against the Ptam, you have to take such a large dose compared to oxi. I got great effects from oxi, I believe I was taking around 900mg a pop before a class or test with great results, and no lethargy for me.
Thanks to Bushy for the ever expanding and articulate “british” take on the world of noot’s too!!
Carry on gentlemen,
ToneBone
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Got some Provigil and found an intelligent doctor yesterday! What a day!!
I got the Provogil for the V-Diet blahs, and am also doing Piracetam (1600 mg/ED). Bushmaster (;), how do you think the Oxi would fit in with that?
Note: I felt outright sympathy for our insurance company —one month of Provigil is $345. OMG![/quote]
Hey Head,
Glad you found your way over here. Hey, what exactly did you say to your doc to get the provigil?
That’s great to see you had success doing that, seems a bit rare in these parts. Personally I would swap the ptam out for oxi in the method Bushy described to nash, ie; pulsing it for like a 2-3 hour stream of improved consciousness and clarity.
ToneBone
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
noot’s
LMAO @ this, nice one TB.
Bushy[/quote]
When’s the next trip to Thailand, let’s go!!
I’ll have my “melanoTAN” soon.