[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
stumpy wrote:
My dad (50)was complaing recently about his short term memory so I got him started on a vinpo/ani protocol. Today was his first day,just got off the phone with him and he reports that “this stuff works great” Said he was able to just fly through his paperwork.
Now THIS is the kind of shit I like to hear!
Top marks for getting the old man on the noops. Now he won’t go doolally and spend your inheritance on nursing home fees 
Bushy[/quote]
ROFL
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
AlphaStar wrote:
djoh615893 wrote:
AlphaStar, begin on page one. I’m not being a dick, just stating that the answers are at the beginning of this thread, where the same question was posed.
I took your advice and along with some other research I found out a lot about nootropics. I have a few questions:
It seems as though the recatem drugs help with general cognitive abilities such as problem solving, memory retention, etc. Now I have noticed that there are both fat souluable ones and water soluble ones, are the water soluble ones like Oxi the ones that give you quicker results vs. the long term dosing vinpocetine, which is fat soluble?
I am on a college budget and am interested in the bare essentials that will help me focus better and be more alert, what would my best choices be and where can I find these?
I was thinking Oxiracetam in the short term as needed and Vinpocetine for the long term to improve cognitive abilities.
As far as a eugeroic I am unsure as to what would give me the best bang for my buck as I know Moda is expensive, would adrafinil be a better alternative?
To my mind, a nootropics stack that is ‘budget friendly’, would be vinpo and huperzine A.
Bushy[/quote]
I just picked up a bottle of each from that site, thanks Bushy can’t wait to see the results
bushy, I started taking vinpo and huperzine abouut a week ago and today I got some centro and ani. I ordered oxi but it has not arrived yet.
I take,
vinpo- 3x/day (10 mgs)
huprerzine- 1 50mcg in the am
ani- 1 750mg in the am
centro- not sure yet
I also want to add choline as recommended but I am not sure when and how much to take.
do you see anything I should adjust?
what do you know about phosphatidyl serine?
when will you start getting paid for your services on this thread?
thanks
[quote]JK44 wrote:
bushy, I started taking vinpo and huperzine abouut a week ago and today I got some centro and ani. I ordered oxi but it has not arrived yet.
I take,
vinpo- 3x/day (10 mgs)
huprerzine- 1 50mcg in the am
ani- 1 750mg in the am
centro- not sure yet
I also want to add choline as recommended but I am not sure when and how much to take.
do you see anything I should adjust?
what do you know about phosphatidyl serine?
when will you start getting paid for your services on this thread?
thanks
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JK what kind of results have you had from the Vinpo and huperzine so far? I just ordered exactly that today.
_AS
I can’t believe human science has come so far, look what awaits us:
Bushy, what kind of advancements will we seeing in the field of nootropics in the next few years, do you think they could be seen as illegal performance enhancers at some point??
Bushy,
I have contacted the DOC on the other forum as suggested, but he has not gotten back to me as of yet, hopefully he will respond to my PM and give me a bit of advice?
Thanks for the tip!!
[quote]AlphaStar wrote:
I can’t believe human science has come so far, look what awaits us:
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In my mind, the biggest problem with this would be that the regrown neurons wouldn’t establish the connections that their predecessors had. This would mean that all the information that was stored in these pathways would more than likely be lost and would need to be relearned. Oh well, at least I know I’m one step closer to living forever, whether I’m aware of that in the future or not 
On a side note, I just got some choline citrate, and I really like it. It definitely has stimulant properties, but it’s better than caffeine because I don’t crash and it doesn’t make me jittery. I was reading that if you take it for too long and at a high enough dose, you’ll start to exhume a fishy odor. Anyone heard of this and know how I can avoid it?
I’ve also retried kava kava, and found that it does give a very mild relaxation. I find that I sleep a little better when I take it. It’s nothing drastic, but it’s enough to convince me to finish the bottle I have.
Would huperzine be an effective addition to my repetoire? Since it inhibits acetylcholinesterase, I would think it would stack nicely with the choline I’m taking. Current stack looks like this:
In the morning before class:
30 mg vinpo
500 mg tyrosine
bacopa monnieri (don’t know the dosage; I take 2 caps)
During my first class:
coffee
1 tsp choline citrate (should be around 2.7g)
5g creatine
I also use oxiracetam when I feel that I need it, but this semester is actually pretty light, so I haven’t needed to use it much.
tone,
How’s physiology going for you? I’m not sure what your program is like compared to ours, but the class I’m taking is cake. 3 lectures a week and nothing else. The 1st test was moderately difficult, but now that I know what to expect, it should be smooth sailing.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
stumpy wrote:
My dad (50)was complaing recently about his short term memory so I got him started on a vinpo/ani protocol. Today was his first day,just got off the phone with him and he reports that “this stuff works great” Said he was able to just fly through his paperwork.
Now THIS is the kind of shit I like to hear!
Top marks for getting the old man on the noops. Now he won’t go doolally and spend your inheritance on nursing home fees
Bushy[/quote]
Now that was funny, thanks for the props man.
Hey guys,
I managed to get a hold of and try some methylphenidate (ritalin).
It had a pretty harsh stimulant feeling, and clarity or focus is definitely not the words I would use to describe it. It does speed up the thinking process pretty well, so I suppose if your goal was to do something FAST, it would be helpful. In spite of that, I don’t recommend it, as the anxiety it produces is very unpleasent, especially during the comedown.
My vote still goes to modafinil for the best stimulant by far.
Just a quick question about :
epa vs dha?
Which is better and why?
I mean with all the people on here touting Flameout (wich i take) is dha really better than epa? I have been reading alot of reviews that have been claiming that epa is better than dha up until ages of 40-60 then transfer back to a more dominant role of dha/epa in terms of %
so what do you guys feel is better a higher % of epa or DHA?
Thanks
J2048b
[quote]mtd25 wrote:
Mousse wrote:
Hey, I just thought of something…what about B-12?
I have some B12 caps and I find they make me more wide-eyed, but the B12 in liquid form such as spike shooters and other energy drinks will have more of a kick in it. Maybe it gets into your bloodstream quicker.
I’ve been paying attention to this thread, but its gotten too huge to read it all. I recently bought some l-tyrosine and DMAE to mix. Kind of like Powerdrive minus the 3rd ingredient. My main reason for taking these is to stay on top of my game and not get too run down mentally with the grueling 12 weeks of training I have in front of me. I’ll usually pop one each in the morning with some TRIBEX and it seems to keep me focused at work and not too tired after training. I’ll definately have to try some of the others on this thread.
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No offense, but if you had read about another page before this post you would have known it was a joke.
This thread is getting a bit out of hand ToneBone. I mean it’s remarkable the amount of intelligent dialogue it has spurred but more and more I find myself getting lost when trying to go back and re-read something as a cross reference. I suppose there is nothing we can do about it though.
As I said before ToneBone…great thread.
Most of this has been covered, but I found this to be a nice compendium of sorts. It’s just a collection of various articles on nootropics, with small blurbs about each nootropic and its effectiveness.
[quote]Thomas Gabriel wrote:
Hey guys,
I managed to get a hold of and try some methylphenidate (ritalin).
It had a pretty harsh stimulant feeling, and clarity or focus is definitely not the words I would use to describe it. It does speed up the thinking process pretty well, so I suppose if your goal was to do something FAST, it would be helpful. In spite of that, I don’t recommend it, as the anxiety it produces is very unpleasent, especially during the comedown.
My vote still goes to modafinil for the best stimulant by far. [/quote]
Stimulants like mp aren’t a great idea for someone with anxiety issues. Basic generic Mp feels fairly harsh in general as Rx stims go. The time release formulations of these things don’t just exist for convenience alone.
Has anyone tried Ibedenone and what has been your experience and any sides? Thanks for any help.
bushy, none of these compounds are similar to ritalin are they? I took that crap before and I think it made me kind of “weird”, to put it mildly.
I was more referring to the method of action rather than the possible negative side effects.
(when comparing any of these to ritalin)
if anyone knows I would appreciate it.