Brain Function Boosters

Nutrition
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[quote]D3HT09 wrote:
Hi Tone,
Thanks for the response. I think that there was one particular papraraph that hits home.

“I had burned so much weed for so long that it was getting me baked very quickly and short term memory was damn near immediately affected after toking. This was a reversal, as for a long time it wouldn’t be overly potent like that. That and it was actually starting to make me stutter slightly which was odd and very alarming to me also”.

This is exactly where I was when I finally gave up the habit. I have always concidered myself a fairly eloquent and verbose individual. But, towards the end of things, I noticed I had a really tough time getting words out of my mouth. I have never stuttered (regularly) in my life. But this stuff was making it difficult to form complete sentences. Oh well, it’s all over now, all I can do is hope to reverse, or get around some of the leftover fuzziness.

          Wow, that's a trip. I was wondering if I would ever hear of anyone else with that symptom of overuse. It hasn't happened much since stopping and taking the noot's, but occasionaly will do it to a much lesser degree than before, like when I'm particularly excited about a subject, or trying to explain something that's involved, ie: not just small talk, but technical or detailed talk.

        Sounds great to hear you will do them seperate, that's what I would do also if I had both.

        Can't wait to hear about your experience with both and hopefully the Adra will compare with positive results, and few if any sides. I'm hoping you only get the sides from continuous dosing daily for a while. That way we could all probably get away with the lesser expensive Moda cousin by just using it on different days of the week when studying or taking a class.

                    ciao,
                    ToneBone
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[quote]Epimetheus wrote:
D3HT09 wrote:
Hi Epimetheus,
Good eye. yes, the picture is of “Booze Hound”. It was either that picture or “Enrage” (red head with steam coming out). Booze Hound seemed better for this time of year (I always end up doing a bit of drinking during the holidays). Have you played Bioshock yet? I’m going through it for the second time now.

Just finished my second play through a couple days ago. It’s easily game of the year in my mind, although mass effect comes in close second. The ONLY problem I have with the game is the ending. It’s very unfulfilling. A 2 minute clip doesn’t really qualify as an ending, imo. Have you played it through on hard? Taking down the big daddies requires significantly more planning, which makes the encounters a lot more fun. I like to lure them right next to a turret then hit them with sustained bursts of liquid nitrogen while the turret slowly shatters them. Very cost effecient in comparison to using electric gel.

Alright, now back to the topic at hand. I just got some bacopa monnieri and kava kava. I was feeling the stress heavily yesterday, so I was relieved when I found the bacopa had arrived. It was definitely nice; I’ve been stressing out a lot recently, so my relationship with my cortisol levels has become quite intimate. It’s difficult to explain, but it seemed to block that sharp feeling you get in your gut when you think of something particularly stress-inducing. It didn’t eliminate the anxiety that was present before I took it, however, so it’s definitely something to take early in the morning. I took the kava kava a couple of hours before bed. I personally felt nothing out of the ordinary from it, but I took it shortly after a meal. I’m going to take another tonight on an empty stomach and see how that goes. [/quote]

            Hmmmm, cool Epi,

keep an eye on your results with the bacopa, I want to check it out, but haven’t gotten it yet due to finances. Probably after Santa puts some coin in my pocket, as I have some other obligations to take care of too, but the bacopa should be obtainable then since it’s not too expensive.

                great to hear,
                  ToneBone
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              Just to let you know again, tried to post but didn't come up. There is a new supplement at xxxxxx that has a killer lineup of nootropics in my opinion.

     It's called "Brain Octane". It has 6weeks of servings, 4 caps/twice a day. 350 caps.

Piracetam: 2000mg
Choline Bitartrate: 750mg
Acetyl-L-Carnitine: 750mg
TriMethylGlycine: 500mg
Alpha-GPC: 275mg@50%
Dimethylaminoethanol: 250mg
L-Carnosine: 100mg
L-Phenylalanine: 100mg
L-Tyrosine: 100mg

                 It's only 50 bucks for a 6 week supply. I am going to use this as my main base for next semester, and supplement this with some Vinpo, and/or Adrafinil or Moda if I get my hands on either one. But I tell you, this looks good for a combo. I don't usually see any racetams in this kind of combo.

            Anyway, let me know if you want to know where to get it, I don't think the powers that be like us posting competitors.

EDIT: Oh the hell with it, go to superiornutraceuticals.com
and you’ll see it there. This is a great place to get stuff, especially the powdered BCAA’S at an unbeatable price and quality. In my humble opinion.
Cheers guys,
ToneBone

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I have to admit that this is one of the best threads I have ever seen on this site. I sincerely appreciate all the work done on here by InTheZone, Bushy, Schwarz, etc.
I have one question, is there a difference in quality between Choline Bitartrate and Citrate? If I were to only choose one which should I choose, and why? I notice that everyone here has chosen Bitartrate. Just curious as to why.

Thanks for your help guys,
J

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I haven’t actually read the entire thread yet, but does anyone here know of any places where I can get this stuff with a PayPal account (lame, I know, but I’m paranoid).

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Hi everyone,

I finally recieved my latest shipment of bacopa, aniracetam, and ginko.

I haven’t tried the ani yet, as my term has just finished. I will however be going over some lecture notes during the holidays, so I’ll try ani by itself and also stacked with oxi.

I must be a total stressed out bastard, because bacopa does very little for me. I still want to kill people a lot, even with 500mg in me (it’s a 20% powder).

It does take the edge off ever so slightly, however this could be placebo. I’m going to try upping the dose gradually, because I’ll definitely need some anxiolytic help on christmas day.

Ginko did bugger all, except taste orrid. I’d put the taste up there with ALCAR. I have given this only one try though, so to be fair I’ll finish the tub and report back :wink:

Dave

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:
Hi everyone,

I finally recieved my latest shipment of bacopa, aniracetam, and ginko.

I haven’t tried the ani yet, as my term has just finished. I will however be going over some lecture notes during the holidays, so I’ll try ani by itself and also stacked with oxi.

I must be a total stressed out bastard, because bacopa does very little for me. I still want to kill people a lot, even with 500mg in me (it’s a 20% powder).

It does take the edge off ever so slightly, however this could be placebo. I’m going to try upping the dose gradually, because I’ll definitely need some anxiolytic help on christmas day.

Ginko did bugger all, except taste orrid. I’d put the taste up there with ALCAR. I have given this only one try though, so to be fair I’ll finish the tub and report back :wink:

Dave

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        LOL..good enough Dave. Interesting and I appreciate your reporting in on stuff on the thread. I am thinking of getting the brain booster I talked about on sup....com, check back a few posts here..it looks good, only I don't know what fillers are being used and if it's chinese powder or what.

Oh well the bcaa’s haven’t dropped me yet, but you never know with those guys. there are no exp dates, no batch numbers, and no made in … anywhere, the most generic labels I have ever seen, which isn’t sitting good with me since the chinese are putting all manner of crazy toxic shit in things these days to make a buck.

            Anyway, good luck on the big day my friend, and drop by my new thread in our hangout to check out my new routine and special "supplementation"..lol.

                  ToneBone
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I’ve been taking adrafinil for a few weeks now. I was interested in something that would facilitate prolonged concentration and enhance cognition. So far, it does this well. The initial dose really fired me up (2*300mg), and caused some undesired side effects; I couldn’t shake the thought that my stomach was melting. Subsequent days I kept to the lower dose (300 mg), and cycled off on the weekends. No other sides apparent.
For me, adrafinil seems like a good choice for extended mental clarity, especially in conjunction with physical exertion, or the equally taxing effort of writing for several hours each day.

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Hey guys, I tried looking through the thread if anyone is familiar with physicianformulas’ mind-power-rx product.

90 pills for 35 $ and one pill has:

Acetyl-l-Carnitine - 25 mg*
Carnosine - 5 mg*
Choline Bitartrate - 25 mg*
DMAE - 25 mg*
Trimethylglycine (TMG) - 25 mg*
Tyrosine - 25 mg*
Vinpocetine - 1 mg *
Vitamin-B12 - 30 mcg (as cyanocobalamin)
Pantothenic acid - 30 mg

Plus 140 mg of a proprietary blend:
Ginkgo Biloba leaf extract, Mucuna-Pruriens extract, Ashwagandha extract, Bacopa Monniera extract, Gotu-Kola extract, Reishi extract, Ginseng extract, Fo-Ti extract, and Rhodiola extract.

Seems to have quite many good things but the mg amounts aren’t really mind whopping.

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Pramiracetam is an excellent nootropic. I find it more subtle than either ani- or oxiracetam, and more consistently effective. While ani & oxi both felt stimulating at first, their results seem to decline over time. Pram is less dramatically discernible, but conveys a pleasant, calm lucidity.

Generally I take 300 mg of pram each day, divided into 2 doses of 150 mg each. Separating the doses by about 5 or so hours provides a steady stream of potent nootropics.

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I’ve given Phenibut a fair run over the last couple of weeks with doses from 250 mg to 1 gram, usually taken at night. I can feel the anxiolytic effects in the higher doses, especially if I’m just chilling in a sofa listening to music. I think lower amounts would be beneficial during a stressful day if you wanted to take the edge off.

Also I sleep longer when I take it at night, usually coupled with crazy dreams. No side effects to really report, except when I take a gram I feel alittle “tipsy” with my motor control a little out of wack. Havn’t woken up with the “phenibut hangover” yet, but I have never taken more than a gram and don’t really feel the need to. Actually if I use it close enough to bedtime I’ll wake up and still feel calm for a good part of the morning :slight_smile:

I’m still up in the air about whether I like Bacopa or not. Have been taking Planetary Formulas’ Bacopa Extract 450 mg at 20% bacosides. Sometimes it seems little things bother me less durring the day, but a few times I landed up blowing up over something trivial. I had to catch myself and wonder why I was getting so pissed off over something insignificant. I’ll mess around with the dose a bit and see what happens.

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Hi Everyone,
I got a present in the mail a few days ago. My Adrafinil arrived :wink: I have been waiting a little while for a sleep deprived day to take my first dose. I am curious as to how much of an effect 1 pill will have on me with little sleep.

I didn’t get hardly any sleep last night. I just got back into town after a funeral for a friend. So naturally all I could really do last night was stare at the ceiling, and lose precious sleep time. I only ended up getting 3 hours of sleep. Very tired and dragging a** when I woke up (as is expected). I had the usual breakfast (minus the coffee)and popped 1 pill with 8oz of water before leaving for work.

I stayed a bit drowsy and “heavy headed” for about an hour. I have to say that this stuff can sneak up on a guy. At about the hour mark, I was in the middle of a conversation with someone when I noticed that it wasn’t taking any effort at all to get the words out. Usually when I’m sleep deprived, I won’t talk much. I kinda keep my head down, and do what I need to do until I can get into bed and sleep again.

I am also sort of grouchy without enough sleep. I just realized in the middle of the conversation that I was no longer edgy and grouchy, and that words and conversation flowed normally. The person I was talking with actually made a small and subtle reaction at this time. She must have noticed a small change in my demeanor around the same time that I did. It is now 8 hours later, and I am still going strong.

The effects for me are like nothing I have ever experienced before. Stimulants of any kind (including my usual cup of coffee), usually give me a small dose of anxiety and jitters. Amphetamines will make me jump a mile at loud noises and surprises. Ephedrine tends to make me really anxious and angry at the drop of a hat (and this is at only 1/4 tablet). Colombian Marching Powder :wink: will have me talking a mile a minute and grinding my teeth to dust (with a GIANT smile on my face).

This Adrafinil is different. I have no jitters, I am not grouchy at all, and I don’t have that racy feeling (body and heart rate)that I usually get from strong coffee. I still feel like I need sleep, but somehow I’m still clear headed and working my a** off. It feels very clean and almost mellow to me at the same time.

Much more research is required on my part. I will continue with 1 pill a day for Friday. I probably won’t take any this week-end, so I can relax a bit (although I think relaxing while on this stuff wouldn’t be too tough). I will continue with 1 pill again on Monday, and then possibly ramp it up to 2 pills spaced 5 hours apart for Tuesday, to see what happens.

So far I am liking this, but it is only my first time experimenting. I think that only time and further experimentation will tell if this is something I might stick with. So far, all is peachy.

Peace,

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Anyone have experience with Strattera? It can be obtained at foreign pharmacies for a very low price.

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Nice report D3HT09. The Adrafinil looks promising.

If you decide to use it on a regular basis, at least in the short term, let us know how you cycle it.

I would love to have something that would make “words flow better” without jacking me up. I’m not a very talkative person so anything that makes me more sociable is a good thing (that’s not fermented :wink:

I’m a regular coffee/caffeine drinker and its … alright. Gets me up in the mornin’ but anything more then a few cups and I turn into a sweaty mess. Also it tends to peak and wear off quick.

To bad us yanks can’t get the real thing, legally at least. Capital G has to get their hands into everything :stuck_out_tongue:

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Anyone have experiences with Idebenone, specifically dosing it? I’ve seen number all over the map from 30 to 400mg a day. I’m taking it in addition to Vinpo, 50mcg of Huperzine(imho KEY to any nootropic stack), Piracetam (would love it to be Oxi but $$$ is a concern, guess I’ll see how different they are) and alpha lipoic acid. The ALA was on sale at vitamin shoppe and I figured I’d give it a shot, supposed to have some memory enhancing effects. Anyone experiment with this? I’m trying 300mg a day, we’ll see how that goes.

I’ve also got some Bacopa, Aswh$#@#$%@Wanda and Rhodiola which were all pretty disappointing. The literature
(pubmed) all supports them having neuroprotective and cognitive enhancing effects but I felt no real benefits (stacked or individual.)

Glad to see my favorite thread getting some action again.

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lol, just thought I’d share. I tried searching for moda on ebay, not really sure if I’d actually see any or not, but this was the only link that came up.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Drug-Rep-Provigil-modafinil-Tablets-Promo-plates-set_W0QQitemZ290185125602QQihZ019QQcategoryZ967QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQtrksidZp1638.m118.l1247QQcmdZViewItem

It made me laugh.

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[quote]BIGZEUS wrote:
Nice report D3HT09. The Adrafinil looks promising.

If you decide to use it on a regular basis, at least in the short term, let us know how you cycle it.

I would love to have something that would make “words flow better” without jacking me up. I’m not a very talkative person so anything that makes me more sociable is a good thing (that’s not fermented :wink:

I’m a regular coffee/caffeine drinker and its … alright. Gets me up in the mornin’ but anything more then a few cups and I turn into a sweaty mess. Also it tends to peak and wear off quick.

To bad us yanks can’t get the real thing, legally at least. Capital G has to get their hands into everything :p[/quote]

          Zeus, you should be able to get the Adrafinil with no problems, as it isn't a scheduled drug like it's cousin Moda is. It's quite a lot cheaper too. I may have to get some with our friends positive experience with it here. Shit when I was on the Moda, I noticed that any time during, I could kind of "step out" of whatever I was doing at the time and just chill with no effort at all. And sleeping was never a problem either. The stuff is really amazing. 

                    TBN