holy moley lol so much information in all 3 threads lol i started working at vitamin shoppe about a month ago and started to stumble upon huperzine which lead me to research more on noottropics! im a premed student graduating with my biology degree this spring and wish i would hav found about this earlier lol ive been relying on adderal for the past 2 years and now i want something more natural and less harmfull.
with adderall everything was great while studying but retaining the information was something hard even when studying ahead. with simple courses it was easy with basic definitions but as mechanisms and more complex stuff got involved i had to take more adderall to compensate!
so far i have ordered pram, pir, oxi, sub, ani, pea, 1,3dmaa, horden, and vin to experiment with.
BBB is freaking amazing and i would like to thank you for contributing so much! i was also thinking of becoming a chiropractor but they blocked out all new chiros from insurance and idk but looks like its getting harder to make money in the us as a chiro with big pharm i truly do want to be a chiro tho. i will be giving your stack a try and ill try to log everything! so far this semester im taking physics 2, human phys, and plant molec genetics.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
ok guys i kind of have a predicament aka i’m screwed. would appreciate some input…
the deal is i have an upper level class where my prof just told us our tests are going to be short answer and definition based BUT if our answers deviate from his exact words in the slightest we get 0%. tests are only 10 questions so complete accuracy is crucial!
i have been taking neurostim for the last month and will continue but was wondering what you guys would recommend to take before this lecture (75 mins 2x per week) where 90% of the course material will come from
from recent posts i was thinking:
300mg prami
300mg DMAE
10mg Vinpo[/quote]
Hi, i’m nearing the end of my neurostim, the results have been good academically but i’ve not really noticed the clarity,vivid colours etc that some have reported.
I’m now not sure whether I should stick with ns or give pram and dmae a go, i’m mainly looking for focus and enhanced memory retention.I’m also planning on getting some oxi, would this be ok just to take as and when to give a boost ie when revising?
I also fancy adding some picamilon as I notice the best results when i’m relaxed, will this work ok with other noots and not inhibit their effects?
I’ve only ordered from Mindnutrition in the past, are these the best in terms of price as i’d be happy to order in larger quantities to bring the cost down.
[quote]Wooderson wrote:
Hi, i’m nearing the end of my neurostim, the results have been good academically but i’ve not really noticed the clarity,vivid colours etc that some have reported.
I’m now not sure whether I should stick with ns or give pram and dmae a go, i’m mainly looking for focus and enhanced memory retention.I’m also planning on getting some oxi, would this be ok just to take as and when to give a boost ie when revising?
I also fancy adding some picamilon as I notice the best results when i’m relaxed, will this work ok with other noots and not inhibit their effects?
I’ve only ordered from Mindnutrition in the past, are these the best in terms of price as i’d be happy to order in larger quantities to bring the cost down.
Cheers[/quote]
Just ordered some Picamilon myself to arrive tomorrow.
The Neurostim has an amazing effect on me - alot more concentrated focus - though sometimes I get “too” focused which is an odd feeling.
Looking forward to the Oxi - for rote learning it does seem to be the best advised.
Just ordered some Picamilon myself to arrive tomorrow.
The Neurostim has an amazing effect on me - alot more concentrated focus - though sometimes I get “too” focused which is an odd feeling.
Looking forward to the Oxi - for rote learning it does seem to be the best advised.
Regards[/quote]
How much neurostim were you taking? I’m thinking of sticking with it as a base as it’s good value as you get the DMAE and Vin, and stacking Prami on top.Then i’ll use Oxi for special occasions when I need an extra kick.
I’ve been taking Picamilon for the past week. I’ve tried doses between 100mg and 400mg. Other than 100mg late at night to wind down, I’m not noticing any relaxed but aware focused energy type of effect at higher doses.
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
I’ve been taking Picamilon for the past week. I’ve tried doses between 100mg and 400mg. Other than 100mg late at night to wind down, I’m not noticing any relaxed but aware focused energy type of effect at higher doses.[/quote]
L-Dee - I have spent the last hour furiously (?) reading re picamilon.
From anecdotal records of other people using it - 300mg seems to be the recommended amount and is better served with the addition of L-thenine.
It does seem to work better with those of us averse to mass social gatherings and prone to hyperness etc.
ie If your a well adjusted person it would seem to not have that big a discernible effect on you.
Please note these are just gatherings of other people’s usage and what I can gather - I hope you can feel the effects.
Further it would be the Niacan part you would feel more - but again it may take a week - two weeks to notice perhaps… on my Neurostim bottle it does say allow 3-4 weeks (up to 6) for full effect.
Jeez this was meant to be a 2 line sentence … haha
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
I’ve been taking Picamilon for the past week. I’ve tried doses between 100mg and 400mg. Other than 100mg late at night to wind down, I’m not noticing any relaxed but aware focused energy type of effect at higher doses.[/quote]
L-Dee - I have spent the last hour furiously (?) reading re picamilon.
From anecdotal records of other people using it - 300mg seems to be the recommended amount and is better served with the addition of L-thenine.
It does seem to work better with those of us averse to mass social gatherings and prone to hyperness etc.
ie If your a well adjusted person it would seem to not have that big a discernible effect on you.
Please note these are just gatherings of other people’s usage and what I can gather - I hope you can feel the effects.
Further it would be the Niacan part you would feel more - but again it may take a week - two weeks to notice perhaps… on my Neurostim bottle it does say allow 3-4 weeks (up to 6) for full effect.
Jeez this was meant to be a 2 line sentence … haha
Vol.[/quote]
Yes I believe I read about taking it with L-Theanine too.
I also remember reading that for some, the effects were instantly noticeable.
I guess I’ll have to wait and see. I’m far from being the most relaxed person I know so I thought it might help.
How much neurostim were you taking? I’m thinking of sticking with it as a base as it’s good value as you get the DMAE and Vin, and stacking Prami on top.Then i’ll use Oxi for special occasions when I need an extra kick.
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2 in the morning (6am), 1 @ 9am, 1 @ 2pm, 1 @ 5pm
ie 5 per day.
I feel alot more alert now and way more focused.
I was quite prone to distraction and doing 500 things but not able to complete them all.
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
my Neurostim bottle it does say allow 3-4 weeks (up to 6) for full effect.
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good to know. i was wondering about that… think i’m hitting the four week mark at 1 dose (2 caps per day) today[/quote]
Lol I didn’t even remember I wrote that…
I’m increasing my dose to 5-6 a day now. Though I’m expecting the prami to arrive today so I’m not sure I might just start that first and go from there.
[quote]Wooderson wrote:
Hi, i’m nearing the end of my neurostim, the results have been good academically but i’ve not really noticed the clarity,vivid colours etc that some have reported.
I’m now not sure whether I should stick with ns or give pram and dmae a go, i’m mainly looking for focus and enhanced memory retention.I’m also planning on getting some oxi, would this be ok just to take as and when to give a boost ie when revising?
I also fancy adding some picamilon as I notice the best results when i’m relaxed, will this work ok with other noots and not inhibit their effects?
I’ve only ordered from Mindnutrition in the past, are these the best in terms of price as i’d be happy to order in larger quantities to bring the cost down.
Cheers[/quote]
If the NS is working for you stick with in. When you have extra cash pick up Oxi and Pram. Good thing about those noots is they can be “1 hit wonders”. I’m taking physics right now so I need more logic and reason so I take pram, but have oxi on hand for when shit needs to just get memorized.
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
You started high and decreased your dosage?
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Ye as I said the logic I applied was it’s max 6 a day - taking 4-6 weeks for full effects… so like superdosing vitamins at the start go get to the acquired level - I applied that to NS
Aniracetam and Vinpocetine are normally felt within a few days, aniracetam can take up to a week or so, but DMAE typically takes 3-4 weeks to reach optimal levels where one can feel the physical, mildly stimulating effects.
Some people actually found the 100mg Pica dose makes them a little too relaxed, it doesn’t do much for me though. The alternative is a Bacopa and/or PS combination which I personally do like.
i truly do want to be a chiro tho. i will be giving your stack a try and ill try to log everything! so far this semester im taking physics 2, human phys, and plant molec genetics.