No, I wake up feeling more rested. When I have dreams, remembering them has never been a problem for me.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
No, I wake up feeling more rested. When I have dreams, remembering them has never been a problem for me.[/quote]
90% kidding. I tried it last night and felt a difference. More dreams and better rested. Thanks for the tip!
I found before that phosphatidylcholine could make up for a bad night’s sleep, so I have no trouble accepting this.
We should put together a BFB review, listing different protocols, what not to do, etc.
I’ve been taking centrophenoxine since last Friday with my breakfast, building up to 3g (first day 0.5g, then 1g, 2g, 3g). I also have ani+vinpo+dmae with that meal (and another dose later during the day).
The main effect that I have noticed that I cannot attribute to other things that I’m doing right now is that my senses seem sharper. Not superhumanly sharp, more like finally waking up and realizing how dulled everything appeared.
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Visually, everything is sharper, more 3D, I notice more moving objects at the same time (e.g. people in the street). I also seem to notice things in the distance more. Not in the sense that my eyesight has improved, but rather in that I pay more attention to them
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My senses of smell and taste seem better
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I seem to be better at analyzing sound, especially when it comes to music - I hear more instruments at once without having to shift my focus
I would describe the whole thing either as being more awake or as being able to handle more input.
I’ve also been an absolute working machine the last couple of mornings, but I can’t 100% attribute that to centro, since I’ve also been having Spike regularly (I don’t normally have any substantial amounts of caffeine).
Hi,
My last year of college is nigh and I’ve decided to do everything I can to come out on top. I want to try out the basic reccomended stack:
Aniracetam: 2-3X ED 600mg
DMAE 2-3X ED 350mg .
Vinpocetine: 2-3X ED 10mg
oxiracetam (600-800mg) before data-learning sessions
Make sure you take them with food and fat.
Has anyone tried taken them(nootropics) sublingually? I really like the taste of the DMAE(bitartate) and I started letting it get mixed with the saliva in my mouth.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]BiP wrote:
- Visually, everything is sharper, more 3D, I notice more moving objects at the same time (e.g. people in the street). I also seem to notice things in the distance more. Not in the sense that my eyesight has improved, but rather in that I pay more attention to them
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I get this effect also.
BBB[/quote]
I think the fact that 4 years of university-provided food caused my taste buds and nose to shut down out of sheer horror allowed centro to switch them back on, leading to the other effect 
PS I’m only half joking. The food in my college was famous for being bad.
[quote]BiP wrote:
I’ve been taking centrophenoxine since last Friday with my breakfast, building up to 3g (first day 0.5g, then 1g, 2g, 3g). I also have ani+vinpo+dmae with that meal (and another dose later during the day).
The main effect that I have noticed that I cannot attribute to other things that I’m doing right now is that my senses seem sharper. Not superhumanly sharp, more like finally waking up and realizing how dulled everything appeared.
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Visually, everything is sharper, more 3D, I notice more moving objects at the same time (e.g. people in the street). I also seem to notice things in the distance more. Not in the sense that my eyesight has improved, but rather in that I pay more attention to them
-
My senses of smell and taste seem better
-
I seem to be better at analyzing sound, especially when it comes to music - I hear more instruments at once without having to shift my focus
I would describe the whole thing either as being more awake or as being able to handle more input.
I’ve also been an absolute working machine the last couple of mornings, but I can’t 100% attribute that to centro, since I’ve also been having Spike regularly (I don’t normally have any substantial amounts of caffeine).[/quote]
It seems you’ve also been a SPENDING machine lately, LOL.
LOW-dose lithium for people who do NOT have bi-polar.
I came across a comment on another website where a guy claimed that a study had found that more lithium in drinking water coincided with less murders and suicides (Texas). So, a web search quickly turned up a two part newsletter article about low-dose lithium by Jonathon V. Wright MD of the Tahoma (Wash.) Clinic. He convinced me to try it. I went and got a bottle from a local vitamin store; 5 mg lithium aspartate.
Been on it 6 weeks now, results are mostly good. Mainly, easier to achieve and maintain a positive metal state. (I have been depressed before, but never manic.) Also easier to express myself (usually a problem for me to overcome that inertia, I’m introverted.)
Note: I found it took my body a few weeks to get used to this nutrient. A bit “too much” energy, increased insomnia. Recommend every other day at first.
[quote]SuperFast wrote:
It seems you’ve also been a SPENDING machine lately, LOL.
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It’s all within the budget, my friend 
Well, centro and the increased dose of vinpo+ani+dmae aren’t, but it’s not that significant a difference, plus they are meant to help with my PhD and the money is coming out of my studentship, so it makes sense
could someone email or PM the best place to purchase the basic stack?
[quote]SuperFast wrote:
LOW-dose lithium for people who do NOT have bi-polar.
I came across a comment on another website where a guy claimed that a study had found that more lithium in drinking water coincided with less murders and suicides (Texas). So, a web search quickly turned up a two part newsletter article about low-dose lithium by Jonathon V. Wright MD of the Tahoma (Wash.) Clinic. He convinced me to try it. I went and got a bottle from a local vitamin store; 5 mg lithium aspartate.
Been on it 6 weeks now, results are mostly good. Mainly, easier to achieve and maintain a positive metal state. (I have been depressed before, but never manic.) Also easier to express myself (usually a problem for me to overcome that inertia, I’m introverted.)
Note: I found it took my body a few weeks to get used to this nutrient. A bit “too much” energy, increased insomnia. Recommend every other day at first.[/quote]
Yes, I too have stumbled upon this info…I tried 5mgs of lithium aspartate and it gave me brain fog thought it was too much for me, but I hear this only happens when you first start taking it and you get over that, but anyway I am currently getting 1mg per day of lithium sulfate monohydrate, sometimes 2x per day, and it does seem to make a difference.
[quote]middleageguy wrote:
[quote]SuperFast wrote:
LOW-dose lithium for people who do NOT have bi-polar.
I came across a comment on another website where a guy claimed that a study had found that more lithium in drinking water coincided with less murders and suicides (Texas). So, a web search quickly turned up a two part newsletter article about low-dose lithium by Jonathon V. Wright MD of the Tahoma (Wash.) Clinic. He convinced me to try it. I went and got a bottle from a local vitamin store; 5 mg lithium aspartate.
Been on it 6 weeks now, results are mostly good. Mainly, easier to achieve and maintain a positive metal state. (I have been depressed before, but never manic.) Also easier to express myself (usually a problem for me to overcome that inertia, I’m introverted.)
Note: I found it took my body a few weeks to get used to this nutrient. A bit “too much” energy, increased insomnia. Recommend every other day at first.[/quote]
Yes, I too have stumbled upon this info…I tried 5mgs of lithium aspartate and it gave me brain fog thought it was too much for me, but I hear this only happens when you first start taking it and you get over that, but anyway I am currently getting 1mg per day of lithium sulfate monohydrate, sometimes 2x per day, and it does seem to make a difference.[/quote]
I’ve been taking about 1/2tsp a day of ConcenTRACE trace minerals, which contains Magnesium, Chloride, Sodium, Potassium, Sulfate, Lithium, and Boron.
I have noticed a small increased in mental clarity and reduction of brain fog with it.
Any comments on this?
I have used Vinpocetine on a number of occasions, for both short/intermittent periods as well as a few stints of prolonged use (20-30mg/day for 8-10 days), and have experimented with a range of dosages (2.5-35mg in small increments). I found it to be exceptionally effective on a very short-term basis, particularly for that last minute boost in a study session or during exercise. Its short half-life and myriad of side-effects prevent regular use, and eventually banished this one to the oddities shelf (with S.O.D, phenylpiracetam, modafinil…etc.). Vinpocetine and Piracetam are apples and oranges-- both nootropics but worlds apart.
Primarily, Vinpocetine acts as a vasodilator by inhibiting voltage-gated Na+ channels. This effect occurs throughout the body, not just in the brain. Some anecdotal evidence suggests that this may be beneficial in certain forms of exercise as well as in cognition- hence its employment as a nootropic.
In my experience, Vinpocetine has the shortest half-life of any nootropic I have encountered. In particular, the effects of Vinpocetine appear to be completely abolished by the t+1hr mark. Redosing has slightly diminished effect but certainly works, though definitely compounds the after-effects. This cessation of effects is usually accompanied by a marked ‘come-down’ or ‘crash,’ characterized by lethargy, anhedonia, and in higher-doses, some pretty gnarly head-aches. Its temporarily vasorelaxant properties responsible for relaxation of smooth muscle seem to rebound upon the come-down, which may be responsible for the head-ache, which at doses above 15mg can be pretty severe and not treatable with NSAIDs.
Vinpocetine has been shown to decrease catecholamine levels in the brain by enhancing metabolic breakdown-- this includes some of the more important neurotransmitters such as Dopamine, and may result in depression. I have noticed that after prolonged or frequent use of Vinpocetine, my general mood is characterized by notably flat-affect, amotivation, and a generally anhedonic nature.
In other words, if taken regularly, this one should be ingested concomitantly with some catecholamine precursors such as L-DOPA, which may have side-effects of its own-- best to be avoided, in my opinion. No direct effect on acetylcholine utilization has been shown or noted, so a choline supplement is probably unnecessary.
That was from a different forum. The link was removed
Yeah, I’ve never heard of/experienced a crash from it. Just seeing if any here have.
I also ordered a stack of Aniracetam, Vinpocetine, and DMAE. I will report back on how it works.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
Make sure you take them with food and fat.
Has anyone tried taken them(nootropics) sublingually? I really like the taste of the DMAE(bitartate) and I started letting it get mixed with the saliva in my mouth.[/quote]
I have been experimenting with different ways to get more bang for the buck from racetams, especially since they are getting more difficult to obtain here in the U.S. I did see this coming and stocked up on Piracetam, if used sparingly my supply will last a couple of years. My latest experiment is to empty 2 capsules of pira and take sublingually, then follow with a shotglass or two of pink grapefruit juice, since grapefruit juice is known to inhibit the rate of breakdown of many drugs in the body. This seems to make my no-ops stack last much longer and I feel the intensity is also greater…if you try this cut your normal 'racetam dose in half first, keeping vinpo, galantamine, etc the same.
That’s good to know about the pink grapefruit juice, thanks for that.
Just thinking out loud here but since the -racetams effect is on the brain and if you’re taking it sublingually it would avoid the GI system, and you’d be digesting the shot of grapefruit juice, would they even have a chance to interact? Like the -racetam is working on the brain, and not circulating throughout the body, while the grapefruit juice is circulating throughout the body but not making it past the blood-brain barrier.
Forgive me if I’m incorrect in my thinking, I’m not very schooled on this, and just cross-examining with what I’ve read.
Either way, I’ll definitely check it out, and see if it works for me.