[quote]Broseph wrote:
Anyone get headaches from vinpocetine?
Since I’ve started taking it (a little over a week) I get a headache each and everytime I pop a 10mg.[/quote]
No, I take a lot and I have no issues. It’s been said many times in this thread, if something doesn’t work for you, don’t use it. Vinpo is a nice staple, but a nice racetam and a choline source will work pretty well all on their own.
There are many well-informed contributors to threads like these, and I know that at least a few MDs and RDs frequent this site in general. Does anyone know if there is a Neurologist there amongst the ranks?
[quote]bam7196 wrote:
There are many well-informed contributors to threads like these, and I know that at least a few MDs and RDs frequent this site in general. Does anyone know if there is a Neurologist there amongst the ranks?[/quote]
Get back to me in about 5 years…
Just my 2 cents.
THE most powerful memory enhancer known to science and THE most important brain hormone.
Pregnenolone is a precursor to the bodyâ??s other naturally occurring hormones, including dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), progesterone, estrogen, testosterone, and cortisol.1 Pregnenolone is synthesized directly from cholesterol and is responsible for countless functions in our bodies.
By the age of 75, however, the bodyâ??s production of this valuable hormone has declined by as much as 60%,2 and levels of the hormones for which pregnenolone is a precursor have also diminished.
Supplemental pregnenolone is molecularly identical to the pregnenolone that the body makes naturally.3 The raw material to create pregnenolone comes from wild yams (Dioscorea villosa), which are grown in Mexico and other tropical regions throughout the world.
Pregnenolone is the precursor (building-block) for all other steroid hormones. It is converted directly into DHEA and/or progesterone. DHEA converts to testosterone and estrogens; progesterone converts to estrogens, cortisol, and aldosterone. It is this succession of conversions that makes human life possible. Without pregnenolone, there can be no human steroid hormone production.
Unfortunately, the advent of the ‘wonder drug’ cortisone (Cortisol) in the 1950s caused pregnenolone to be passed by for arthritis treatment, since pregnenolones results were much slower to manifest. ‘Coincidentally’, pregnenolone couldnt be patented by the drug companies whereas synthetic variants of cortisone could be (and were) patented.
By the time the nightmarish side-effects of excessive cortisone were widely known by the medical community in the 1960s (these side effects could include psychotic breakdown, adrenal failure, and even death), pregnenolone had been completely forgotten.
Morning is the perfect time to take pregnenolone, and a single daily dose is probably best, since pregnenolone is fat-soluble, and probably follows the circadian highs and lows of DHEA and cortisol (highest in the morning, with a drop to baseline by late afternoon).
Pregnenolone is a naturally occurring metabolite that is made in your body. It is often referred to as the â??mother steroid compoundâ?? because it is the basic raw material for all steroid hormones in the body. This includes cortisone, progesterone, estrogen, testosterone and DHEA.
Although itâ??s the precursor of all steroid hormones, Pregnenolone itself is not a steroid hormone. Instead, Pregnenolone is made from cholesterol in the cells of both the adrenal gland and the central nervous system. Inside each cell there are 1000â??s of mitochondria (tiny power plants) and it is inside these mitochondria that Pregnenolone is produced.
Pregnenolone has been studied since the 1940â??s. Experiments conducted in the 1940’s and 1950’s found Pregnenolone could not only increase the productivity levels and reduce the stress of factory workers, but was also an excellent anti-inflammatory medication for conditions such as arthritis and allergies.
It has long been reported that one of the leading benefits of Pregnenolone supplementation is the enhancement of memory, well in excess of the memory enhancing effects of other substances.
Its role in memory enhancement appears to lie in its ability to assist in the acquisition of knowledge and the long term memory of learned behavior and it does all of this at lower doses than those required by other steroids and steroid precursors such as DHEA. Indeed, in a clinical study carried out in 1995, Pregnenolone was shown to be a potent memory enhancer â?? possibly 100 times more effective than DHEA.
Certainly clinical studies have shown clearly that Pregnenolone acts as a stress reliever. For example, research carried out in the 1940â??s and 1950â??s demonstrated that Pregnenolone reduced the stress of factory workers, with the added bonus of increased productivity.
A study of airplane pilots subjected to stressful situations also revealed that 25mg of Pregnenolone taken twice a day improved performance without causing adverse side effects.
[quote]duke6j wrote:
Just my 2 cents.
THE most powerful memory enhancer known to science and THE most important brain hormone.
Pregnenolone is a precursor to the bodyâ??s other naturally occurring hormones, including dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), progesterone, estrogen, testosterone, and cortisol.1 Pregnenolone is synthesized directly from cholesterol and is responsible for countless functions in our bodies.
By the age of 75, however, the bodyâ??s production of this valuable hormone has declined by as much as 60%,2 and levels of the hormones for which pregnenolone is a precursor have also diminished.
Supplemental pregnenolone is molecularly identical to the pregnenolone that the body makes naturally.3 The raw material to create pregnenolone comes from wild yams (Dioscorea villosa), which are grown in Mexico and other tropical regions throughout the world.
Pregnenolone is the precursor (building-block) for all other steroid hormones. It is converted directly into DHEA and/or progesterone. DHEA converts to testosterone and estrogens; progesterone converts to estrogens, cortisol, and aldosterone. It is this succession of conversions that makes human life possible. Without pregnenolone, there can be no human steroid hormone production.
Unfortunately, the advent of the ‘wonder drug’ cortisone (Cortisol) in the 1950s caused pregnenolone to be passed by for arthritis treatment, since pregnenolones results were much slower to manifest. ‘Coincidentally’, pregnenolone couldnt be patented by the drug companies whereas synthetic variants of cortisone could be (and were) patented.
By the time the nightmarish side-effects of excessive cortisone were widely known by the medical community in the 1960s (these side effects could include psychotic breakdown, adrenal failure, and even death), pregnenolone had been completely forgotten.
Morning is the perfect time to take pregnenolone, and a single daily dose is probably best, since pregnenolone is fat-soluble, and probably follows the circadian highs and lows of DHEA and cortisol (highest in the morning, with a drop to baseline by late afternoon).
Pregnenolone is a naturally occurring metabolite that is made in your body. It is often referred to as the â??mother steroid compoundâ?? because it is the basic raw material for all steroid hormones in the body. This includes cortisone, progesterone, estrogen, testosterone and DHEA.
Although itâ??s the precursor of all steroid hormones, Pregnenolone itself is not a steroid hormone. Instead, Pregnenolone is made from cholesterol in the cells of both the adrenal gland and the central nervous system. Inside each cell there are 1000â??s of mitochondria (tiny power plants) and it is inside these mitochondria that Pregnenolone is produced.
Pregnenolone has been studied since the 1940â??s. Experiments conducted in the 1940’s and 1950’s found Pregnenolone could not only increase the productivity levels and reduce the stress of factory workers, but was also an excellent anti-inflammatory medication for conditions such as arthritis and allergies.
It has long been reported that one of the leading benefits of Pregnenolone supplementation is the enhancement of memory, well in excess of the memory enhancing effects of other substances.
Its role in memory enhancement appears to lie in its ability to assist in the acquisition of knowledge and the long term memory of learned behavior and it does all of this at lower doses than those required by other steroids and steroid precursors such as DHEA. Indeed, in a clinical study carried out in 1995, Pregnenolone was shown to be a potent memory enhancer â?? possibly 100 times more effective than DHEA.
Certainly clinical studies have shown clearly that Pregnenolone acts as a stress reliever. For example, research carried out in the 1940â??s and 1950â??s demonstrated that Pregnenolone reduced the stress of factory workers, with the added bonus of increased productivity.
A study of airplane pilots subjected to stressful situations also revealed that 25mg of Pregnenolone taken twice a day improved performance without causing adverse side effects.
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We discussed preg about a year ago in the first brain booster thread. It can raise prolactin levels. I tried it one more time earlier this year, but even 2.5 mgs sublingually gives me anxiety. Its not part of my current brain booster stack.
[quote]Broseph wrote:
Anyone get headaches from vinpocetine?
Since I’ve started taking it (a little over a week) I get a headache each and everytime I pop a 10mg.[/quote]
Yes, me too.
Any thoughts on deprenyl/selegiline? I’m curious about dosage and cycling in particular. I just picked up some 5mg tabs of Selegiline HCl.
Took 2.5mg yesterday, 5 today. Will probably continue at 2.5 EOD for a while to assess. Right now I’m not sure if I like it. I don’t exactly feel like myself. I tend to run low on serotonin, and I’m wondering if bumping up dopamine is actually counterproductive–maybe I should add 5-HTP to balance things out?
Cognitive benefits are hard to comment on at the moment. Trying to keep it pertinent of course, but the other effects are distracting.
Hey, I have been reading through the archives and I haven’t seen anything concerning sleeping pills so far. What is BBB and MAG’s (and everyone elses) opinion on taking dreaming pills? The idea is they make your REM sleep more, and thus you get better quality sleep etc.
One example is:
http://www.brilliantdreams.com/science/dreams.htm
I don’t know whether to trust it though, because it is all ‘testimonial this’ and ‘omg awesome product that’ like a lot of junk pills. If it does work like it says it should, then wouldnt it be good for memory retention and creativity?
I was reading some interesting information about the herb Rosemary. Has anyone had any experience with this herb regarding memory?
I want to start the nootropic stack from the 2.0 thread. Can someone recommend a place I can purchase these? thanks
Vinpocetine
Huperzine A
DMAE
aniracetam
Oxiracetam
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]forevernade wrote:
Hey, I have been reading through the archives and I haven’t seen anything concerning sleeping pills so far. What is BBB and MAG’s (and everyone elses) opinion on taking dreaming pills? The idea is they make your REM sleep more, and thus you get better quality sleep etc.
One example is:
http://www.brilliantdreams.com/science/dreams.htm
I don’t know whether to trust it though, because it is all ‘testimonial this’ and ‘omg awesome product that’ like a lot of junk pills. If it does work like it says it should, then wouldnt it be good for memory retention and creativity?[/quote]
Contains galantamine which is a drug used to treat some of the symptoms of alzheimers disease.
I’ll let you google it to see what you think, lol.
BBB[/quote]
So…
it gives you boners, but gives you the shits. It gives you awesome dreams, but you may faint randomly. It enhances memory retention, but higher mortality rates were seen in drug-treated patients.
Doesn’t sound as nice as they make it seem, does it?
BBB or anyone familiar with nootropics, I posted a while a go but, it seems my post did not go through. Instead of rewriting everything I will just give a quick summary:
-21 yrs old
-Just started fall semester
-In order to graduate in the Spring I am taking 8 courses on campus 1 online
-Most are Aeronautic courses that require a lot of memorization/studying
-What would be a great stack for focus and retention/memorization of a lot of info?
-Is there anything that will help with nerves/anxiety when giving presentations?
EDIT: So I will not have to take any courses in winter break I have added another class to my course load. Also I have read through some of pages of the thread and I have seen that many stacks vary in price. I am looking for something that will last me 2 months about half of the semester for about $100-$120. If the results are worth it I will be buysupply for the next 2 months.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
[quote]EvanX wrote:
BBB or anyone familiar with nootropics, I posted a while a go but, it seems my post did not go through. Instead of rewriting everything I will just give a quick summary:
-21 yrs old
-Just started fall semester
-In order to graduate in the Spring I am taking 8 courses on campus 1 online
-Most are Aeronautic courses that require a lot of memorization/studying
-What would be a great stack for focus and retention/memorization of a lot of info?[/quote]
A stack of aniracetam, vinpocetine, DMAE. Add oxiracetam for memorisation periods.[quote]
-Is there anything that will help with nerves/anxiety when giving presentations?[/quote]
The aforementioned stack, (not including oxi as this can sometimes induce a minor SNS reaction - asses individual tolerance) - plus bacopa.[quote]
EDIT: So I will not have to take any courses in winter break I have added another class to my course load. Also I have read through some of pages of the thread and I have seen that many stacks vary in price. I am looking for something that will last me 2 months about half of the semester for about $100-$120. If the results are worth it I will be buysupply for the next 2 months.[/quote]
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Thanks BBB. Any recommendations on dosage? Trying to figure out how much to purchase.
Hello BBB -
I’m going back to do my final part of my studies - need it to advance further in my field…
1 year intensive course 50% lab/being lab runner - 50% tests ( dunno if this is relevant)
Been out of college 5 years while i read alot retention is not up to par methinks so i would like some sort of cocktail, you seem to change your dose/products every post you have given me a headache 
Quoted from Tonebone if i recall correctly:
Good/Bad/Indifferent - I’m open to your “stack” i’m all at sea in this area and i can quite comfortably lay this decision at your really silly knowledge of everything ^^
Best Wishes as always to you and yours.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
A stack of aniracetam, vinpocetine, DMAE. Add oxiracetam for memorisation periods.[/quote]
Do you recommend this stack to anyone from any maor?
I’m an English/Philosophy major (I know!) and need to make sure this year (3rd) is out of this world. My average this will determine whether I get into the 4th year thesis class, so it’s kind of a big deal for me.
So I looked up the standard stack of aniracetam, vinpocetine, DMAE and oxiracetam, and they are all drug group-types from perscription medicines. Will that mean customs will blocks them if I order from america? I cant find an Australian source… Can anyone help me out with that?
Also, what does ED stand for? Equivalent Daily?