BP MEET RESULTS

Training Powerlifting
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The results are not what I expected, but I had an unbelievable time & learned from my mistakes!

NASA WV OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP
Body weight: 218
1st attempt: 462
2nd attempt: 562(miss)
3rd attempt: 562(miss)

Well, I learned what probably caused me to miss my attempts. I competed 3 weeks earlier and I woke up @ 4:30 a.m. and drove 3 hours to the meet. I just didn’t have the strength on the bp platform as I did 3 weeks earlier. So, I won’t be doing meets so close together and no early morning drive to meets again:)

The great part of the meet is the whole helping & uplifting environment that I always enjoy being a part of. No hating, bashing or negative attacks as you see sometimes on line(training forums) The crowd and lifters cheering everybody on. Lifters helping and supporting each other. Lifters helping each other put on equipment. I helped back spot during the squat flight, load during the deadlift flight and load equipment in the trailer. It’s great helping at a powerlifting meet. Also, the meet director provided free double cheese burger for the lifters.

So, I felt great during the 3 hour drive back home and looking forward to my next meet. I’m going to deload for the next 2 weeks and start back hitting it hard again.

Thank you Inzer, AtLarge Nutrition, BMF Sports, USP Labs and Adrenaline Gear for your great support.

[b]TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

[/b]

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Way to go Big Willie

3 weeks is rather close for back to back meets [even bench only] especially if you are at or exceeding your geared PR’s. I seem to recall your meet 3 weeks ago you did 556 or 566 I think.

I’m wondering if it was the 3 hour drive or the 430 wake up more responsible for your personally sub-optimally desired result? Do you normally wake at 430?

Also I’m wondering what your training looked like the 3 weeks in between?

All in all, you did the best you could and learned something.

Well Done

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[quote]NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
The results are not what I expected, but I had an unbelievable time & learned from my mistakes!

NASA WV OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP
Body weight: 218
1st attempt: 462
2nd attempt: 562(miss)
3rd attempt: 562(miss)

Well, I learned what probably caused me to miss my attempts. I competed 3 weeks earlier and I woke up @ 4:30 a.m. and drove 3 hours to the meet. I just didn’t have the strength on the bp platform as I did 3 weeks earlier. So, I won’t be doing meets so close together and no early morning drive to meets again:)

The great part of the meet is the whole helping & uplifting environment that I always enjoy being a part of. No hating, bashing or negative attacks as you see sometimes on line(training forums) The crowd and lifters cheering everybody on. Lifters helping and supporting each other. Lifters helping each other put on equipment.

I helped back spot during the squat flight, load during the deadlift flight and load equipment in the trailer. It’s great helping at a powerlifting meet. Also, the meet director provided free double cheese burger for the lifters.

So, I felt great during the 3 hour drive back home and looking forward to my next meet. I’m going to deload for the next 2 weeks and start back hitting it hard again.

Thank you Inzer, AtLarge Nutrition, BMF Sports, USP Labs and Adrenaline Gear for your great support.

[b]TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL
[/b][/quote]

Spotting and loading and staying around afterwards to load up is great. Doing it when you are also competing is awesome. Very few lifters would consider doing that.

Good on you.

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Great attitude, man. A pleasure to know there’s guys like you out there. Better luck on your next meet!

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bullshit, you just have no idea how to use a shirt. you bench almost 500 lbs. raw, 562 should be a lift you NEVER miss in a shirt.

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[quote]outlawz wrote:

Well, I learned what probably caused me to miss my attempts. I competed 3 weeks earlier and I woke up @ 4:30 a.m. and drove 3 hours to the meet. I just didn’t have the strength on the bp platform as I did 3 weeks earlier. So, I won’t be doing meets so close together and no early morning drive to meets again:)

bullshit, you just have no idea how to use a shirt. you bench almost 500 lbs. raw, 562 should be a lift you NEVER miss in a shirt. [/quote]

outlawz

Sorry but I must disagree. I have competed with and against JT before.
He KNOWS how to use a shirt.
He weighs 219 and benches 562 drug free. The 200 lb(100 kg)IPF World Champion benched 594 at the IPF Bench Worlds. So being 32 lbs off the world champion is pretty awesome.
When you reach an elite level in your training(like JT) the gains come a lot harder and with equipment, it is about getting the right shirt. If the shirt is just a bit too small or large it can add or subtract 30 pounds or more. It is very difficult to get it just right at the level JT is.
I have no doubt HE WILL bench 600 in a single ply shirt, it is just a matter of getting a precise shirt to his body.

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He may know how to put a shirt on and bench press in it, but he by no means knows how to use a shirt. i mean he sucks so badly in the shirt that he actually opens raw. if that’s not a passive admission that he’s clueless in a shirt what is? come on man who do you think you’re kidding here?

he has an almost 500lb raw bench. that’s the reason the ipf record is only thirty pounds ahead of him. if he was even half decent in a shirt he’d be well over 600 already and have that record by a good margin.

if he were good in a shirt he’d probably be around 700lbs. the fact that he’s drug free doesn’t explain why he sucks in the shirt. and the single ply shirts of today give huge carryover so that’s not a valid excuse either.

ask someone who’s considered an expert on shirts and get a second opinion. you can track down lattimer or sebastian burns on a couple boards, ask them if someone who only gets 70lbs out of a shirt has any idea what they’re doing. regardless of the drug free single ply excuses the answer will be a plain and simple no.

the combo of getting minimal carryover and not being ableto touch sub maximal weight is the very definition of not knowing how you use a shirt. these are both qualities that “little willie’s” shirted bench has in spades.

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[quote]outlawz wrote:
he may know how to put a shirt on and bench press in it, but he by no means knows how to use a shirt. i mean he sucks so badly in the shirt that he actually opens raw. if that’s not a passive admission that he’s clueless in a shirt what is? come on man who do you think you’re kidding here?

he has an almost 500lb raw bench. that’s the reason the ipf record is only thirty pounds ahead of him. if he was even half decent in a shirt he’d be well over 600 already and have that record by a good margin. if he were good in a shirt he’d probably be around 700lbs. the fact that he’s drug free doesn’t explain why he sucks in the shirt. and the single ply shirts of today give huge carryover so that’s not a valid excuse either.

ask someone who’s considered an expert on shirts and get a second opinion. you can track down lattimer or sebastian burns on a couple boards, ask them if someone who only gets 70lbs out of a shirt has any idea what they’re doing. regardless of the drug free single ply excuses the answer will be a plain and simple no.

the combo of getting minimal carryover and not being ableto touch sub maximal weight is the very definition of not knowing how you use a shirt. these are both qualities that “little willie’s” shirted bench has in spades. [/quote]

outlawz

Okay I see where are coming from.
Not in a bad way, but your perspective seems to be from untested federations with looser standards of performance.
Understand that is not a shot at you at all, I didn’t know where your experience was from.
It is very difficult to compare the UPA/IPA/APF style and rules to the NASA/USAPL/AAU performances. In the untested competitions Burns and Lattimer would be great to consult, BUT in a strict standard of performance competition you have to be precise with your lifting or it will not pass.
Heres a good example

Marcus Schick benched 660 at 165/181 in the WPO a few yars ago. He left the WPO and comformed to an IPF standard of lifting. It took him fours years to win the World Title(which he did in 2008). When he first started lifting in the IPF(2005) he Benched 484 the year after he benched 660 at the Arnold. Marcus has improved over the last 3 years and this year he benched 535 lbs(242.5 kilos).
He is still over 125 lbs from his WPO days.
Where the rules of performance are stricter the amount you can get from a shirt will be less and get the lift to pass. No matter how much comparison is made between single vs multi ply, they are very different styles of benching. I have experience and single ply doesn’t come close to multi ply as far as getting extra pounds.

Hey if JT or I benched in untested meets I would definitely expect to hit more weight, but obviously that is not the case.
I hope this helps and have a great day!

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[quote]outlawz wrote:
he may know how to put a shirt on and bench press in it, but he by no means knows how to use a shirt. i mean he sucks so badly in the shirt that he actually opens raw. if that’s not a passive admission that he’s clueless in a shirt what is? come on man who do you think you’re kidding here?

he has an almost 500lb raw bench. that’s the reason the ipf record is only thirty pounds ahead of him. if he was even half decent in a shirt he’d be well over 600 already and have that record by a good margin. if he were good in a shirt he’d probably be around 700lbs. the fact that he’s drug free doesn’t explain why he sucks in the shirt. and the single ply shirts of today give huge carryover so that’s not a valid excuse either.

ask someone who’s considered an expert on shirts and get a second opinion. you can track down lattimer or sebastian burns on a couple boards, ask them if someone who only gets 70lbs out of a shirt has any idea what they’re doing. regardless of the drug free single ply excuses the answer will be a plain and simple no.

the combo of getting minimal carryover and not being ableto touch sub maximal weight is the very definition of not knowing how you use a shirt. these are both qualities that “little willie’s” shirted bench has in spades. [/quote]

Troof. I quite easily get 40-50kg out of my single ply Katana (90-110lb) and I feel that I should be getting alot more. Oh and I’m drug free too. Does that make me cool now??

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Congrats, if you learned something and enjoyed yourself; then it was worth doing!

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[quote]saps wrote:
Way to go Big Willie

3 weeks is rather close for back to back meets [even bench only] especially if you are at or exceeding your geared PR’s. I seem to recall your meet 3 weeks ago you did 556 or 566 I think.

I’m wondering if it was the 3 hour drive or the 430 wake up more responsible for your personally sub-optimally desired result? Do you normally wake at 430?

Also I’m wondering what your training looked like the 3 weeks in between?

All in all, you did the best you could and learned something.

Well Done[/quote]

I think it was the combination of 3 hour drive, getting up at 4:30 a.m and too close of meets. I don’t get up at 4:30 a.m. Here is a copy of my last workouts before the meet. I’m using lighter weight & less reps too.

Last workouts before the meet:
6-27-08 WORKOUT

BODY WEIGHT: 221

PAUSE FLOOR PRESS
135 x 10
225 x 7
315 x 3
405 x 1

DECLINE BENCH PRESS WITH THE FAT BAR
140 x 10
230 x 7
320 x 3
410 x 1

DECLINE SKULLCRUSHER
110 4 sets x 8

CHEST SUPPORT ROW
4 sets

4th OF JULY WORKOUT

BODY WEIGHT: 221

PAUSE 5-BOARD PRESS
135 x 10
225 x 8
315 x 6
405 x 3
495 x 3
515 x 3

PAUSE DUMBBELL BENCH PRESS
70 x 10
90 x 8
100 x 6
110 x 4

SEATED TRICEP PRESS
180 x 10
210 x 10
250 x 10
285 x 10

CABLE LAT PULL DOWN
4 sets

7-7-08 AUX WORKOUT

BODY WEIGHT: 221

FLAT BARBELL BENCH PRESS
Bar x 20
135 x 15
185 x 10
225 x 10

SEATED DUMBBELL HAMMER CURLS
40 x 10
50 x 10

PULL UPS
1 x 15(PR)(grin)

SEATED REAR DELTOID REVERSE PECK DECK
100 x 10

SLED DRAGGING
4(45lb plates) x 70 yards
4(45lb plates) x 70 yards
4(45lb plates) x 70 yards

TREADMILL
20 minutes

AB WHEEL
1 x 20

STANDING DUMBBELL LATERAL BEND
60 x 10
80 x 10

BACK EXTENSION
1 x 10

SIT UPS
1 x 20

Thanks a lot,

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]apwsearch wrote:
NASAKYCHAIRMAN wrote:
The results are not what I expected, but I had an unbelievable time & learned from my mistakes!

NASA WV OPEN CHAMPIONSHIP
Body weight: 218
1st attempt: 462
2nd attempt: 562(miss)
3rd attempt: 562(miss)

Well, I learned what probably caused me to miss my attempts. I competed 3 weeks earlier and I woke up @ 4:30 a.m. and drove 3 hours to the meet. I just didn’t have the strength on the bp platform as I did 3 weeks earlier. So, I won’t be doing meets so close together and no early morning drive to meets again:)

The great part of the meet is the whole helping & uplifting environment that I always enjoy being a part of. No hating, bashing or negative attacks as you see sometimes on line(training forums) The crowd and lifters cheering everybody on. Lifters helping and supporting each other. Lifters helping each other put on equipment.

I helped back spot during the squat flight, load during the deadlift flight and load equipment in the trailer. It’s great helping at a powerlifting meet. Also, the meet director provided free double cheese burger for the lifters.

So, I felt great during the 3 hour drive back home and looking forward to my next meet. I’m going to deload for the next 2 weeks and start back hitting it hard again.

Thank you Inzer, AtLarge Nutrition, BMF Sports, USP Labs and Adrenaline Gear for your great support.

[b]TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL
[/b]

Spotting and loading and staying around afterwards to load up is great. Doing it when you are also competing is awesome. Very few lifters would consider doing that.

Good on you.[/quote]

I enjoy giving back to the Powerlifting Community because it’s a great opportunity to reach out to more lifters and keep powerlifting going on your own state.

Thanks a lot,

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]G87 wrote:
Great attitude, man. A pleasure to know there’s guys like you out there. Better luck on your next meet! [/quote]

I’m always learning after 14 years of competing. I’m looking forward to my next bp meet.

Thanks for the positive comment.

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]BPGorilla wrote:
outlawz wrote:

Well, I learned what probably caused me to miss my attempts. I competed 3 weeks earlier and I woke up @ 4:30 a.m. and drove 3 hours to the meet. I just didn’t have the strength on the bp platform as I did 3 weeks earlier. So, I won’t be doing meets so close together and no early morning drive to meets again:)

bullshit, you just have no idea how to use a shirt. you bench almost 500 lbs. raw, 562 should be a lift you NEVER miss in a shirt.

outlawz

Sorry but I must disagree. I have competed with and against JT before.
He KNOWS how to use a shirt.
He weighs 219 and benches 562 drug free. The 200 lb(100 kg)IPF World Champion benched 594 at the IPF Bench Worlds. So being 32 lbs off the world champion is pretty awesome.
When you reach an elite level in your training(like JT) the gains come a lot harder and with equipment, it is about getting the right shirt. If the shirt is just a bit too small or large it can add or subtract 30 pounds or more. It is very difficult to get it just right at the level JT is.
I have no doubt HE WILL bench 600 in a single ply shirt, it is just a matter of getting a precise shirt to his body. [/quote]

Great post BpGorilla!!! I’m doing about 40 lbs less than the #1 220 bench pesser on the planet. “Outlawz” has a negative agenda and won’t accept the facts.

Thanks a lot,

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]BPGorilla wrote:
outlawz wrote:
he may know how to put a shirt on and bench press in it, but he by no means knows how to use a shirt. i mean he sucks so badly in the shirt that he actually opens raw. if that’s not a passive admission that he’s clueless in a shirt what is? come on man who do you think you’re kidding here?

he has an almost 500lb raw bench. that’s the reason the ipf record is only thirty pounds ahead of him. if he was even half decent in a shirt he’d be well over 600 already and have that record by a good margin. if he were good in a shirt he’d probably be around 700lbs. the fact that he’s drug free doesn’t explain why he sucks in the shirt. and the single ply shirts of today give huge carryover so that’s not a valid excuse either.

ask someone who’s considered an expert on shirts and get a second opinion. you can track down lattimer or sebastian burns on a couple boards, ask them if someone who only gets 70lbs out of a shirt has any idea what they’re doing. regardless of the drug free single ply excuses the answer will be a plain and simple no.

the combo of getting minimal carryover and not being ableto touch sub maximal weight is the very definition of not knowing how you use a shirt. these are both qualities that “little willie’s” shirted bench has in spades.

outlawz

Okay I see where are coming from.
Not in a bad way, but your perspective seems to be from untested federations with looser standards of performance.
Understand that is not a shot at you at all, I didn’t know where your experience was from.
It is very difficult to compare the UPA/IPA/APF style and rules to the NASA/USAPL/AAU performances. In the untested competitions Burns and Lattimer would be great to consult, BUT in a strict standard of performance competition you have to be precise with your lifting or it will not pass.
Heres a good example

Marcus Schick benched 660 at 165/181 in the WPO a few yars ago. He left the WPO and comformed to an IPF standard of lifting. It took him fours years to win the World Title(which he did in 2008). When he first started lifting in the IPF(2005) he Benched 484 the year after he benched 660 at the Arnold. Marcus has improved over the last 3 years and this year he benched 535 lbs(242.5 kilos).
He is still over 125 lbs from his WPO days.
Where the rules of performance are stricter the amount you can get from a shirt will be less and get the lift to pass. No matter how much comparison is made between single vs multi ply, they are very different styles of benching. I have experience and single ply doesn’t come close to multi ply as far as getting extra pounds.

Hey if JT or I benched in untested meets I would definitely expect to hit more weight, but obviously that is not the case.
I hope this helps and have a great day!
[/quote]

You brought up a great point!!! My bp lifts must be able to pass in NASA & USAPL. Also, leave a urine sample in the cup too(lol).

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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[quote]BPGorilla wrote:
outlawz wrote:
he may know how to put a shirt on and bench press in it, but he by no means knows how to use a shirt. i mean he sucks so badly in the shirt that he actually opens raw. if that’s not a passive admission that he’s clueless in a shirt what is? come on man who do you think you’re kidding here?

he has an almost 500lb raw bench. that’s the reason the ipf record is only thirty pounds ahead of him. if he was even half decent in a shirt he’d be well over 600 already and have that record by a good margin. if he were good in a shirt he’d probably be around 700lbs. the fact that he’s drug free doesn’t explain why he sucks in the shirt. and the single ply shirts of today give huge carryover so that’s not a valid excuse either.

ask someone who’s considered an expert on shirts and get a second opinion. you can track down lattimer or sebastian burns on a couple boards, ask them if someone who only gets 70lbs out of a shirt has any idea what they’re doing. regardless of the drug free single ply excuses the answer will be a plain and simple no.

the combo of getting minimal carryover and not being ableto touch sub maximal weight is the very definition of not knowing how you use a shirt. these are both qualities that “little willie’s” shirted bench has in spades.

outlawz

Okay I see where are coming from.
Not in a bad way, but your perspective seems to be from untested federations with looser standards of performance.
Understand that is not a shot at you at all, I didn’t know where your experience was from.
It is very difficult to compare the UPA/IPA/APF style and rules to the NASA/USAPL/AAU performances. In the untested competitions Burns and Lattimer would be great to consult, BUT in a strict standard of performance competition you have to be precise with your lifting or it will not pass.
Heres a good example

Marcus Schick benched 660 at 165/181 in the WPO a few yars ago. He left the WPO and comformed to an IPF standard of lifting. It took him fours years to win the World Title(which he did in 2008). When he first started lifting in the IPF(2005) he Benched 484 the year after he benched 660 at the Arnold. Marcus has improved over the last 3 years and this year he benched 535 lbs(242.5 kilos).
He is still over 125 lbs from his WPO days.
Where the rules of performance are stricter the amount you can get from a shirt will be less and get the lift to pass. No matter how much comparison is made between single vs multi ply, they are very different styles of benching. I have experience and single ply doesn’t come close to multi ply as far as getting extra pounds.

Hey if JT or I benched in untested meets I would definitely expect to hit more weight, but obviously that is not the case.
I hope this helps and have a great day!
[/quote]
I get around +50% in the shirt (best raw atm 115 kg best in shirt 175) and I compete in IPF. So I can only agree it is fair to say that OP is very strong raw, but his shirted bench lacks behind relatively to his raw.

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Dennis Cieri can bench press 525 raw in the 198 class, but he bench press 595 @ the 2008 IPF World Bp Championship.

TRAIN HARD

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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jt, other than to show that cieri sucks as badly as you do with a shirt what’s your point? being good in a shirt is about getting carryover and touching lighter weights in tight equipment.

it’s not about being strong enough raw that even a poor amount of support puts you near the top w/ equipment. you can’t touch light and you get piss poor carryover. you suck at shirted benching, why not do something about it instead of being so caught up in your ego that you can’t admit an obvious flaw?

bench gorilla. the ipf certainly does have stricter rules than any of the feds you mentioned, but the rules of performance in the bench are exactly the same as those of the uspf and i know guys in the uspf getting +200 out of closed back single ply gear.

drug status has nothing to do with how much you get out of a shirt. jt is stronger raw and the same bodyweight as at least one of the guys i have in mind they just know how to use their shirts. the sharp decline in the numbers with shick has much more to do with the lack of a 48 hr. weigh in and drug testing than the rules of performance in the lift itself or not knowing how to use a shirt.

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[quote]Boffin wrote:
Congrats, if you learned something and enjoyed yourself; then it was worth doing![/quote]

Definitely, it was worth doing! I learned from my mistakes and will make the adjustments.

Thanks a lot,

“BIG WILLIE” J.T. HALL

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JT - How come your opener was 100 lbs lower than your second attempt? Somebody referenced you did it raw, was that correct? Just curious. Keep up the hard training.