Boxing in 'The Street'

Training
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[quote]WP wrote:

What are your credentials?
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I know you don’t really give a fuck & just want to find an angle to attack me personally rather than deal with my argument (which is really all I’m interested in discussing). But just to give you something to play/attack me with:

20 years TMA/RMA/military hand-to-hand/combat sport experience. Qualified instructor. Fought semi/full contact matches in a couple of them

Had “street” fights (late teens to late 20s, around time in the military) mostly vs single opponents, 2 against multiple opponents (3-1 & 4-1). Never KO’d, have been put in hospital when a guy attacked me with an iron bar.

I mostly train with police, military and security who have to use their skills for a living on a regular basis (training is often based of what they’ve experienced that week/month/tour/etc).

Edit (because of the post below): 20 years training, during which time I have done TMA/RMA/military hand-to-hand/combat sport experience. Not 20 years in all of them, the longest was 13 years

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[quote]Kev_PL1 wrote:

[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

You’re right, best to just not prepare at all. [/quote]

OMFG I didn’t say “don’t prepare” I said how can YOU prepare when you don’t know what YOU are preparing for?

I know what I’m training for, and I know what variables exist, hence I base my training around that. You said how can you knwo just train hard. Thats like a non-runner saying “who knows what a marathon is like… I’ll just train hard”
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Impossible to know every variable, and even more impossible to say which ones will come into play. Be well-rounded, train hard, be confident in your skill set and ability to assess a situation, be aware…etc

Be armed too if you want. At the end of the day, any way you can prepare can be negated by varying circumstances, just hope that the cards fall in your favor and try like hell to come out on top.

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[quote]Kev_PL1 wrote:

[quote]WP wrote:

What are your credentials?
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I know you don’t really give a fuck & just want to find an angle to attack me personally rather than deal with my argument (which is really all I’m interested in discussing). But just to give you something to play/attack me with:

20 years TMA/RMA/military hand-to-hand/combat sport experience. Qualified instructor. Fought semi/full contact matches in a couple of them

Had “street” fights (late teens to late 20s, around time in the military) mostly vs single opponents, 2 against multiple opponents (3-1 & 4-1). Never KO’d, have been put in hospital when a guy attacked me with an iron bar.

I mostly train with police, military and security who have to use their skills for a living on a regular basis (training is often based of what they’ve experienced that week/month/tour/etc).

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20 years military H2H combat experience…thats like what, a blue belt in real martial arts?

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[quote]audiogarden1 wrote:

20 years military H2H combat experience…thats like what, a blue belt in real martial arts?[/quote]

I’ve not got 20 years in the military, I’ve trained for 20 years and during that time, that’s what I covered. The longest in one thing was 13 years. I don’t care for belt colour other than whether it matches my shoes.

I also didn’t want to volunteer that info because then the dicussion becomes who thinks who is harder on an internet forum (I’m guessing thats what your post is about). However if I refuse to say what I’ve done, then people will say “he must never have had a real fight, what does he know”. So really I can’t win.

I got asked to say what my credentials were, and that is what I’ve done; if you think it counts for nothing - well good for you; I’m not going to get upset over it.

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But it takes a little bit more than 1-2 years of good boxing training until you know how to slip a punch?
And what happens if you move your head into the wrong direction?

I got knocked the f*** out in a sparring session after rolling under a left hook and running straight into a knee.
Maybe it’s because I am a shitty boxer, but I’d never soley rely on headmovement.

He could have easily named this video:
“How to win a street fight with proper footwork”

I don’t get the point
Is he trying to tell that evasive head movements are the end all be all solution in a street fight?
Or does he simply state that it is possible to slip punches thrown by individuals not participating in combat sports in a “street fight”?

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[quote]Quiet Warrior wrote:

But it takes a little bit more than 1-2 years of good boxing training until you know how to slip a punch?
And what happens if you move your head into the wrong direction?

I got knocked the f*** out in a sparring session after rolling under a left hook and running straight into a knee.
Maybe it’s because I am a shitty boxer, but I’d never soley rely on headmovement.

He could have easily named this video:
“How to win a street fight with proper footwork”

I don’t get the point
Is he trying to tell that evasive head movements are the end all be all solution in a street fight?
Or does he simply state that it is possible to slip punches thrown by individuals not participating in combat sports in a “street fight”?
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thats a risk with ANYTHING you do

I’ve never got this attitude that “oh I suck at so it must not work, im just going to stop trying to improve on it ever”

The first time you threw a jab you probably ate a right hand, does this mean you should never throw a jab??

Nothing is safe in fighting, nothing. Head movement doesnt suddenly become unviable as soon as variable is introduced like knees or kicks. Slip at the wrong time and you can eat a hook, opponent times you ducking you can eat an uppercut, opponents sees you like to roll/pivot prolifically he starts working on your body

This attitude that because something might not work under the worst possible conditions that you shouldnt do it is why the 90% of everything sucks rule also applies to fighters I guess. “im not roy jones so i shouldnt move my head, I’m just going to wade in with my arms glued to my face, oh wait why do i keep losing fights”

He never once stated its the be all end all. He simply showed that good movement, who wouldve thunk it, makes you hard to hit and that is a huge, potentially life saving, advantage.

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[quote]Aussie Davo wrote:
good movement, who wouldve thunk it, makes you hard to hit and that is a huge, potentially life saving, advantage.[/quote]
I agree.

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p.s that wasnt an attack on you warrior, just a trend with topics like these that really annoys me.

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I’m cool with your criticism.