[quote]UtahLama wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Digital Chainsaw wrote:
TheBodyGuard wrote:
Naw gotta disagre there with that…yes as a former bouncer. I think its a pretty pussy ass move for a big guy (like us bouncers) to use more force than necessary to remove someone that is (1) usually untrained and (2) most likely drunk.
I feel you, but on the flip side I think it’s a pretty stupid move for someone who is untrained to get so dumb-ass drunk that he fights big guys (like us) and can’t even put his arms up to open a door.
To throw or use someone as a human battering ram and this other shit I hear is the real pussy shit.
Hmmm… So shoving a guy toward the door is “pussy shit”? Unless his hands are cuffed behind his back, I just don’t see your “human battering ram” analogy. Drama queen much?
It makes you a bully plain and simple.
See my earlier post on this subject.
I used to work with bullies like this and they were nothing by themselves…like most bullies are. Now I’m not trying to get all sensitive on the thread here - there IS a time to get down - like when you are attacked.
I can’t vouch for the other guy’s story, but how do you know that wasn’t the case in the one I told? Hell, I only saw the aftermath myself, having been at the other end of the club working the front door.
A person with the will to resist or fight should have the faculties to put their arms up and open a door. The other factors involved were unknowns (doors being locked, made of glass, etc.)
And I’ve gotten down plenty and I guess if I mentally masturbated enough, I’d have plenty of stories to tell.
Well, that seems to be the purpose of this thread; tell us all how you perfectly handled every situation you came across, and were never the least bit overly agressive, ever.
But so far, most of these stories are a bunch of bully the drunk patron pussy shit.
Most? I don’t question your integrity, just your selective reading skills.
I called everyone on it; let the flaming begin…but I bet you can’t pick me up and send me thru any door.
Yes, you have shamed us all, being the paragon of piety that you are. Let us all hang our heads in shame.
I see the higher intellect is at work here NOT. My posts stands. I wasn’t intending to be “selective” or attack any one post but the overwhelming content of the thread which seemed to be just a bunch of I did this to this guy bullshit. No one should be pushed head first thru a door. If you think that action can be defended b/c said person should lift his arms - you’re an asshole plain and simple.
Most guys are fighting or acting a fool b/c they are drunk. How did they get drunk? One of your coworkers, an employee of the bar, broke the law and served a visibly intoxicated person. To throw someone thru a door b/c they are drunk and starting trouble, and then blaming them for not getting their arms up to open the door is just asshole shit.
Like I said, you couldn’t throw me thru the door period. I’ve thrown out lots of assholes and no, I’ve never gotten carried away; have I used force? All the damn time. But the force I used was never out of proportion to the resistance I faced. You trying to hit me? You’ll get hit. Etc. But as a 275lb powerlifter / trained fighter, I have no excuse in my mind, as a bouncer or a “man”, to pick someone up who is drunk, smaller than me, untrained, etc., and use him as a means to open a door. That’s asshole shit. You want to make this post about something you did - I’ll be happy to oblige.
The fact is, the industry is chock full of a bunch of guys that are big but their hearts pump cool aid when alone. They are tough when working with a crew - nothing by themselves. I know, I worked with plenty of them. They’d start shit for weeks, bully people, assault people and then I’d tell them I’d be away next weekend on a bodyguard job and next thing guys don’t want to show up to work. If you’re not that type, fine. But don’t try to defend using someone as a battering ram.
If you can’t exit a drunk untrained patron from the premises in a way other than which you described, I think you can pretty much figure out what I think. Drama queen? I just point out the obvious. And maybe, just maybe, I’ve been to court a few more times than you in connection with ejecting someone. But again, I’ll repeat; I attacked the content of the thread, not your post. But we can certainly debate the moral, legal reasons why you did what you did. Wouldn’t be much of a debate though - you have no defense.
You should have left this post alone frankly. First, to assault someone who can’t defend themselves is the epitomy of being a pussy. Second, if he filed charges, you’d lose. Third, if he sued the bar, they’d lose. I’m waiting to hear your next post telling me how any part of that situation was a win…for you personally or the establishment.
Way to go man, you hopped into a cool thread and started preaching to everybody, sweet.
Bla Bla Bla… I’m 275lbs… Bla Bla Bla… I’m the Guido Bruce Lee… Bla Bla Bla.
Guess what… the dude had his hand up her skirt!! if that was YOUR girlfriend me thinks that you might have been a little more upset, and it you were not, well that’s more downside than upside my friend.
Oh, and before you say it…I’m SURE my puny 220lbs could not POSSIBILY throw you thru that door.
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Yeah; real cool thread - I beat this guy up, bla bla bla to use your venacular. Cool yes, if you’re 22 years old. Grow up. Funny thread when discussing the various hi jinx that occurs and the things you see as a bouncer? Absolutely. We all have stories. Most are funny. Tossing some drunk thru a door is not funny. It’s not very “T-man” like. It’s being a bully. And no, I’m not preaching - I’m pointing out the obvious. No, you couldn’t throw me out the door - yes, you are puny at 220 - I’d flinch and knock your punk ass out.
How do I know you are a punk? You think the post was cool. Nuff said. You probably lifted weight b/c you got picked on. I lifted weights b/c I caught the powerlifting fever after helping a training partner at a meet. Real funny; throwing a drunk asshole thru the door. Very cool. Now that’s hard core tough. LMFAO. And, I don’t remember it being “his” girlfriend - just a waitress but if I’m wrong I stand corrected.
My original post was not an attack on his, it was an observation about the general, “I kicked this dude’s ass” bullshit. It’s why the “industry” sucks. It’s why bars get sued. It’s why I can’t win in court when someone accuses me of assaulting them. Because someone like you thinks he has big balls b/c he threw out a drunk. Want big balls? Get in a ring and fight someone else that wants to fight. Maybe you do, maybe you don’t - I could care less.
And since you went there - I’ll go back there - at 220 yes, you’re nothing…truth hurts? Size DOES matter. Have at that post…have fun. Ask enough girls and they’ll tell you size doesn’t matter. Enough of you 220 and below guys get together here and you’ll convince yourselves the same lolololol. Have at it.
