Boosting T Naturally

Nutrition
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hey whats up im a 25 yr boyish-looking young dude who is fed up with looking so godamn boyish, so i found this place and in an eager spree bought some supps (ZMA, Rez-V and Rhodiola)

the thing is that i’m about 130lbs and so far have only minimal to moderate experience in exercise and working out.

my preferred style for working out, as a beginner, is bodyweight calisthenics, though i also plan to lift in the relatively near future. as a side not i’m also interested in starting up yoga and martial arts regimen, like when i have more funds to do so.

anyway, i want to experience the benefits of ZMA and Rez-V (testosterone boosting and estrogen inhibiting, respectively) but i hear that i really shouldn’t bother with such supps til i have more experience in vigorously training hard for at least a year or two before doing these supps, including TRIBEX which sounds intriguing.

so, is it true? should i keep away from using Rez-v and ZMA?

i see ZMA is simply a 3 mineral and vitamin blend anyhow, and as for Rez-V, i may not want to inhibit estrogen since some estrogen is necessary for cellular health. (it’s all about that precious dynamic equilibrium)

what’s a dude like me to do? maybe just eat natural t-boosting and estrogen-controlling foods?

should i send the supps back and invest in mass stacks for now, again, while increasing intake of naturally t-boosting, estrogen-decreasing foods? and if so, which foods are we talkin’ about here? perhaps some internet research will answer those questions?

but my primary question is whether i really need to not take these supps, since i’m not yet regularly intensely training?

could it be that without the ZMA and Rez-V and with the right nutritional supplementation that my t levels will boost naturally, thus implying that the only reason i look so boyish and even sorta effeminate is simply because i’m not training regularly?

much thanks for some data

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[quote]DCSB2610 wrote:
hey whats up im a 25 yr boyish-looking young dude who is fed up with looking so godamn boyish, so i found this place and in an eager spree bought some supps (AMA, Rez-V and Rhodiola)

the thing is that i’m about 130lbs and so far have only minimal to moderate experience in exercise and working out.

my preferred style for working out, as a beginner, is bodyweight calisthenics, though i also plan to lift in the relatively near future. as a side not i’m also interested in starting up yoga and martial arts regimen, like when i have more funds to do so.

anyway, i want to experience the benefits of ZMA and Rez-V (testosterone boosting and estrogen inhibiting, respectively) but i hear that i really shouldn’t bother with such supps til i have more experience in vigorously training hard for at least a year or two before doing these supps, including TRIBEX which sounds intriguing.

so, is it true? should i keep away from using Rez-V and ZMA?
i see zma is simply a 3 mineral and vitamin blend anyhow, and as for Rez-V, i may not want to inhibit estrogen since some estrogen is necessary for cellular health. (it’s all about that precious dynamic equilibrium)

what’s a dude like me to do? maybe just eat natural t-boosting and estrogen-controlling foods?

should i send the supps back and invest in mass stacks for now, again, while increasing intake of naturally t-boosting, estrogen-decreasing foods? and if so, which foods are we talkin’ about here? perhaps some internet research will answer those questions?

but my primary question is whether i really need to not take these supps, since i’m not yet regularly intensely training?

could it be that without the ZMA and Rez-V and with the right nutritional supplementation that my t levels will boost naturally, thus implying that the only reason i look so boyish and even sorta effeminate is simply because i’m not training regularly?

much thanks for some data [/quote]

I’d invest in some protein powder, ZMA, and Superfood. As for TRIBEX i’d train for a while and then maybe add it in and see if you feel any effect.

If you want to gain more weight you need to increase your intake of good foods. Don’t rely on just supplements.

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[quote]DCSB2610 wrote:
hey whats up im a 25 yr boyish-looking young dude who is fed up with looking so godamn boyish, so i found this place and in an eager spree bought some supps (ZMA, Rez-V and Rhodiola)

the thing is that i’m about 130lbs and so far have only minimal to moderate experience in exercise and working out.

my preferred style for working out, as a beginner, is bodyweight calisthenics, though i also plan to lift in the relatively near future. as a side not i’m also interested in starting up yoga and martial arts regimen, like when i have more funds to do so.
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Seriously, it sounds like your misguided, and from your first sentence, I think Built For Show, Nate Green’s new book would be a pretty good start. It’ll show you the ropes for good programs, with pretty good instructions for all of the lifts. He has a great chapter about getting your diet in order, too.

To echo others, get your training and diet in order and make sure you’re getting sufficient calories before you worry about supplements. (For the record, I dont consider protein powder or Surge supplements, but more food. Get those.)

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yea, i know i’m repeating some of these questions, just trying ta get a good base of suggestions and launch from there!

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grab a used copy of this book…or read the article archive here

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That should do it.

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certainly wood. now thats what i’m missin these days… a nice pair of ta-ta’s ta squuuueeze, ah.

anyone know what metal band at the credits is?

ta-ta’s and metal, fuck yea

ok, so eat lots of good foods, include some quality whey, some fish oil (though i hear some contradictory views on fish oil), and perhaps some Surge recovery?

can Rhodiola Rosea be good for a beginner? or should that too be left til one is more experienced in the basex of regular vigorous strength training

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I’d say hold off on the Rhodiola, the basics you listed will work fine id say Surge falls in there with them. What contradictory views on fish oil have you heard?

Anyway if you want to lose the boyish 130lbs look worry less about supplements. Learn good form on squats deadlifts and other compounds movements. Lift heavy and eat till you feel like puking, then eat some more.

All you need is desire commitment and hardwork.

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right. i read on some forums that pumpkin, hemp, and flax are better in the long run. something about fish oil containing some potentially bad stuff. however, if one were to take fish oil, which one’s best? Flameout looks like some good stuff.

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[quote]DCSB2610 wrote:
right. i read on some forums that pumpkin, hemp, and flax are better in the long run. something about fish oil containing some potentially bad stuff. however, if one were to take fish oil, which one’s best? Flameout looks like some good stuff.

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Flameout is a much more potent source of DHE/EPA than pumpkin, hemp, or flax.

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[quote]DCSB2610 wrote:
right. i read on some forums that pumpkin, hemp, and flax are better in the long run. something about fish oil containing some potentially bad stuff. however, if one were to take fish oil, which one’s best? Flameout looks like some good stuff.

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That’s stupid. You’re not going to get the DHA and EPA from those sources that you would from fish oil (especially a concentrated formulation like Flameout).

I take Flameout and a regular potency fish oil through the day.

I second the purchase of “built for show” or if you prefer, go with John Berardi’s “scrawny to brawny” to get bigger.

You really gotta hit the weights and the food hard if you want to lose the 130 pound build.

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I like Flameout because of the high epa and dha content. Haven’t really checked out any other brands. I guess some brands could possibly contain some sort of contaminate or mercury but doubtful, especially Flameout.

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good stuff bros

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how come no actual Biotest reps have chimed in here?

would it be WISE for a 130lbs beginner in training to take ZMA, REZ-V, Rhodiola respectively? if so, what would be the best strategy for a rather scrawny 130lbs beginner in strength and muscular training to utilize such promising products as those listed above, and others, including TRIBEX.

would knowledgeable and veteran Biotest reps and fans agree with what has been said in this and other posts about someone with my current stats being better off not using the mentioned items until i’ve got about 3-5 years of proper nutrition and experience in strength training first?

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cus i really did want to start TODAY using ZMA, REZ-V, and Rhodiola, but now I’m scared… now i’d rather wait til i have some sort of pre-requisite experience first, in order to reap the most benefits from ingesting these ingenious supps.

it would be rad to see T-Nation put together a schedule for how different body and experience types could use the supps, and who should and shouldn’t use it according to such body and experience types.

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[quote]DCSB2610 wrote:
cus i really did want to start TODAY using ZMA, REZ-V, and Rhodiola, but now I’m scared… now i’d rather wait til i have some sort of pre-requisite experience first, in order to reap the most benefits from ingesting these ingenious supps.

it would be rad to see T-Nation put together a schedule for how different body and experience types could use the supps, and who should and shouldn’t use it according to such body and experience types.[/quote]

Or you could just start lifting heavy instead of “Majoring in the Minor Shit”.

Between this and your other thread, I get the impression that either you are a troll or you suffer from moderate OCD and have become fixated on supplements.

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moderate ocd… not entirely unlikely… gladly there’s some intriguing study being produced on unconventional treatment options for ocd… much thanks for the dose objectivity… always, or at least usually, a good thing :wink:

plus, ya know, there’s so much info around, it can be a daunting challenge to assimilate, like, if you were to take into account the sort of info @ www.bodyecology.com for instance… yeesh!

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Apparnetly chicken has estrogen lol
Not that it should concern you, since the amount is rather close to minimal.

As mentioned earlier, first structure your training and diet programmes, then consider supplementation

Some say that fewer wanks boost testosterone??

And yer zinc and DHEA can raise testosterone.