[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]mcstoots082 wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]The other Rob wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, if you don’t understand the strength a man has who simply has faith (specific religion or belief is irrelevant), then this discussion is pointless. I wish we had better debates on this forum. [/quote]
What do you mean by faith? A belief in an afterlife? Belief in a creator? Do you believe that
it’s limited to religious people? One could take the word faith to mean many things.[/quote]
So when I wrote the specific words “specific religion or belief is irrelevant” AND put this in parenthesis, this was not clear enough to the degree you needed to make another post about it?
I mean, as if someone couldn’t anticipate someone making a post just like the one you made which is WHY the sentence was written to begin with?[/quote]
Yes, I understand the Faith thing in regard to religion I just think it is foolish. There is a native American story that was told around the time the europeans were trying to convert the Native americans to christianity. This is the story ruffly. The N.A. god and the white man’s god were competing for the hearts of an N.A. village. The missionaries for the White God kept telling the N.A. people all the miracles he could perform and all the power he had. So the N.A. God challend the White God to a test of who was truly more powerful. There was a huge boulder known to the villagers a little ways from town, that was so big no human would be able to move it. The challenge was the first God to move the boulder would win the village over and be their god for eternity. The white god ever confident said he would go first, as he approached the boulder he knelt in front of it and began praying. For hours he prayed and nothing happened, everyone waited and waited, still nothing happened. Finally the N.A. God had enough waiting, he walked to the boulder firmly set his feet put his shoulder in to the boulder and strained with all his might till the boulder started to roll.
The moral of the story is you could use your faith and pray all day for some thing to be done or you could just get your lazy ass up and do it. A person's own actions are more likely to get things done then their faith or their beliefs in a 2000 year old book. I loved that story and think it is a good parable to learn from actually.[/quote]
What an idiotic representation of what many believe. I may pray like everything depends on a greater power or greater destiny, but I will always act like everything depends on me.
The problem with guys like you is you view everyone who believes in God the same…as if there is no difference between a woman who sits at home praying while her child dies instead of taking them to a hospital…and the father who happens to be a doctor who prays as he rushes his daughter to the ER.
It often makes me wonder where people like you have gotten their point of view.[/quote]
X I seriously think you are overly sensitive and read into shit way to much. Plus I think you are just one of those angry fuckers that can turn some one saying Hi into a fight. But truly X don’t close your mind off to the story I told, there is a lot to learn in it. You insult my beliefs by calling them idiotic and you are the stupid mother fucker that probably believes in a 2000 year old book put together by churches to get 10 percent of your income. You are one that probably believes a true virgin gave birth to the child of our creator. That that child sacrificed himself to save us all and then got resurected. I mean in reality who’s views seem more idiotic? I say yours do sir.
GOOD DAY SIR!
