41guy, thanks for posting a sample routine.
Good to see other people jumping rope. In my opinion it is one of the best things that hardly anybody does.
dereck, thank’s for the asking. i am 6feet, 2 inches and weigh around 180, i have a 31 -32 inch waist (depend’s on maker) i would give a picture, but have no clue on how to as i am very new to this computer stuff, basically computer novice. i have no desire to have bulging muscle’s popping out of my clothe’s, i am after the lean but muscular look. i used to do some modeling work and settled on these type’s of workout’s. these workout’s are not for everybody, first, it is extremely hard, most people will simply give up cause it’s tough (a beginner must gradually increase the load). also, some might think it is to boring (although in my mind that is an excuse). i am 41 dereck, eat like a f-in horse, have no gut at all and am very lean (b.f. i don’t know). jumping rope has given me very developed calves, a lean muscular appearance (you asked). doing these workout’s for year’s has also given me a resting heartbeat of 38-42bpm. as i said earlier my workout’s last 45-60min per day. look, i am not saying that i’m this or that. i will say this is great for what i want to acomplish and look like, it’s a ball busting workout daily, i realize i probably go overboard (i know i do, have broken each foot over past 9 year’s, among other shit, but my past football mentality say’s keep going, beside’s i love to eat). get compliment’s on shoulder’s and chest often as well. my workout this morning was 2 minute’s of roping drop and do a set of incline pushup’s (then the next set regular pushup’s) i did 20 set’s which total’s 40 minute’s of jumping rope and 20 set’s of pushup’s.
Weighed pushups, dips and pullups is all I ever do for upper body. If you put your mind to it you’ll get great results. You can get very big and strong with calisthenics, but you must do great volumes or use added weight. There are no more variations of upperbody pressing and pulling movements with weights then there are with pushups and pullups, so as far as variety and angles - you’re covered.
You can acheive a goal in different ways, this is just one of them that hasn’t been examined and researched very well.
Have any of you used the weighted vest? How do they work? If you buy a 75 pound one, can you adjust the weight, or is it simply 75 pounds? I have been looking into getting one, I think they are a great idea. Any suggestions?
I have Furey’s, Enamait’s, and Pavel’s books.
I’m not over 35, but as someone with a lot of experience with bodyweight exercises, I think I can still chime in. Before I had access to weights, I would do bodyweight workouts. At first, I didn’t know a thing about exercise, so each day, I would just do 1 set of pushups to failure, and 1 set of crunches to failure. Then, I got informed, and started performing differently.
I trained Pavel-style for about a year. This was actually my favorite program, because of the low repetitions that it allowed, with only bodyweight exercises. So I got quite strong with that program.
Furey and Enamait say many of the same things, and both have a good variety of bodyweight exercises. I like using those as a change of pace.
As someone mentioned already, gymnastics are a great thing for bodyweight exercises. I am currently looking into the bodyweight training of gymnasts. Scott Sonnon has an article on that in dragondoor.com
I want to try it out just as an experiment, and see what kind of results I get.
I use a vest from weightvest.com and I know that the Xvest is the same way in that you can adjust the weight from 2.5 to 75lbs in increments of 2.5lbs.(the Xvest may have different increments, though).
SFUK has reviews of almost all the systems and gurus. They are pretty informative and funny. You can pretty much get Furey and the Russian’s(fuck his name, I don’t wanna look it up) stuff online. I feel like both of them are just putting stuff out there to make money. John Petersen is pretty interesting. I haven’t read his book, but he has a pretty good physique and if he got it doing only what he preaches, then it is amazing. He seems pretty nice too. Doesn’t slam the other bodyweight guys.
Well, 41guy, look (sounds) great! I love hearing about “alternative” workout styles. When one falls in love with a particlar training protocol, ones mind often closes which is incredibly detrimental to ones progress.
Just compare Renegade (John Davies) to Westside (Joe DeFranco)… both have produced some of the fastest, toughest athletes around, yet the two programs have virtually nothing in common (VIRTUALLY).
[quote]foobar57 wrote:
Was wondering if anyone was familiar with the following bodyweight exercise programs:
- Ross Enamait, “The Underground Guide to Warrior Fitness”
- Tamir Katz, “TBK Fitness”
- Matt Furey, “Combat Conditioning”
- Pavel Tsatsouline, “The Naked Warrior”
- John Peterson, “Pushing Yourself to Power”
- John Davies, “Feel the Force”
Cheers -
foobar57 [/quote]
If you can get past all the hype I think Matt Furey has some outstanding body weight only movements.
I have tried some of his programs and found them to be outstanding and quite good for the body.
My problem is that I love Barbells and Dumbbells to much to ever go with body weight only for any length of time, but to each his own.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
Have any of you used the weighted vest? How do they work? If you buy a 75 pound one, can you adjust the weight, or is it simply 75 pounds? I have been looking into getting one, I think they are a great idea. Any suggestions?[/quote]
I own one and love it! It’s adjustable and great for doing hikes for cardio among many other things.
Pretzel -
Yeah, I read most of those reviews before I started the thread. I liked them as well - right now, I’m considering the Enemait or TBK programs, as it seems most of these programs cover a lot of the same ground, and if that’s the case, why not review one at the low price point?
ZEB -
I’m not giving up my weights either. But for a change of pace, to maybe condition outdoors, or while travelling, this seems interesting. It would seem that one uses complex (as opposed to isolated) movements in these programs, which is my primary interest. I would think it would also have a beneficial cardio-pulmonary effect.
Thanks all -
TEY
Hey, you never know when you might have to get the hell out of Dodge, and you gotta leave the weights home. I love lifting, but unfortunately you cant bring them everywhere. I think CT wrote an article on this too; “The MacGyver workout” I think it was called. He had a good routine in there.
What is John Davies’ book about? He’s an interesting fella, and I want to look into it.
I have both books by Ross and TBK and have to recommend the book by Ross Enamiat. The excersies, photos, routines, and instructions on interval training are excellent. And the plethora of inspiarional quotes will keep you motivated and focused. check out review on SFUK.
http://sfuk.tripod.com/reviews/enamait_warrior1.html
The TBK book doesn’t include photos only crude drawings and geared more toward the general population rather someone seeking an intense workout. Its not terrible and contains good info on dieting but Ross’s book seemed to fit my needs.
I’m currently greasing the groove with pavels naked warrior program as well as hitting the gym 2-3 times a week. I find the naked warrior program to be pretty good, i’ve learnt a lot of new strength techniques that can be used in many exercises, not just the 2 prescribed by pavel. I don’t always have access to weights so his program is excellent imo.
[quote]Psnatch wrote:
I’m currently greasing the groove with pavels naked warrior…[/quote]
Damn, Dude!!!
I think Matt Furey’s book had some interesting exercises in it. It is a pity he didn’t give actual routines in there. I also thought that for what I paid for it, it would be better presented.
I do bodyweight exercises about once a fortnight as a circuit. Great for cardio. Not so great for building slabs of muscle.
Pretzel logic wrote:
“John Petersen is pretty interesting. I haven’t read his book, but he has a pretty good physique and if he got it doing only what he preaches, then it is amazing. He seems pretty nice too. Doesn’t slam the other bodyweight guys.”
I got this book in a stack with many other s for a good deal. Petterson’s body isn’t really impressive - those are just really well zoomed photos. When you see the images inside the book you realise that he’s not that well developed. And he’s wearing rediculously retarded shorts above belly button that look just silly. Go to amazon and look inside the book - you’ll see. I can summerize the entire book for you in one sentance - “do 1500 pushups/day coupled with isometrics”. That’s litteraly all the helpful info there, the rest are PG-13 stories with Disney humor. No set, rep or workout guidelines. Save your time and money.
I just looked in the back of Combat Conditioning and he lists 4 routines there. Like the Karl Gotch bible.
Okay, yeah, it’s not a lot, but hey, they’re there.
And yeah, that sentence right below this one is pretty sick. heh heh
[quote]Massif wrote:
Psnatch wrote:
I’m currently greasing the groove with pavels naked warrior…
Damn, Dude!!!
I think Matt Furey’s book had some interesting exercises in it. It is a pity he didn’t give actual routines in there. I also thought that for what I paid for it, it would be better presented.
I do bodyweight exercises about once a fortnight as a circuit. Great for cardio. Not so great for building slabs of muscle.
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The best thing about BW exercise is that you can do these anywhere. Close your office door once an hour and do a few pushups and Hindus. I’m a high school teacher and I do these between (and sometimes during) classes. The kids often join in – one girl is actually on the wrestling team and she is f’n ripped! She says she does this too, several times throughout the day. The other kids leave her alone about it because she really could beat their asses!
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The best thing about BW exercise is that you can do these anywhere. Close your office door once an hour and do a few pushups and Hindus. I’m a high school teacher and I do these between (and sometimes during) classes. The kids often join in – one girl is actually on the wrestling team and she is f’n ripped! She says she does this too, several times throughout the day. The other kids leave her alone about it because she really could beat their asses![/quote]
Bet she has a hell of a time gettin a date though
im new to the site but ive been doing bodyweight training for a while, and my fav training game is cards or 52 pickup. grab a deck of cards and give each suit an exercise.
eg. hearts = push ups x 3
spades = squats x 5
diamonds = chin ups\pull ups x 1
clubs = situps x 3
(or choose any other exercises you like)
next pick a card and what ever you turn over you do that number of each exercise. 7 hearts means 7 multiplied by 3 = 21 push ups.
(push ups, squats and situps are done in multiples as they are easier than chin\pullups)
once youve done your set 30-60 secs rest then the next card, this is a good game for two or more people.
you can also use a dice and pick a card from the deck and roll the dice and multiply the two eg 6 clubs + dice roll of 4 = 24 situps. ( this i do with only half a deck )
i intertwine this type of training with weighted bodyweight exercises at the gym for variety.