[quote]Professor X wrote:
<<< LOL. You won’t stick with this anyway if your decision is based on whether someone can tell you how much time you have left to live. >>>[/quote]
What the hell has happened to the world right under my nose ROFLMAO!!!
He can try this http://www.whispy.com/
I swear it’s like most of these posters don’t even workout anymore. They must have seen the website advertised in some magazine for housewares and decorating tips and just decided to stop by to let us know they exist.
I don’t even understand someone waking up this morning and thinking, “You know, I think I’ll get into that bodybuilding stuff…if I can live to be 80. If not, I’m going jogging!” WTF? As if it is simply soo easy to gain muscle mass that by getting a gym membership, they will become instantly loaded down with 100lbs of extra body weight sending them to an early grave.
That’s actually an insult to anyone who spent years working their ass off to get big.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
<<< LOL. You won’t stick with this anyway if your decision is based on whether someone can tell you how much time you have left to live. >>>
What the hell has happened to the world right under my nose ROFLMAO!!!
He can try this [/quote]
What happened to Ms. Cleo? I thought she was the psychic authority on matters like this.
“Will I be hit by a bus?”
“No, I see very HUGE muscles in your future…therefore you shall die while shopping for XXXL shirts in a Structure outlet store after emotionally aggravating a heart attack due to only finding size “X-small” in the Men’s department and becoming confused as to why everything had lace on it.”
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
The average NFL player doesn’t live to 60. It is a hard life and they do die young.
Is this a real number? Of those that die so young - how many of them are from deteriorated health, and how many are from the mental aspect of not being able to adjust to life after football?
I find it hard to believe that of all the men that have played in the NFL - most of them never seeing any real playing time - the average life expectancy is 60.
Recent studies show that an NFL player’s average life expectancy is 55 years (52 for linemen). Meanwhile, life expectancy among the general American population reached an all-time high of 77.6 years in 2003, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report in February.
http://www.heraldnet.com/stories/05/10/20/100loc_afootball001.cfm
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Or perhaps it is bullshit cooked up by the players union.
This says they live longer than average.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Chances are, you don’t have the genetics to get very big to start with or else you would never have asked the question. that means worrying about weighing 300lbs of solid muscle when you are completely undeveloped is so stupid it isn’t even worth this response.[/quote]
Why am I being picked on?
I’ve been nice so far in this forum.
I know I am a newbie and the stuff I say could sound really stupid to you guys.
I have low body fat and high definitely. Both which I’m pretty happy with. Don’t know how safe it would be to put on 20 - 30 lbs.
The term bodybuilding needs to be defined a little bit more. Because Jack Lelane and Jeep Swenson both lifted weights. Jack is 92 and doing great. Jeep is busy pushing up daises.
Do you see the problem here?
[quote]cdxer wrote:
Don’t know how safe it would be to put on 20 - 30 lbs.[/quote]
Dude, statements like this are precisely why you are being ranked on. Why, for love of all things righteous, do you think gaining 20-30lbs of muscle would be “unsafe”?
[quote]subdivision wrote:
Chickenmcnug wrote:
But seriously, who gives a shit? Who wants to live that long anyways? I would rather be young and able and live to 80 then a feeble weakling who lives to 120.
That extra 40 years probably sucks. Nothing but hip pain, hospital treatments, and eating some nasty corn flavored ensure.
Amen. When I was a kid I had friends who would buy new toys and then not use them because they didn’t want them to get too ‘used’. I’d rather live my life all out than just try and live a long time. Quality over quantity, maybe?
But maybe this is drifting off topic
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Some toys appreciate with age. This guy’s toy will depreciate. Gaurunteed. Lol.
[quote]Sliver wrote:
The term bodybuilding needs to be defined a little bit more. Because Jack Lelane and Jeep Swenson both lifted weights. Jack is 92 and doing great. Jeep is busy pushing up daises.
Do you see the problem here?[/quote]
Not really, unless you are about to suggest that you know every single recreational drug that Swenson took, his eating habits, alcoholic intake and any other risky behavior that went on in his life.
There is a large problem when people start looking at people who die and trying to blame one culprit for why they aren’t breathing anymore simply because of how large they were.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, statements like this are precisely why you are being ranked on. Why, for love of all things righteous, do you think gaining 20-30lbs of muscle would be “unsafe”? [/quote]
For me, I need to eat a lot more to gain weight than other people. Low body fat, high definition, im sure you heard and talked to many people like this. If I were to gain weight with 4k - 5k a day, not sure what that might do to me [considering the calorie restriction articles] and [the amount of stress it might have on my digestive system]
[quote]cdxer wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dude, statements like this are precisely why you are being ranked on. Why, for love of all things righteous, do you think gaining 20-30lbs of muscle would be “unsafe”?
For me, I need to eat a lot more to gain weight than other people. Low body fat, high definition, im sure you heard and talked to many people like this. If I were to gain weight with 4k - 5k a day, not sure what that might do to me [considering the calorie restriction articles] and [the amount of stress it might have on my digestive system]
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Many people on this board have higher metabolisms. 4,000cals a day is barely enough for me to maintain my weight, and that’s if I don’t do any cardio.
This entire thread has already laid this out for you. You were even linked to an article that discussed this entire topic. That means if you are still confused, it is because you want to be. You WANT to believe that eating more is dangerous and “unsafe”. You won’t find one shred of evidence saying, “humans live shorter lives if they eat 4,000cals a day than if they starve themselves”.
Quit asking the same question over and over as if no one has answered you already. If you want to believe that, then fucking believe it. Get out of the gym and stay off of the equipment. I doubt anyone cares if you stop lifting simply because you read that spider monkeys live longer by only eating soy leaves and less than 200cals a day.
[quote]cdxer wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Dude, statements like this are precisely why you are being ranked on. Why, for love of all things righteous, do you think gaining 20-30lbs of muscle would be “unsafe”?
For me, I need to eat a lot more to gain weight than other people. Low body fat, high definition, im sure you heard and talked to many people like this. If I were to gain weight with 4k - 5k a day, not sure what that might do to me [considering the calorie restriction articles] and [the amount of stress it might have on my digestive system]
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Do you think that everyone who has ever been big in the past DIDNT have to eat a lot to get that way. The fact that you need a higher number of calories points to the fact that your body burns what you are taking in more quickly and that it has the capacity to handle a higher food intake.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Tiribulus wrote:
Professor X wrote:
<<< LOL. You won’t stick with this anyway if your decision is based on whether someone can tell you how much time you have left to live. >>>
What the hell has happened to the world right under my nose ROFLMAO!!!
He can try this
What happened to Ms. Cleo? I thought she was the psychic authority on matters like this.
“Will I be hit by a bus?”
“No, I see very HUGE muscles in your future…therefore you shall die while shopping for XXXL shirts in a Structure outlet store after emotionally aggravating a heart attack due to only finding size “X-small” in the Men’s department and becoming confused as to why everything had lace on it.”[/quote]
LOL!
This guy is wasting his time and ours. Not to be “hateful and negative”, but nobody with this mindset is ever going to do what it takes.
At least not while he remains ensnared in the misconception that there’s a calculator somewhere he can put some numbers in and be given the date of his death under varying physical states.
[quote]Sliver wrote:
The term bodybuilding needs to be defined a little bit more. Because Jack Lelane and Jeep Swenson both lifted weights. Jack is 92 and doing great. Jeep is busy pushing up daises.
Do you see the problem here?[/quote]
Daisies are too light to be an effective workout.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
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At least not while he remains ensnared in the misconception that there’s a calculator somewhere he can put some numbers in and be given the date of his death under varying physical states.[/quote]
Try to pay attention. I already posted this.
I would rather live a long, rich, full life - like this guy (a poster child for the calorie restriction movement) undoubtedly will.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
n3wb wrote:
I didnt say steroids was THE reason a NFL player would die, steroids affect blood pressure liver joints and all kinds of shit and I doubt that these guys were takeing controlled cycles. Steroids them self wont kill you they will just weaken and dammage certain parts of your body and with bad health to start with and tons of other perscription drugs that could lead to death over a period of time.
EDIT: How did I forget about the fact that they play NFL football.
You use words like “may” and “could”. I am looking for words like “will” and “do”.
Bad knees don’t shorten one’s life span. How many NFL players have died from steroid related hepatic, or renal disease?
I am not saying that the misuse of AAS is not dangerous, but in the scheme of things, I don’t think you can say it has anything to do with a made up fact that NFL players die young.
I think it AAS is an easy, lazy scapegoat. I would dare say that poor diet, poor training, and repeated high speed collisions have had a more detrimental affect on the long-term health of an NFL player than any amount of AAS. Additionally - I would be willing to bet there are tons more rec drugs used in the NFL than steroids. Just ask Michael Irvin, or LT.
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Yup. Good post.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Sliver wrote:
The term bodybuilding needs to be defined a little bit more. Because Jack Lelane and Jeep Swenson both lifted weights. Jack is 92 and doing great. Jeep is busy pushing up daises.
Do you see the problem here?
Not really, unless you are about to suggest that you know every single recreational drug that Swenson took, his eating habits, alcoholic intake and any other risky behavior that went on in his life.
There is a large problem when people start looking at people who die and trying to blame one culprit for why they aren’t breathing anymore simply because of how large they were.[/quote]
My point (which you missed) was that lifting had absolutely nothing to do with how long they lived.
But now that you brought it up. Jeeps doctors said that they wouldn’t even think of cutting him open unless he was 100 pounds lighter. So yes, his is dead simply because of how large he was.
[quote]CaliforniaLaw wrote:
I would rather live a long, rich, full life - like this guy (a poster child for the calorie restriction movement) undoubtedly will.[/quote]
Hey, that’s the guy from Rate My Physique forum!!!