Oh I also forgot to mention that I know the first 2 weeks you have to be virtually 0 carbs, so am i not allowed to take in any fiber either? because i been doing it for 7 days now eating just meat and 2 tbls flax with each of my 6 meals. The scary part is i havent went to the bathroom in those 7 days!
[quote]asifmir1981 wrote:
Oh I also forgot to mention that I know the first 2 weeks you have to be virtually 0 carbs, so am i not allowed to take in any fiber either? because i been doing it for 7 days now eating just meat and 2 tbls flax with each of my 6 meals. The scary part is i havent went to the bathroom in those 7 days! [/quote]
Subtract fibre from your carb intake, it doesnt count! Eat lots of green leafy veggies. And if you have not shit in 7 days I would be worried.
[quote]asifmir1981 wrote:
Oh I also forgot to mention that I know the first 2 weeks you have to be virtually 0 carbs, so am i not allowed to take in any fiber either? because i been doing it for 7 days now eating just meat and 2 tbls flax with each of my 6 meals. The scary part is i havent went to the bathroom in those 7 days! [/quote]
How is that even humanly possible to not pass for 7 days ??
What you do is superdose Magnesium - 1000mg - 1400mg should do it, it will clear you out in no time.
And as he said i’d be VERY worried if i didn’t pass in 7 days lol feel bloated much ?
NO! fiber does not count toward your CHO total. Good grief! Doc specifically states this in the original AD and all his subsequent works. This is why you should RESEARCH a diet before you start it.
go to the orignial AD thread and read all of my posts if you want to understand the diet.
Know what you are doing before you just jump in guys.
DH
^ Not to be taken in a condescending tone, BTW. ;0
Thanks so much guys I will defintely try the magnesium thing. I did start the fiber yesterday and I did go once but not very much. I dont get it fiber doesnt work for me like it does for some poeple. It actually made me feel a little more bloated… anything I can take with that? DH I guess I basically read so many different articles about low carb dieting that I got confused. I actually saw on one forum that even fiber can mess things up. Its amazing the different stuff you see in forums. But I never did read the anabolic diet book and I probably should. Thanks again guys!
Hello,
I am in the AD diet since last October, and lost 26lbs. Until now, loosing fat was my primary purpose, and I tried to maintain muscle mass.
Now I’m wondering if I could not better preserve muscle mass by adding carbs para-workout, for instance 20g of dextrose post-workout ?
I have been pretty carb phobic while the week until now (except for the carb up week of course) and tried to be under 20g every day (I’m 149lbs, for an avereage of 10-12% BF, 1m76 tall). I had no carbs para-workout until now.
1 - Does adding 20g of dextrose post-workout would ‘break’ the diet and it’s effectiveness ?
Or would it be effective to diminish muscle breakdown while staying fat adapted ?
2 - As a last question, does a huge carb up week (2 full days) could help build a little muscle, or would do nothing at all considering the caloric deficit while the week ?
I am aware that CT told that 2 days are way too much, and I understand why, this is just in my case easier to socialize while the week end… so I accept to have slower results.
Regards,
Guillaume.
[quote]asifmir1981 wrote:
Thanks so much guys I will defintely try the magnesium thing. I did start the fiber yesterday and I did go once but not very much. I dont get it fiber doesnt work for me like it does for some poeple. It actually made me feel a little more bloated… anything I can take with that? DH I guess I basically read so many different articles about low carb dieting that I got confused. I actually saw on one forum that even fiber can mess things up. Its amazing the different stuff you see in forums. But I never did read the anabolic diet book and I probably should. Thanks again guys! [/quote]
Taking fibre WITHOUT water will make you more constipated. You have to have adequate water with your fibre otherwise you’ll be worse off than you were.
I am doing the fiber with 12-16 glasses of water and IM doing a little better now but I still feel stuff in my stomach… I mean this diet works for me everytime but no matter what I seem to do I still dont have regular bowel movements. Anything else I can throw in the mix?
Yes. That is why you stick to the original expert. Di Pasquale. I also very much like Rob Faigins’ book Natural Hormonal Enhancement.
The rest are like dingle-berries (my apologies to the fairer sex). They smell like **** and just keep hanging around dependent on the actual source for their survival. 
DH
[quote]asifmir1981 wrote:
Thanks so much guys I will defintely try the magnesium thing. I did start the fiber yesterday and I did go once but not very much. I dont get it fiber doesnt work for me like it does for some poeple. It actually made me feel a little more bloated… anything I can take with that? DH I guess I basically read so many different articles about low carb dieting that I got confused. I actually saw on one forum that even fiber can mess things up. Its amazing the different stuff you see in forums. But I never did read the anabolic diet book and I probably should. Thanks again guys! [/quote]
Eat lots of salad, green beans, and other cruciferous veggies. Its easier than using an actual fiber product. And much healthier too.
I just addressed this very issue in the AD thread. It should help you out.
DH
[quote]guillaume76 wrote:
Hello,
I am in the AD diet since last October, and lost 26lbs. Until now, loosing fat was my primary purpose, and I tried to maintain muscle mass.
Now I’m wondering if I could not better preserve muscle mass by adding carbs para-workout, for instance 20g of dextrose post-workout ?
I have been pretty carb phobic while the week until now (except for the carb up week of course) and tried to be under 20g every day (I’m 149lbs, for an avereage of 10-12% BF, 1m76 tall). I had no carbs para-workout until now.
1 - Does adding 20g of dextrose post-workout would ‘break’ the diet and it’s effectiveness ?
Or would it be effective to diminish muscle breakdown while staying fat adapted ?
2 - As a last question, does a huge carb up week (2 full days) could help build a little muscle, or would do nothing at all considering the caloric deficit while the week ?
I am aware that CT told that 2 days are way too much, and I understand why, this is just in my case easier to socialize while the week end… so I accept to have slower results.
Regards,
Guillaume.[/quote]
For fibre, eat vegetables that its charbs are in its undigesteble fibre (at least high % of it), like cruciferous, lettuce, spinach, etc.
With cruciferous you have the advantaje of the Indole 3 Carbinol, helping to reduce the aromatization to strogens and great cancer weapon.
Sorry about my poor english, i hope u guys understand it.
I’ve been competing in bodybuilding for several years and always followed the typical steady-as-she-goes approach with low fat, moderate carbs and relatively high protein. I slowly pulled out carbs as my diet progressed to get my body fat down. Getting into contest condition was never really a problem so long as I suffered and hated bodybuilding by the day of the show - this indicated I was ripped.
After two contests in the spring I took a short break before training and dieting for a contest in September (last month). Two weeks into my tried-and-true diet I hit the wall motivation-wise. I simply knew I didn’t have the willpower to go through another 15 weeks of my typical diet and decided to try something completely new.
Unaware of the AD or any other “name brand” diet I decided to go very low carb and higher fat. Training and dieting to make a certain weight I figured this would help me drop down in a hurry, but to my surprise it didn’t occur. My weight stayed stubbornly the same, strength did not drop and my energy levels were much better than with my previous diet. Long-story-short I got in the best shape of my life and barely made weight at weigh-ins.
I’ve since learned that I was basically following the AD with a two-meal/four-hour carb reload on Saturday. I’m half-way through reading the Anabolic Solution and the key is tailoring the AD to your body. I learned I don’t do well with carbs so a couple high carb meals on Saturday was all I needed. I actually dropped the carb meals altogether the last 4 weeks just to ensure I made weight.
I have one more competition in November, but plan to stick with the AD indefinitely…just adding in more calories and possibly a bit more carbs on my carb-up day to aid muscle gain. For me personally the AD diet kicks ass and once customized to your body works quite well.
hey guys is there another ‘my experience on the anabolic diet’ thread? the other two have been closed. I have a few questions!
Thanks for all the great information and advice for training! Also, congrats to all of the people that have been successful with body building. In today’s society, it is hard to stay on track becasuse of all the fast food industries lurking around every corner.
I believe that a well balanced diet revolves around eating healthy and maintaining a workout regiment that best fits your body type. If you are looking to count your calories and keep track of what you are eating, head over to http://www.FitClick.com and try the Online Calorie Counter. This counter helps count your calories so you don’t have to! Good Luck!
Bump.
Beacause we need more vets in here who’ve used the AD for bulking.
I’m planning to use the AD for bulking (the bulk starts today). I’ll perhaps deviate from it in a cyclical manner (doing at least AD for 3 week periods with with small carb ups (~100 gram) every 4-7 days)… Then maybe I’ll do 1-2 weeks of TKD, where my diet is like CT’s here: Strength Training, Bodybuilding & Online Supplement Store - T NATION My main reason to tweak the plan is to keep things fun, but also since I got great fat loss results from following the TKD approach, and I also want to try AD, but they are not compatible to do at the same exact time. I don’t know the exact details but I will detail it all out in my training log here: Forums - T Nation - The World's Trusted Community for Elite Fitness and once I get the details worked out I’ll come back to this thread and give my plan.
Goal: Bulk - keep BF under 10% while bulking up and trying to gain as much muscle (at least 20 pounds of muscle) in 12 weeks.
[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:
BTW, just a correction regarding ATP. ATP is the ONLY fuel source that the body can use. When ATP is depleted the body will use different substrates to produce new ATP and replenish the reserves.
So this tells us that during ‘‘regular bodybuilding’’ training (sets of 6-12 reps lasting 30-60 seconds), glycogen would indeed be the only way to efficiently fuel your workouts. Ketones could also be used, but the lower energy production speed would be too slow to allow the maintenance of the same intensity.
HOWEVER if one is performing work that relies more on the phosphagen system (ATP and creatine) … sets of 1-5 reps lasting 20 seconds or less … training intensity should not be affected by a ketogenic diet since glucose is not super important during those sets AND that ATP is replenished between sets either by using ketones or fat.[/quote]
Okay, so it has been awhile since anyone posted in this thread, but here goes… Taking the above info into consideration, should one keep reps low (and total number of sets higher) if training on low (or no) carbs?
Who’s still doing this?