100 mg TRT devided in 50mg E3,5 days. Mon and Thursday.
After 4 weeks my total Testosterone at through:559
Blood was taken Monday before the next shot. 4 days after Thursday. My peak is probably higher?!?
E2: 24
Free testosterone middle in the range. 17.
No libido at all. Feel tired.
I feel best when my total T is around 900-1000.
How much should I increase dose now?
70 mg every 3,5 days? Or higher?
Your number seem pretty good to me for a trough day. If its not working for you I wouldn’t jump 40%. What does your doc say? IMO try 60mg E3.5 first for another 6 weeks. Even on current protocol 4 weeks is a little early to make changes.
I am doing it without doc.
Yeah the numbers are ok. But the thing is a couple days ago i have injected 200 mg just to see what happens. My Energie is way up and my libido is there again. Thinking about sex in the morning etc.
I have made a blood test to see what’s going on and my TT is 1000. That’s why I think maybe i should increase the dosage. I don’t mind taking arimidex or Aromasin as long as I feel good.
That’s why I thought 70 mg E3,5 days would put my through to 1000?!?
Is there really a through at 3,5 days frequency? I thought it would be stable?!?
But yeah the through number is 4 days after last pin…
This is called a PLACEBO effect. You would not ‘feel’ a higher injection in just a few days.
yes your trough is the last day before your next pin. The more often you pin the more stable your numbers will be and the difference between your peak/trough will be less.
No it’s definitely not Placebo. 4 days later i could feel the effect. I didn’t have libido since starting the 100 mg protocol. So i could really feel when I infected 200 mg. Obviously my total t went to a number my body was comfortable with. I just don’t know how to reach that number of 1000 total…70 mg, 80 mg every 3,5 days?!? Or just 60 mg but that would put my through after 4-6 weeks maybe to 700 considering 100 mg put my through at 559
You need to give these protocols more time, 4 weeks is very early to be expecting to feel like superman with erections of steel. Don’t get trapped in this endless cycle of changing the dosages all the time.
It’s temporary, the increase in T increases the release of dopamine but the body will adjust and down regulate the effect to a normal level. You just need to give it time.
Ok guys. I will continue the 100 mg for another 6-8 weeks. I just think a through of 559 is very bad.all the stress of injections etc for such a low through??
I would like to have my through at least at 800. But 559 is really bad. After 4 weeks there is not much more room for increase. Maybe 600 and that’s it.
I want optimal levels and 559 is definitely not optimal.
In those 4 weeks i have made a couple of blood tests. I also tested my peak. It’s just 100 points more than my through. So i am between 559 and 660-670 all the time. This explains why i felt like shit all the time.
So you guys think i should not even increase the dosage to 60 mg E3,5 days?
Sure, try it and see. We really can’t tell you how much more to take, just go up in small increments and get the labs, see how you feel
If after sometime at 500 you don´t feel your best, give it an up to, let´s say, 700. Try to make it work there for long term safety and do small adjustments at a time without frequent changes.
The majority of normal human beings without TRT don´t really have 1.000ng/dl serum levels of total testosterone. This is actually the top of the normal range for a male.
4 weeks isn’t enough time to know for sure. If you’re doing this on your own, and you want to bump up the dose, why not try 150mg per week split into 2 doses? If you do change the dose, I’d give it 8 weeks MINIMUM before you make any more adjustments. When I’ve changed my protocol, I’ve needed a good 10-12 weeks before I level off.
So you guys think that with 100 mg my through level could get higher if i continue with the protocol?
Yes I will probably increase the dose slightly
No your blood levels report back sooner than what you ‘feel’. If you ‘want’ it higher you will need to increase your dose. Like I stated before you can’t get your normalize feelings for comparison without waiting say 6-8 weeks. So if you are not happy currently, pick your poisen. 60 or 70mg E3.5. Then ride that for 6-8 weeks.
Ok thanks
These are your trough levels, I would hardly consider a trough of 559 and an E2 of 24 as bad.
Your average T level over a 24 hour period is higher than most natural men, but at the end of the day and given more time on this protocol, if you feel better at 900, then by all means bump up the dosage.
I decided to give it 6-8 weeks with 100 mg to see what happens. If i still feel bad i will bump up the dose. Thanks for the help ya all
Increase the dose, waiting Will do Nothing. Now lets see IF in correct. Lots of nonsense here, waiting 8 weeks lmfao
Nobody suggested he wait further to increase dose. We suggested he give it 6-8 weeks before making protocol changes. This is based on pharmacology and response time which is in multiple studies. But keep on polluting the forums.
Cool, show me a study where testosterone takes 8 fucking weeks to affect sex responsen, im sure these scientists observing differences within actual freaking 15 minutes in animals and humans applying testosterone gels would be very much amused.
This community, Jesus…
Here you go moron. As stated protocols should be changed in the 6-8 week period. Why? Because studies show changes in libido start, yes start, in 3-4 weeks and usually at 6 weeks have peaked. Then you have to assess the situation. There’s a reason every decent doc around recommends this. I guess you could have googled it yourself but your intelligence is obviously limited. Another reason to wait is because physical improvements other than libido take even longer. I doubt you understand how to read studies but since you asked…