25 yo , Test E 250 once a week + EQ 200 once a week every Friday the cycle was given by the best bodybuilder/coach in my country and he says some changes will be done after the 3rd week (should I split the 250 test to twice a week of 125 or do you think it doesnt matter?), here are my bloods for now, had low test for some reason
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What country are you from? If he’s the best, I fear for your well being.
More… your test looks to be bad gear. You’re FSH/LH are still working and your test numbers are normal. 250mg/wk test is low for a cycle and while is possible to get these numbers on a trough day you would still have ~0 FSH/LH if the Testosterone were real. Its rarely fake but yours appears so.
I took it as this was pre cycle blood work?
I am currently in Europe and I’m not fully convinced also, what’s so bad about the cycle? or is it with the bloods
The title of his post is “Bloods Before First Cycle”
OP these were taken before the cycle, no?
Also, this isn’t much of a cycle. You’ll see results, but not much. I think you’ll be sorely disappointed. I’d fire my coach if I were you.
And to answer your question, splitting the 250x1 into 125x2 will not make much difference in the long term. You may feel a slight difference the first few pins, but after the drugs reach steady state, nah.
Ohh I’m sorry this is pre cycle bloods, my english aint that good sometimes, these bloods are before, pinned first time two days ago , gonna do a blood test after 6 weeks to check how they will look like on a cycle, after the first pin the next day I felt a difference in my veins and energy (maybe placebo effect).
Sorry @wanna_be you look to be right. Nothing wrong with your bloods if natty. Whats wrong with your ccyle? Doses too low for effectiveness and risk/reward. EQ is a bad drug if you plan to PCT. Your RBC is already slightly high and EQ makes this worse. I could go on.
Thats what I get for multi-tasking!
Yep, pre cycle blood work
Ha ha you keep Tnation minimized on your work desktop, too, huh?
You’re still spot on, his cycle is not ideal and he needs a new coach.
yep before cycle, I feel the same about it being not enough, I guess I am firing him and going for the 250mg test twice a week so I’ll be able to learn to control estrogen , already got enough test for this cycle also he got me everything needed for PCT. Thanks a lot for the help!
extra question if it was 200 EQ + 250 Test e every 5 days will be enough? cuz I guess he wrote once a week by fault, when we met face to face before it he said every 5th day
I don’t think we have enough info. I am not a big fan of EQ for the guys doing a PCT, but it has been done a lot with good success. With that being said, OP did mention:
I don’t have an issue with guys starting slow. We don’t know what the coach has in store yet. He could bump the test dosage if all is going well, or order blood work. It seems like a conservative approach which I think is preferable to what most BB coaches go with (they want you to see results, so they have you hop on a giant cycle, and then when you are looking muscular AF, they go, see look what my coaching did).
I am not agreeing with every thing here, but I also don’t have enough evidence yet that the coach is bad.
LOL yes sir. I’ve been slacking lately. I used to jump on to ‘help’ all the time but I’ve been soooo busy at work lately. I’m probably going to be on less and less. I do plan on starting my HGH/test/primo blast soon. I may post my progress but we will see.
He 100% said all of this. he said we start slowly and see how your body reacts then we do bloods, I told him I don’t care if its slow as long as I get as little sides as possible and look saucy for the summer
Your coach actually sounds responsible compared to what I have seen here regarding other people’s cycles they get from their BBer coaches. IMO, this is one of the best ones I have seen (I prepare myself for shock when someone makes a post about a cycle they got from their coach). Your cycle is almost underwhelming, but I’ll take that any day over a giant cycle for a newbie. The fact he made you do pre cycle bloods, is starting you slow and doing more bloods is a good sign.
Keep posting here when he makes changes. We can help you determine if it is well thought out.
Thanks a lot man, you guys are awesome, hope will be able to help the same later in life.
Edit: will be posting everything he changes in my cycle
Just so we are clear, I am not a huge fan of the cycle. Just many coaches have beyond stupid cycle recommendations. I think you would be better off starting on 4-500 mg/wk test, but your coach may be dialing you in on Test / EQ as that has some advantages if one knows how they respond to the combo (lower E2, lower androgen load). I don’t know enough about your coach to make a determination basically. I am not saying he is good either.
Make sure he can answer your questions in ways that make logical sense. If you just need to trust him on everything, probably not a great coach.
You’re a huge help on here. The forum will feel the absence for sure. Definitely update us on that summer blast.
No matter who your coach is, remember to EAT!
I catch a lot of crap on here for saying this all the time but…
if he does ramp you up to 400-500 mgs Test or more, eat like you’ve never eaten before. Food is the most anabolic part of any cycle.
4,000 calories on 250mgs of Test > 3,000 calories on 500mgs of Test.
