HOMERSeCZuAHs
[quote]Nikki9591 wrote:
I gotta say that I enjoyed the beater very much.
Amazin’ arm day.[/quote]
<3 Glad you enjoyed it haha. Sometimes I feel like “that guy” when I work out in one, but as long as I’m working hard, I don’t really care. There is a guy who always wears a beater every time, has a flat top, and yells when he lifts. We call him “J-shore”.
Thanks! I was pretty happy with it, though the tricep exercises could have been better.
[quote]AquaCruzer wrote:
[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
Done. Tyler and I both happened to wear black beaters…for an arm day. We were like “oh shit…brodown!”[/quote]
Nice curling PR and lol at you and Tyler matching.[/quote]
Thanks man! haha yeah it was pretty funny. Bro-tastic.
Swole. Upload dem Matt room pics.
Lookin thick…
or is the proper term ‘swole?’
Results add up over time…all of a sudden you wake up feeling like you can lift the world and wear booty shorts…
well, for me anyway 
The hard part is killin it during the weeks that aren’t so good.
KEEP IT UP!!!
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…[/quote]
Neutral grip floor press like that emphasizes triceps and is literally no chest work. What other compound movements are there to add to his training? He squats, benches, deadlifts and military presses…those are the 4 key compound movements, unless you are talking about olympic lifts?
But is a floor press better than a close grip bench press as far as the triceps are concerned? Doubt it. I see he does deads/squats etc…but on his arm day he is doing lots of dumb random shit…Saying he oughtta focus on heavier movements rather than isolations
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
But is a floor press better than a close grip bench press as far as the triceps are concerned? Doubt it. I see he does deads/squats etc…but on his arm day he is doing lots of dumb random shit…Saying he oughtta focus on heavier movements rather than isolations[/quote]
I think a floor press is better for triceps because of the range of motion. A close grip bench is fine too but the pecs push more…floor presses basically start with the triceps.
Its like doing a shoulder press that starts above your head…
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…[/quote]
WHAT IS ANY OF THIS???
There,s nothing wrong with body english on curls. Body english is.
Why wouldn’t you count the curls? if the dude gets sore in the biceps which causes growth what’s wrong?
And why would anyone wait to add iso moves?
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
HOMERSeCZuAHs[/quote]
Hmmm…somehow this didn’t show up until this morning…dark forces are at play. haha.
[quote]mom-in-MD wrote:
Lookin thick…
or is the proper term ‘swole?’
Results add up over time…all of a sudden you wake up feeling like you can lift the world and wear booty shorts…
well, for me anyway
The hard part is killin it during the weeks that aren’t so good.
KEEP IT UP!!! [/quote]
Ha. Thick works just fine. Thanks! Personally, not a booty short kinda guy haha. Just trying to stay consistent and keep up the progress at this point.
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
But is a floor press better than a close grip bench press as far as the triceps are concerned? Doubt it. I see he does deads/squats etc…but on his arm day he is doing lots of dumb random shit…Saying he oughtta focus on heavier movements rather than isolations[/quote]
I usually do CGBP instead of floor press as my first tricep exercise. If you had gone back even one page in my log, you would have seen that.
Outside of BB curls and CGBP, what other heavy, non-isolation movements are there for arms?
I have a couple heavy curl variations, and for triceps I have a heavy press and a heavy extension, then a couple exercises just to finish off and get blood in the muscle.
As far as the curls go, I know my form isn’t perfect (and have admitted as much). I do know that I’ve been adding weight or reps almost every week, without my form getting any worse. To me, that means I’m doing something right.
Ok…arm day…heavy movements rather than isolations? Its an arm day…other than cgbp what heavy compound movements are you going to do on an arm day??? I’m not seeing your point
[quote]pbclax1 wrote:
Ok…arm day…heavy movements rather than isolations? Its an arm day…other than cgbp what heavy compound movements are you going to do on an arm day??? I’m not seeing your point[/quote]
Like heavy skullcrushers/extensions, weighted dips perhaps, CGBP for tri’s, for biceps BB curls, Hammers, preachers maybe…I understand that arms can’t really have many non-isolations but spider curls, floor press? really? get rid of the dumb shit and stick to the basics…
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…[/quote]
WHAT IS ANY OF THIS???
There,s nothing wrong with body english on curls. Body english is.
Why wouldn’t you count the curls? if the dude gets sore in the biceps which causes growth what’s wrong?
And why would anyone wait to add iso moves? [/quote]
Really? body english is ok? that is probably the stupidest shit to ever say…you probably have ice cream before your workouts too…pretty much you are saying FUCK form, do you half ass your squats too? maybe you like to only go 50% down on your presses too and call it good…
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…[/quote]
WHAT IS ANY OF THIS???
There,s nothing wrong with body english on curls. Body english is.
Why wouldn’t you count the curls? if the dude gets sore in the biceps which causes growth what’s wrong?
And why would anyone wait to add iso moves? [/quote]
Really? body english is ok? that is probably the stupidest shit to ever say…you probably have ice cream before your workouts too…pretty much you are saying FUCK form, do you half ass your squats too? maybe you like to only go 50% down on your presses too and call it good…
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You know man, the training log sections are for the most part free of the mindless bickering and bullshit that pollutes the main forums. How about we try and keep it that way?? Its also not wise to put words in the mouths of others and hurl insults for no reason. If you have a legit concern/comment/critique, voice it in a civil manner and do your level best to help other folks. Its nice without the drama in here.
Look, if blaze were to want to enter a strict curl comp, then yeah, his form might need some work. As far as a pure hypertrophey mechanism, those curls looked fine. English there was minimal, and body english can be used to good effect on various lifts if you know what you are doing anyway. Partial range of motion lifts are also not “bad” by default either.
To be honest, I think you need a bit more seasoning before randomly throwing around advice. A great many different lifts can be used in a variety of ways to achieve certain goals.(How’s that for the most vague statement of the day??). It would be best to not dismiss something out of hand simply because it does not fit into what you already believe/think you know about lifting. The distinction between what a lift is going to do/not do is not as cut and dry as you make it.
Ah, and nice lifting Blaze.
[quote]Blaze_108 wrote:
Outside of BB curls and CGBP, what other heavy, non-isolation movements are there for arms?
I have a couple heavy curl variations, and for triceps I have a heavy press and a heavy extension, then a couple exercises just to finish off and get blood in the muscle.
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Heavy arm type movements:
For biceps:
Hammer curls, pinwheel curls, weighted chins with supinated grip(palms facing you, focus on the range of motion that you feel your biceps doing most of the work. This option is somewhat dependent on the person being good at chins to begin with though.), standing barbell curls, etc.
Triceps:
JM press in the smith or with a barbell, close grip bench, reverse grip bench, overhead lockout presses(bar set on pins in the rack at about the top half of the movement, standing or seated) neutral grip DB presses(incline, flat bench, or floor), swiss bar presses of any type(if you have a swiss bar that is), various extensions and such.
Its worth noting that not all of these can be neatly categorized as “isolation” or “compound” moves.
I probably left a few out, but when you get down to it, there is quite a bit to choose from.
Hope my gibberish was usefull in some way. Good lifts man, and keep killing it.
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…[/quote]
WHAT IS ANY OF THIS???
There,s nothing wrong with body english on curls. Body english is.
Why wouldn’t you count the curls? if the dude gets sore in the biceps which causes growth what’s wrong?
And why would anyone wait to add iso moves? [/quote]
Really? body english is ok? that is probably the stupidest shit to ever say…you probably have ice cream before your workouts too…pretty much you are saying FUCK form, do you half ass your squats too? maybe you like to only go 50% down on your presses too and call it good…
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1.Body English and bad form are two completely different things bro.
- Cheat curls are a real exercise ya know?
And if by ice cream you mean frozen natty PB with whey powder and bananas blended in, yes I eat ice cream before I work out…
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
What’s the point in doing a friggin’ floor press on arm days? Also, you should cut out all the dumb isolation exercises and use more compound movements, once you put on enough size and strength that’s the time to start adding in isolation work…PS work on your form too because I wouldn’t count any of those BB curls (Your swinging too much and jerking the weight) Lower the weight some and try keeping your elbows right by your side and just using your Bi’s…[/quote]
WHAT IS ANY OF THIS???
There,s nothing wrong with body english on curls. Body english is.
Why wouldn’t you count the curls? if the dude gets sore in the biceps which causes growth what’s wrong?
And why would anyone wait to add iso moves? [/quote]
Really? body english is ok? that is probably the stupidest shit to ever say…you probably have ice cream before your workouts too…pretty much you are saying FUCK form, do you half ass your squats too? maybe you like to only go 50% down on your presses too and call it good…
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What Blaze is doing seems to be working for HIM. Why should he give a damn if you think he’s doing “dumb shit” if it is working for him and he sees progress??? Way to give out great constructive criticism. Its great that your first post in here is a completely demeaning post with absolutely nothing positive in it…
ANYWAYS, this is Blaze’s log…
Keep doing what youre doing blaze, you’re killing it and you know that. Progress is the name of the game.
[quote]Hintonshawn88 wrote:
[quote]pbclax1 wrote:
Ok…arm day…heavy movements rather than isolations? Its an arm day…other than cgbp what heavy compound movements are you going to do on an arm day??? I’m not seeing your point[/quote]
Like heavy skullcrushers/extensions, weighted dips perhaps, CGBP for tri’s, for biceps BB curls, Hammers, preachers maybe…I understand that arms can’t really have many non-isolations but spider curls, floor press? really? get rid of the dumb shit and stick to the basics…[/quote]
Lets see…out of all those lifts you posted, I normally do them all except weighted dips (they give me shoulder pain). Spider curls are a variation of a preacher curl, in which the upper arm is perpendicular to the ground instead of angled away from it, and place more tension on the bicep.
You’re catching so much flack, because you’re not being conducive to a good environment in my log. If you had written your original post as:
“Why are you doing floor press and all those isolation exercises? You might get better results by focusing on heavy compounds instead. Is there any reason you’re not tightening up your form on curls?”
You would have gotten a better response. I hate a lot of the drama that goes around with these forums. As long as I keep getting good results, I don’t really have a reason to change up my training style. If you can’t keep things civil and constructive, please avoid posting in my log. Thanks.
Pbclax-thanks for the support man.
DoW- Thanks man. I’ll have to look through those lifts and remember to check them out whenever I feel like switching up my arm day.
Rock- Totally agree on not avoiding isolations and how perfect form isn’t always necessary. Thanks for stopping in!
haha flack? you think i give a rats arse? definitely not…and none of my “mean” demeanor was directed towards you anyways. Pretty sure all i asked was why your doing a friggin floor press and said to get rid of the crappy form.
Also never said none of your workouts are working for you, but when you get to a certain point with your gains, sloppy form is only gonna hurt you (especially with heavier weights…)