We’ll probably be competing against each other someday 
Them some thunder thighs.
[quote]ebomb5522 wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:
lol @ 6ft 250 in decent condition and not feeling big. Prob the biggest natty in the logs section.[/quote]
wow thanks man, i have body dysmorphia for sure so i dont know if ill ever feel big, oh well at least i can feel strong eventually[/quote]
Lol, ya that’s the problem with bodybuilding. You are never content with your size.[/quote]
and im an obssessive person in nature so its a constant mental battle lol
@Spar4tee - that would be the coolest thing ever lol, what are you going for EXACTLY? wsm?
@mmat - haha thanks man, theyve improved a lot since ive been working them out consistently
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
@Spar4tee - that would be the coolest thing ever lol, what are you going for EXACTLY? wsm?
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Ima try
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
@Spar4tee - that would be the coolest thing ever lol, what are you going for EXACTLY? wsm?
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Ima try[/quote]
I might too if i can get strong enough lol
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
@Spar4tee - that would be the coolest thing ever lol, what are you going for EXACTLY? wsm?
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Ima try[/quote]
I might too if i can get strong enough lol[/quote]
That’s the plan 
Jeez you are my same height but so much bigger. Shit i think you are leaner than I am too FML.
Great job man.
Awh yeah new log I’m in.
@Ryan - I have a method for gaining weight and then getting to newer weights leaner, its nothing crazy but i could put up a big post about it if people are interested
@PlainPat - good to have you again man
ate 5300 calories today, off day
I found out that Tygas version of Black and yellow is 50x better then the original
“You can look, but dont touch it hoe”
I am always interested in hearing new methods to training and nutrition and i guarentee others would love to hear (read) a wall of knowlege from you.
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I am always interested in hearing new methods to training and nutrition and i guarentee others would love to hear (read) a wall of knowlege from you.[/quote]
Ok this is more or less what Ive done to get where I am I actually stumbled on it by accident. Its not that complicated its also not that easy. I would call this phase the initial bulk up, I just take it farther then some but not nearly as far as others (babyslayer). Ill use myself as the example here since itl be easiest to describe. My short term goal is to be a reasonably in shape 250lb person. Short term goal not long. I started this initial bulk up at 180lbs. Some people go right to 250 really fast then cut and be left at a lean 195-205 which is not much progress at all. I took a page out of Layne nortons strategy he used for a while and do a few weeks bulking and then a few cutting. I bulk absolutely hardcore and make 10-30lb jumps over the course of 3-6 weeks. Then once im done with that I go into maintenance mode, eat less, dont do cardio, just dont bulk but still eat whatever i want, this is a lazy mans recomp. I do this for a few months, sometimes not even then do a drastic cut and try and lose at least half of what i gained. Then the moment I look ok i bulk up again this time less aggressive, get to where i was before, then cut again this time less weight, then bulk again this time not aggressive at all, but since youve been at this weight before now more then once it will go on easy. After this point you are ready to make your next jump in weight.
Now the amount of times you bulk and cut before you make your next big jump is individual. i store fat well so a 20-30lb jump wont make me look like a fat piece of sh*t. Some people store it bad and they would be miserable the whole time doing this, if I was someone like this i wouldnt bulk aggressively ever.
How much to eat? Well again individual but as an example, if your having trouble gaining 2lbs a week eating 6000 cals, then you might want to eat 7000-8000 and no im serious. When I bulk I gain no less then 5lbs a week, and if i dont gain at least 5lbs then i up the food. This will make you feel shitty, until… you go work out and are beating PRS constantly lol. You can eat to gain less weight a week, i know most people do 1lb? thats just too damn slow for me.
remember i only bulk for a few weeks, 6-8 is my max and even then thats pushing it. i actually spend more time dieting then bulking , but i spend a lot of time maintaining as well.
The reason this has worked well for me however i think it could be completely horrible for other people.
what im going to try this time after i hit my weight is called culking, alan aragon coined the term. you eat slightly more food on your workout days then slightly less on your off days. so multiply your bw by 15 then eat bwx15+500 on training days and bwx15-500 on off days. dont know how much sense this post made i worked all day kinda drained
for breakfast i had
2 scoops mutant mass
1 scoop whey
2 cups milk
1 tbsp almond butter
1000 calories
lunch
subway 12 inch chicken breast double meat
850 cals
lol guess i gotta eat a lot more, ill probly down a big shake before i go out tn
That’s a little similar to what I’ve done except a little less aggressive and I do it without really thinking about it. I guess that way of gaining just comes naturally to us.
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
That’s a little similar to what I’ve done except a little less aggressive and I do it without really thinking about it. I guess that way of gaining just comes naturally to us.[/quote]
at first i would just bulk then feel fat then cut a bit but then feel small then bulk, i had no idea what i was doing was actually a good thing lol just thought i was a loser douche bag
how much do you weigh btw^
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
That’s a little similar to what I’ve done except a little less aggressive and I do it without really thinking about it. I guess that way of gaining just comes naturally to us.[/quote]
at first i would just bulk then feel fat then cut a bit but then feel small then bulk, i had no idea what i was doing was actually a good thing lol just thought i was a loser douche bag
how much do you weigh btw[1]
I’m hovering in between 210-218 right now @ 5’8.
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[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
That’s a little similar to what I’ve done except a little less aggressive and I do it without really thinking about it. I guess that way of gaining just comes naturally to us.[/quote]
at first i would just bulk then feel fat then cut a bit but then feel small then bulk, i had no idea what i was doing was actually a good thing lol just thought i was a loser douche bag
how much do you weigh btw[1]
I’m hovering in between 210-218 right now @ 5’8.[/quote]
i thought you were more you look big man, i honestly was guessing 230ish especially with your strong lifts
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[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]spar4tee wrote:
That’s a little similar to what I’ve done except a little less aggressive and I do it without really thinking about it. I guess that way of gaining just comes naturally to us.[/quote]
at first i would just bulk then feel fat then cut a bit but then feel small then bulk, i had no idea what i was doing was actually a good thing lol just thought i was a loser douche bag
how much do you weigh btw[1]
I’m hovering in between 210-218 right now @ 5’8.[/quote]
i thought you were more you look big man, i honestly was guessing 230ish especially with your strong lifts[/quote]
I get that a lot lol
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[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
I am always interested in hearing new methods to training and nutrition and i guarentee others would love to hear (read) a wall of knowlege from you.[/quote]
Ok this is more or less what Ive done to get where I am I actually stumbled on it by accident. Its not that complicated its also not that easy. I would call this phase the initial bulk up, I just take it farther then some but not nearly as far as others (babyslayer). Ill use myself as the example here since itl be easiest to describe. My short term goal is to be a reasonably in shape 250lb person. Short term goal not long. I started this initial bulk up at 180lbs. Some people go right to 250 really fast then cut and be left at a lean 195-205 which is not much progress at all. I took a page out of Layne nortons strategy he used for a while and do a few weeks bulking and then a few cutting. I bulk absolutely hardcore and make 10-30lb jumps over the course of 3-6 weeks. Then once im done with that I go into maintenance mode, eat less, dont do cardio, just dont bulk but still eat whatever i want, this is a lazy mans recomp. I do this for a few months, sometimes not even then do a drastic cut and try and lose at least half of what i gained. Then the moment I look ok i bulk up again this time less aggressive, get to where i was before, then cut again this time less weight, then bulk again this time not aggressive at all, but since youve been at this weight before now more then once it will go on easy. After this point you are ready to make your next jump in weight.
Now the amount of times you bulk and cut before you make your next big jump is individual. i store fat well so a 20-30lb jump wont make me look like a fat piece of sh*t. Some people store it bad and they would be miserable the whole time doing this, if I was someone like this i wouldnt bulk aggressively ever.
How much to eat? Well again individual but as an example, if your having trouble gaining 2lbs a week eating 6000 cals, then you might want to eat 7000-8000 and no im serious. When I bulk I gain no less then 5lbs a week, and if i dont gain at least 5lbs then i up the food. This will make you feel shitty, until… you go work out and are beating PRS constantly lol. You can eat to gain less weight a week, i know most people do 1lb? thats just too damn slow for me.
remember i only bulk for a few weeks, 6-8 is my max and even then thats pushing it. i actually spend more time dieting then bulking , but i spend a lot of time maintaining as well.
The reason this has worked well for me however i think it could be completely horrible for other people.
what im going to try this time after i hit my weight is called culking, alan aragon coined the term. you eat slightly more food on your workout days then slightly less on your off days. so multiply your bw by 15 then eat bwx15+500 on training days and bwx15-500 on off days. dont know how much sense this post made i worked all day kinda drained
for breakfast i had
2 scoops mutant mass
1 scoop whey
2 cups milk
1 tbsp almond butter
1000 calories
lunch
subway 12 inch chicken breast double meat
850 cals
lol guess i gotta eat a lot more, ill probly down a big shake before i go out tn
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This is a really good approach, in my opinion. I’m planning on doing the same thing. Probably gain for 12 weeks, then maintain/tighten up for 4 weeks, then restart the process. I know Layne Norton had talked about it, but I’d never seen any one else really advocate it, so I’m glad my game plan has at least been executed by a few other advanced guys like you and Spartee. Thanks for writing that up.
I like your weight gain strategy. I do something similar, but less extreme because I don’t have your huge MFin frame lol