[quote]Therizza wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
Therizza wrote:
I say Silva should go up and tool Lesnar. That would be awesome.
you serious? leasnar might EAT silva, if he came in the cage with the right seasoning.
also, before everone anoints silva as the next coming of christ, lets remember that griffen got knocked stiff by jardine in the first round as well. i dont remember, but maybe even quicker than with silva.
that comment was meant to see if any Brotards are still hiding among us. It would make for a good fight in a Grand Prix type tournament though, wouldn’t it?[/quote]
Its funny me and my bro where talking about that today, I think it would be a good fight.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
Therizza wrote:
I say Silva should go up and tool Lesnar. That would be awesome.
you serious? leasnar might EAT silva, if he came in the cage with the right seasoning.
also, before everone anoints silva as the next coming of christ, lets remember that griffen got knocked stiff by jardine in the first round as well. i dont remember, but maybe even quicker than with silva.
Dude,as if Silva being “anointed” hinged on his performance against Griffin…lol. Besides,Forrest’s lost to Jardine was in winter '06. You failed to mention what has transpired since then and now. Why is that?
In reality,this has no bearing on Silva’s status…he’s proven himself as top of the food chain…which is all that matters in MMA.[/quote]
what i am saying is FG has proven more than one he is suceptable to a quick knock out. and his straight forward aggressive style was taylor made for one of the most dangerous and accurate strikers in mma.
many people were talking bad about silva in regards to his last 2 fights, thats all i was saying, if he destroyed GSP or a machida then yes, game over. griffen got served up. sometimes putting a goldfish in a shark tank makes for good entertainment, but i still feel bad for Griffen.
Lesnar is too big and fast. one thing to be fast, another to be as big AND fast as Lesnar. he would catch silva and smother him. be like trying to strike while in a swimming pool with a 300lb rock on top of you, lol. not saying lesnar is better than silva, not at all, just would not be a fair fight. just my not so educated opinion.
[quote]Barachiel wrote:
I posted this on another thread but to reiterate on speculation. Since someone threw out Lesnar
Silva vs Fedor catch weight match. Who do you have?[/quote]
Fedor… This comes up every time Silva fights btw. The MMA world seems to have an EXTREMELY short term memory. That’s not a knock on you either Barachiel.
I second the leg kicks. If BJ is going to pace himself now he seems to be wide open for them. It was really the only striking Kenflo had working for him. Has anyone ever tried testing BJ’s legs in a fight I can’t remember.
With such flexibility in them it makes me wonder how durable they would be against some repeated kicks.
[quote]Barachiel wrote:
I second the leg kicks. If BJ is going to pace himself now he seems to be wide open for them. It was really the only striking Kenflo had working for him. Has anyone ever tried testing BJ’s legs in a fight I can’t remember.
With such flexibility in them it makes me wonder how durable they would be against some repeated kicks.[/quote]
From watching the fight,throwing jab-to-low kick combos…and following low kicks with strikes would have been in KenFlo’s favor. Hell,he didn’t even throw any combos that I can remember. I’m still trying to grasp the fact of KF trying to wrestle BJ to the ground…such a fucked gameplan against BJ.
But all that was null when BJ FINALLY took his ass down with ease. I wonder if that was part of BJ’s gameplan. Or was it because he was gassed…lol.
I always like the hype machine- how people can get worked up over a fighter hype-
thinking that kenny would not get outclassed.
This is BJ penn we are talking about not to nuthug but who hasnt looked bad against GSP as of late?
who Hasnt GSP completely dominated.
I think his lack of inactivity of top fights hurts him. Not so long ago he did tear through a who is who
at 155 through 170 including Gomi Bang ludwig and Matt Hughes.
Kenny did not have a solid plan or what ever his plan was, was negated pretty quickly
same with Sherk when he fought Penn either the plan was lacking or the skillset of the opponent made it futile
Sherk boxed someone with better boxing , longer reach and more accuracy- cause he couldnt use his takedowns.
I think what worked for GSP is being the better bigger stronger faster athlete - not so much for Kenny
his takedowns looked more like desparation moves- that and going repeatedly for a single
with a guy who can stand on one leg and still out box you isnt that smart.
He also got roughed up in the clinch not a suprise BJ is a big 155 and a small 170.
I think BJ can be the top dog at 155 for quite a while yes Sanchez is tough , and might rough BJ up
and will probably be bigger or stronger but his skills are still not there yet.
Id like to see people like Edie Alverez, Gilbert Melendez and some other 160 ish types show up.
Melendez and Alvarez have a ways to go as well. I think Alvarez would get submitted and Gil beaten all around. Sherk was using good kicks then stopped for some odd reason, if you watch BJ’s first fight with GSP he was blocking like it was nobodies business. Sanchez Penn will at the least be very entertaining Diego keeps a crazy pace, more so than Florian so it will be interesting. Did anyone actually have Kenny winning any rounds I though BJ took everyone maybe not the second.
[quote]slimjim wrote:
Leg kicks? Really? Cmon! BJ is one of the few fighters that actually checks them properly!! Leg kicking your way to getting taken down imo.[/quote]
Well it was better plan that what Florian tried…that was my point. And BJ didn’t check every kick. But if Florian did try to go that route…the end result would have most likely been the same…BJ took him down like it was nothing.
Sanchez’s win over Guida showed me something. Sanchez will beat BJ. He’s a big dude, came down from 170 and matched the caveman’s pace…hell even surpassed it. No matter who he trains with, doesn’t matter who crazy wobble board S&C coach he has, BJ’s problem with always be conditioning. I don’t think he’ll be able to match Sanhez’s pace. The biggest thing I noticed about the Florian fight is how small Florian looked. He’s a stick. Sanchez is a big lightweight who can outpace BJ and I think BJ will gas and go down in the 4th.
[quote]BantamRunner wrote:
Sanchez’s win over Guida showed me something. Sanchez will beat BJ. He’s a big dude, came down from 170 and matched the caveman’s pace…hell even surpassed it. No matter who he trains with, doesn’t matter who crazy wobble board S&C coach he has, BJ’s problem with always be conditioning. I don’t think he’ll be able to match Sanhez’s pace. The biggest thing I noticed about the Florian fight is how small Florian looked. He’s a stick. Sanchez is a big lightweight who can outpace BJ and I think BJ will gas and go down in the 4th.[/quote]
Yeah because beating Guida is clearly the blue print for winning the LW title.
Diego presents an interesting matchhup for BJ, but it’ll be hard to beat BJ with pace when being overmatched in every other facet of the game.
