A supplement wholesaler down the street from me has a product called Nandrosol from Biotest? i’m assuming this is an old product because prohormones are banned, even though this place still sells them. It is 8oz. and sells for $58 I would appreciate any info anyone has on this product.
Another question? Being that i can get quite still get a bit of prohormones, what would you guys suggest i get that wouldn’t cause me to break out?
I don’t know about the Nandrosol, but can you PM me where you can get more PH??? :)~
GB
some type of over the counter medicated acne treatment is probably enough to keep you from breaking out too badly.
1AD and 4AD like MAG-10 had didnt make me break out at all and i have skin that reacts to a lot of things.
mmmmm…MAG-10…[drooling]
Nandrosol was a norandrostene product in a base of isopropanol for transdermal delivery. The retail from Biotest was, as I recall, a bit more than the price you quoted. The norandro isomer incorporated in Nandrosol was to be utilized as a less androgenic form of Androsol, the analogous 4-AD transdermal spray. It was the “Deca” for Androsol’s “Test,” so to speak.
I used a few bottles of Androsol, in its day, with rather impressive results. I never used Nandrosol, and I do not know about its shelf-life. A lot of this will concern the way in which it was stored–this product has been out of the Biotest lineup for quite some time. Maybe Cy could give you some info, although I think Bill Roberts was the Andro/Nandrosol expert.
~Terumo
it is illegal to sell nandrosol in the US. I don’t know if it’s worth the money with so many better products out there with less side effects. A bottle of Carbolin 19 will last you one month with little to no side effects and you keep the gains. laters pk
[quote]pkradgreek wrote:
it is illegal to sell nandrosol in the US. I don’t know if it’s worth the money with so many better products out there with less side effects. A bottle of Carbolin 19 will last you one month with little to no side effects and you keep the gains. laters pk[/quote]
I wouldn’t advise Carbolin 19, based on personal experience, if you can only afford one bottle (i.e. 4wks). I’m hoping that the product concept bears out over the advised 12 week range. I’m at day 30 and the jury is definitely still out.
BTW, Nandrosol will have minimal side effects. Probably more tame, in that respect, then 4-AD-EC.
This product was sold prior to MAG-10 and 4-AD-EC.
I’m sure there’s probably been some degradation, but it may still be worth using.
With 4-norandrostenediol, especially with the isopropyl alcohol as the transdermal solvent, I don’t remember many reporting much in the way of acne. I don’t think it will be much of an issue.
A month’s worth of Carbolin 19 is still of benefit. Is it going to produce the same type of gains as a month of Nandrosol? Absolutely not.
On another note, if the most potent combination of anabolic steroids around still causes users/vets to state it takes 3-4 weeks to “kick in” which is actually not the case, but irrespective, if it takes 3-4 weeks before they notice visual changes that can easily be picked out subjectively, one should not expect the same from a compound with comparative efficacy to oxandrolone. Thus, once again, is why I’m emphasizing that if one wishes to detect small changes in body composition after 4 weeks of use, they’d need a much more sensitive means (e.g., DEXA, hydrostatic, MRI (far from cheap) than tape measurements or the mirror. People often forget that losing 1.5 lb of fat mass and gaining 1.5 lb of lean body mass doesn’t mean it’s coming from one specific area of your body. One further note I’d like to make is that one can easily find people making reports that the oxandrolone they’ve used is either under-dosed or fake because they didn’t notice anything even months after use.
I LOVED Nandrosol. I am one who was EXTREMELY prone to acne, probably more than anyone else on the face of the planet – battled it my whole life, had naturally oily skin, the whole 9, yet Nandrosol did not cause me to break out one iota, nor did I experience any other side effects. And it definately helped a bit in the strength and hardness department. Great stuff!
[quote]Cy Willson wrote:
This product was sold prior to MAG-10 and 4-AD-EC.
I’m sure there’s probably been some degradation, but it may still be worth using.
With 4-norandrostenediol, especially with the isopropyl alcohol as the transdermal solvent, I don’t remember many reporting much in the way of acne. I don’t think it will be much of an issue.
A month’s worth of Carbolin 19 is still of benefit. Is it going to produce the same type of gains as a month of Nandrosol? Absolutely not.
On another note, if the most potent combination of anabolic steroids around still causes users/vets to state it takes 3-4 weeks to “kick in” which is actually not the case, but irrespective, if it takes 3-4 weeks before they notice visual changes that can easily be picked out subjectively, one should not expect the same from a compound with comparative efficacy to oxandrolone. Thus, once again, is why I’m emphasizing that if one wishes to detect small changes in body composition after 4 weeks of use, they’d need a much more sensitive means (e.g., DEXA, hydrostatic, MRI (far from cheap) than tape measurements or the mirror. People often forget that losing 1.5 lb of fat mass and gaining 1.5 lb of lean body mass doesn’t mean it’s coming from one specific area of your body. One further note I’d like to make is that one can easily find people making reports that the oxandrolone they’ve used is either under-dosed or fake because they didn’t notice anything even months after use.
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Good clarification regarding Carbolin…I was speaking relative to “short-term” (one bottle)benefits comparison against Nandrosol. Also, underscoring that one could be disillusioned with a 30 day Carbolin 19 cycle, if proper expectations aren’t communicated (which you guys have done a great job of conveying).
[quote]Gnostic wrote:
Cy Willson wrote:
This product was sold prior to MAG-10 and 4-AD-EC.
I’m sure there’s probably been some degradation, but it may still be worth using.
With 4-norandrostenediol, especially with the isopropyl alcohol as the transdermal solvent, I don’t remember many reporting much in the way of acne. I don’t think it will be much of an issue.
A month’s worth of Carbolin 19 is still of benefit. Is it going to produce the same type of gains as a month of Nandrosol? Absolutely not.
On another note, if the most potent combination of anabolic steroids around still causes users/vets to state it takes 3-4 weeks to “kick in” which is actually not the case, but irrespective, if it takes 3-4 weeks before they notice visual changes that can easily be picked out subjectively, one should not expect the same from a compound with comparative efficacy to oxandrolone. Thus, once again, is why I’m emphasizing that if one wishes to detect small changes in body composition after 4 weeks of use, they’d need a much more sensitive means (e.g., DEXA, hydrostatic, MRI (far from cheap) than tape measurements or the mirror. People often forget that losing 1.5 lb of fat mass and gaining 1.5 lb of lean body mass doesn’t mean it’s coming from one specific area of your body. One further note I’d like to make is that one can easily find people making reports that the oxandrolone they’ve used is either under-dosed or fake because they didn’t notice anything even months after use.
Good clarification regarding Carbolin…I was speaking relative to “short-term” (one bottle)benefits comparison against Nandrosol. Also, underscoring that one could be disillusioned with a 30 day Carbolin 19 cycle, if proper expectations aren’t communicated (which you guys have done a great job of conveying).[/quote]
Right on the money, Gnostic.
one bottle of Nandrosol lasts 12 days at full dosage so the question is do you do 12 days of nandrosol or 45 days Carbolin 19 at 2 pills a day. At that price i go for Carbolin 19 if the effects they say are true.
i have some old bottles of Nandrosol but i paid way less then what you quoted. I’m just looking at it from a value point of view, the engineer/finance in me can’t help it. laters pk