Just got mine today, and am looking forward to giving it a test run.
Feel free to post results here
Some people have started to post their early results with Carbolin 19 in another thread:
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=612323
I thought i would start a new one so it would be easier to search for.
Well, I had an awesome workout last night(first real one since starting Carbolin 19). I’m on week 2 of my second stint of TBT, and I did 3x5 on the decline bench my previous 3RM, so that is pretty cool! My deadlifts seemed to just fly off the floor where I was really having a problem getting the weight off the floor last week. I really didn’t want to leave, I felt awesome to say the least. Maybe this is the feeling Tim was talking about, how it feels like real gear? I have never taken steroids or pheromones, so I can only imagine what those must feel like!
Overall I am very impressed to say the least, and I’ve only been on it for a week! And at the same time I have lost 4lbs yet my arms seem bigger. I ordered a body fat caliper and a Myotape so I can keep track of this better in the future.
[quote]analog_kid wrote:
Well, I had an awesome workout last night(first real one since starting Carbolin 19). I’m on week 2 of my second stint of TBT, and I did 3x5 on the decline bench my previous 3RM, so that is pretty cool! My deadlifts seemed to just fly off the floor where I was really having a problem getting the weight off the floor last week. I really didn’t want to leave, I felt awesome to say the least. Maybe this is the feeling Tim was talking about, how it feels like real gear? I have never taken steroids or pheromones, so I can only imagine what those must feel like!
Overall I am very impressed to say the least, and I’ve only been on it for a week! And at the same time I have lost 4lbs yet my arms seem bigger. I ordered a body fat caliper and a Myotape so I can keep track of this better in the future.[/quote]
A good point to be made in terms of people keeping track of both physical measurements, as well as assessing body fat percentage and weight as a means of assessing progress and efficacy, instead of simply using the scale. I’m glad to see you’re going to be doing so.
I noticed the same thing. I started it last thursday, and I noticed an immediate increase in strength.
Additionally, I noticed that the normal progression of fatigue was different. I.E. Instead of the first few sets being the easiest, the sets just kept getting easier, until the last one. This was at a higher weight than usual as well. I went from using 225 at 10x3 to 230 at 10x3 with much less perceived fatigue. The pump was much more intense as well.
There was distict difference in Jiu-Jutsu as well. I did not get fatiqued as easily.
Overall very good stuff.
Hmmmmmmmmmm…
Could Carbolin 19 be better then MAG-10? Is it possible??
[quote]HouseOfAtlas wrote:
Hmmmmmmmmmm…
Could Carbolin 19 be better then MAG-10? Is it possible??[/quote]
In the long run, yes, in many respects, but in terms of taking each product and comparing it head to head over the same period of time, I’m less confident. Again though, the strength of the product is that it’s not limited as MAG-10 is in terms of the length of time it can be used.
In my inexperience this stuff cuts recovery significantly. I’ve only been on it for 3 solid days and my body weight workouts have shown significant improvement. In my cycling and training disciplines I was able to hold a higher wattage for a longer period of time and at a higher RPM.
Ah, the customary new product results thread. You know, the thread that pops up right after a new product is released and the first page or two is filled with testimonials from people about how the product has elevated their mood, raised their maxes in every lift, enhanced their recovery, and improved their sex life (every Biotest product seems to do all of this within the first two days of using it).
This will of course be followed by 2 pages of posters bothering Cy and Co. questioning why they aren’t seeing results after the first day.
Look guys, I’m just as curious about this stuff as everyone else (I have 3 bottles sitting on my counter right now, and have literally been checking this site everyday since Feb for this stuff), but can we temper our responses and give this stuff some time? I’m sure this stuff kicks ass, but if it takes a week to start seeing results on a test/d-bol cycle, and this product is like a great anavar bridge, maybe we should take the “this must be what roids feels like!” posts after 2 days of usage in the proper perspective.
No matter how good a supplement seems to be initially, I never pass judgement until I have used it consistently for a few weeks.
Just my 2 cents.
Yeah, I agree, even steroids take time to kick in.
I’m with moriarty on this. Spike may have an immediate effect, but we’ve been told that Carbolin 19 takes months for real effects.
It is likely that some of the results posted are from a placebo effect: the thrill of being on something that you think wil help you make progress.
This does not invalidate their experiences on Day One of Carbolin 19. It DOES suggest that mood is a huge motivator in the gym, and that many of us could automatically do more if we approached our workouts differently.
Like having a workout partner. I started training legs with a partner a couple weeks ago. He’s a little stronger than I am, and far more “intense” and focused at workouts. I’m putting out far more effort and moving more weight for more times simply because I’m not going to let him think he’s out-performing me, and because his example is motivating. But it’s ME moving the weight; the other factor is just a catalyst.
I hope this doesn’t come across as a hijack, or worse. I’m not deriding the use of supplements in general, or this one in particular–I got MY three bottles, fer DAMN sher, and I expect great things from them! (And soon, please, Lord?) But simmer down, kids.
“Mr. Perspective”
I agree with the others about it taking awhile to notice some effects. I doubt that we will notice anything significant until having be on Carbolin for at least 2 weeks.
Just thought it would be nice to be able to search for this thread a few weeks down the road and have an easy time finding it to update other with our progress.
I always have a difficult time finding some old results posts using the ‘search’ feature. Hopefully this will be easy to find.
Actually, I was totally aware that the placebo effect might be a large part of it. Who cares if it is? The placebo effect is a real effect.
But yeah, it’s not as if I am running off of an all-day rush. Just a little boost of strength in the gym. Any more significant results will have to wait.
-Fireplug
I agree with you all, and I’d wager a lot of what I’m feeling is in my head, but so what! The one thing I can say, no bones about it, after a mere week of use I am WAY more vascular than I was before using the supplement. Even others have notcied this.(Like the gf that told me last night, “You’re arms are all gross again.” Veins scare girls!)
Unfortunatly, I am going to discontinue use as I am planning to V-Diet the month of May(wish me luck!) so I’m going to drop Carbolin 19 in favor of using it when my calories are up to snuff. But good luck to all your with your gains! See you in a month at 9% BF!
Yes the placebo effect is still a real effect, but it is not that same as a true chemical response and this is a Carbolin 19 results thread. Like it or not the inital posters are setting expectations for this product. I’m not trying to take away from initial results, I’m not even saying that anyone shouldn’t be posting (it’s clearly not my place to do that), I’m just saying that the beauty of this product is supposed to be that it’s essentially a great Var cycle with extra benefits and without sides that can be used indefinitely, so let’s keep that in mind when reading the responses here. Hey, if it works that’s an amazing product, but one that I personally wouldn’t judge the effects of in any other way than with measurements taken over the course of at least 3-4 weeks, and I’d rather not have a page full of posters complaining that Carbolin 19 sucks because they didn’t feel like they were on roids after 3 days.
Just to give an example: When I first tried Methoxy-7 I thought it was garbage. I barely saw anything after the first few days, and it seemed like certain people on here we getting enhanced recovery, increased maxes in all lifts, increased vascularity, etc… after 2-3 days. A year later I tried it again but this time I didn’t pass judgement until week 3, and it was a great product.
I just wish we could get in shipped to Australia !!!