What on earth happened to Roybot’s posts that Zeb and others quoted? What of his five counter-examples of celebrities that were intended to prove me wrong?
Even though I can’t find Roybot’s posts on this thread, I’m going to answer them as best as I can based on the parts that were quoted by other users.
First of all, you need to calm down and back off the inflammatory accusations. This entire thread was only made a week ago. Anyone who reads my posts knows that they tend to be lengthy. And a person with a sound mind could further extrapolate that lengthy posts take a bit of time to write. Checking my post history would have revealed that I’m currently engaged in several lengthy discussions on the political forum.
I have never made a practice of ignoring people who disagree with me. Rather, I go to great lengths to address all challengers. If you want to view a clear-cut example of someone who ignores posts he disagrees with, look at Professor X. He never, ever directly responds to a post of mine. I believe he has already ignored two in this thread.
“NP’s cabaret act revolves around twisting what little truth there is around on itself like a balloon animal and giggling to himself as people tie themselves in knots trying to disprove him. I answered his claim with direct proof, and he ignored me. He only respects himself and does not deserve to be taken seriously.”
I don’t intentionally “twist” anything. What I do is articulate complex, internally-consistent arguments that are grounded in principles which I strongly believe to be true. In effect, I have a knack for keen observation coupled with a very analytical mind that allows me to extend all suppositions to their logical conclusions.
I respect many people in the fitness field, which is why I so frequently quote them as authorities to back up my own arguments. I have a nagging feeling that many veterans here who seem to be convinced that I’m some sort of charlatan couldn’t even provide an accurate summary of my views on basic issues.
Go ahead and try it, if you’re willing. Summarize what my views are as regards strength training, hypertrophy, nutrition and any other area you see fit.
[quote]Jereth127 wrote:
Dude, you’re fucking hilarious.
The trolls around here lately have been a talentless bunch getting all caught up their multiple accounts and giving themselves away making amateur mistakes.
Don’t ever change.[/quote]
Don’t worry, I won’t.
However, at some point if your life you are going to come to a startling realization: “That Nominal Prospect character wasn’t really trolling, he just had a provocative way of telling the unpopular truth.”
I imagine that when it comes, it will hit you like a ton of bricks. Give it a few years or decades.
[quote]ZEB wrote:
While this is not addressed to me I feel compelled to respond because there is much truth to NM’s original statement relative to weight gain.
The reality is as you grow in age you do gain more mass. Certainly there are exceptions to this rule, just as there are exceptions to every rule. I can tell you from personal experience that it is much easier to gain weight now than it was for me 30 years ago. With that said, it’s not necessarily a good thing as I am capable of gaining more fat now as too.
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Props to you for standing up and acknowledging the obvious.
To paraphrase Orwell, in an atmosphere of crowd psychology and self delusion, simply telling the truth becomes a courageous act.
People have a tendency to pick a fight with me no matter what I write. Had I written, “the sky is blue”, I’m sure I’d still have gotten my share of flames and people disagreeing with me just for argument’s sake.
Now, back to the original subject. I will not dispute that most age-related mass gains are in the form of fat, rather than muscle, but I don’t think it matters so much from the perspective of “just looking big”, which much of T-Nation aspires to. That was part of the joke. T-Nation, by and large, “just wants to look big”. People here don’t care about body fat percentages whether they are on twenty year olds or thirty-five year olds, so why should they care about the body fat of a seventy year old?
From reading the picture forum, people who bulk and clearly gain fat along with muscle are positively received nearly 100% of the time.
Posters such as Prof. X have practically institutionalized the dogma that “you can’t get big while keeping your abs” and “it’s better to big than to be small”.
Well, Bill Shatner is fairly big now. Definitely bigger than he was 30 years ago. And he certainly does not have visible abs. Combine that with the fact that he probably hasn’t done any weight training at all in the past 30 years, and therein lies the inside joke of this thread, which is:
The T-Nation “ideal physique” is represented by an old, fat guy who probably doesn’t lift anything heavier than Krispy Kreme donuts.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Simply gaining body mass and fat because your metabolism is slower than when you were younger is not what any of us are after.[/quote]
This is pretty damn ironic to hear you say after you have spent about 30,000 posts yelling at young kids that if they don’t start eating 4,000 calories a day and lose their abs, they are never going to gain any appreciable mass.
Maybe you should start including the above as a disclaimer on your advice columns? Just a thought.
