[quote]esk221 wrote:
Only in America could you have a competition where the object is to not be a lumbering pile of blubber. They get rewarded for something they should be doing anyways!
I have a couple concepts for new competitions, including raising your kids, working nine to five, and remembering to breathe.
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Shhh, you shouldn’t have said that out loud!!! You coulda gotten PAID by the networks for ideas that brilliant 
[quote]chrisarmes wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Only in America could you have a competition where the object is to not be a lumbering pile of blubber. They get rewarded for something they should be doing anyways!
I have a couple concepts for new competitions, including raising your kids, working nine to five, and remembering to breathe.
Shhh, you shouldn’t have said that out loud!!! You coulda gotten PAID by the networks for ideas that brilliant ;)[/quote]
I’m down with the breathing competition. I could totally win that. I breathe like I need to do it to live. I’m completely committed.
Am I the only one that would like to punch Bob in the head? Every show he seems to get skinnier and skinner. Gillian isn’t much better.
[quote]esk221 wrote:
Only in America could you have a competition where the object is to not be a lumbering pile of blubber. They get rewarded for something they should be doing anyways!
I have a couple concepts for new competitions, including raising your kids, working nine to five, and remembering to breathe.
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Dude, “lumbering pile of blubber” made me laugh.
I watched the show last night in amazement. I mean shit, these people aren’t just fat, they’re absolutely immense. Weights like 369, 454 (the 369 was a woman too)- holy shit. And when you see them with their shirts off - Jesus, talk about completely destroying your body.
The look on both of those trainer’s faces was a mix of utter disbelief and abject horror every time a new couple would weigh in.
But that show routinely rips 100s of pounds off people in 120 days or so - but as others pointed out, that’s living there, and being coached and fed 24/7. Even then, once you hit 350 - 400 pounds at probably 50 % bodyfat, loose skin issues and other epidermal scarring is pretty much inevitable…
Most of my thoughts have already been expressed by previous posters.
-Most importantly they are on a compoud where all they do it workout, be it a2 hour hike through the mountains or a real workout with the trainers. Then in the mean time, they are learning great information about nutrition and how to prepare the food properly. They don’t have the stressors of everyday life. They don’t have to watch/pick up the kids, work, or all the other daily activities that take up some much time of everyday life.
-There is a person wieghing at 400 or higher on this season (highest ever for BL). Since these peeople do weigh so much they will be able to lose with huge numbers quicker. Much of that will be water weight.
-Most of these people are obese to the point that it has severly affected their health. If these drastic measures are not taken soon, they could become death statistics.
-American Sports College of Medicine suggest that people lose 1 - 2 lbs per week to ensure the greatest possiblity of keeping the wieght off in the long run. If you lose more than great. As long as you are developing a foundation of proper nutrition and exercising, you should have positive results. Don’t let this show make you think you need to go 400X overdrive. It will burn you out.
As a trainer I have watched this show the past few seasons. I think it has some good information but gives mixed signals as well.
I would use it as an informative and motivational tool for the most part.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
…Even then, once you hit 350 - 400 pounds at probably 50 % bodyfat, loose skin issues and other epidermal scarring is pretty much inevitable… [/quote]
Notice that at the beginning, everyone is shirtless, but towards the end, they all wear shirts and tank tops or whatever. I think the producers do it to cover up the skin issues.
[quote]ouroboro_s wrote:
chrisarmes wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Only in America could you have a competition where the object is to not be a lumbering pile of blubber. They get rewarded for something they should be doing anyways!
I have a couple concepts for new competitions, including raising your kids, working nine to five, and remembering to breathe.
Shhh, you shouldn’t have said that out loud!!! You coulda gotten PAID by the networks for ideas that brilliant
I’m down with the breathing competition. I could totally win that. I breathe like I need to do it to live. I’m completely committed.
Am I the only one that would like to punch Bob in the head? Every show he seems to get skinnier and skinner. Gillian isn’t much better.[/quote]
Bob annoys the hell out of me! I would love to see one of the contestants knock him on the side of the head with a plate. And yes, he is way too skinny!
[quote]Christine wrote:
ouroboro_s wrote:
chrisarmes wrote:
esk221 wrote:
Only in America could you have a competition where the object is to not be a lumbering pile of blubber. They get rewarded for something they should be doing anyways!
I have a couple concepts for new competitions, including raising your kids, working nine to five, and remembering to breathe.
Shhh, you shouldn’t have said that out loud!!! You coulda gotten PAID by the networks for ideas that brilliant
I’m down with the breathing competition. I could totally win that. I breathe like I need to do it to live. I’m completely committed.
Am I the only one that would like to punch Bob in the head? Every show he seems to get skinnier and skinner. Gillian isn’t much better.
Bob annoys the hell out of me! I would love to see one of the contestants knock him on the side of the head with a plate. And yes, he is way too skinny!
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Or it could be Biggest Loser gone bad where they catch him at night and eat him.
For the most part I enjoy the show and find it pretty inspirational. Last season I got waaaay too invested in the personalities on the show.
I would love to do some of the challenges that they do like the zip lines and stuff. It looks fun as hell.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
I watched the show last night in amazement. I mean shit, these people aren’t just fat, they’re absolutely immense. Weights like 369, 454 (the 369 was a woman too)- holy shit. And when you see them with their shirts off - Jesus, talk about completely destroying your body.
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HA…the fat accrued on their body was absurd, but did you see all the visceral fat. CHeese and rice…Those MRI or CAT scans were unbelievable, enlarged, fat covered organs that weren?t even in the right cavities crazy Sheit…
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
When you weigh 450 pounds, 30 lbs comes off real fast. [/quote]
Agreed. These people fluctuate 15lbs in body weight DAILY. Large pro football players can lose 15lbs in ONE GAME. The bigger you are, the larger the weight fluctuations are and the easier you can drop a ton of weight and still be big.
[quote]MUthrows94 wrote:
HA…the fat accrued on their body was absurd, but did you see all the visceral fat. CHeese and rice…Those MRI or CAT scans were unbelievable, enlarged, fat covered organs that weren?t even in the right cavities crazy Sheit…[/quote]
Yea - I did see that shit. Unreal - scary as hell. Normal liver size is around 16 cm - one of them was at like, 27 cm!!
That 454 lb dude whose lungs were like half the size (vertically) that they were supposed to be because he had so much abdominal fat it was forcing his diaphragm up into his thoracic cavity, essentially crushing his lungs…holy fucking shit - that is just insane.
How does someone do that to themselves?
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
MUthrows94 wrote:
HA…the fat accrued on their body was absurd, but did you see all the visceral fat. CHeese and rice…Those MRI or CAT scans were unbelievable, enlarged, fat covered organs that weren?t even in the right cavities crazy Sheit…
Yea - I did see that shit. Unreal - scary as hell. Normal liver size is around 16 cm - one of them was at like, 27 cm!!
That 454 lb dude whose lungs were like half the size (vertically) that they were supposed to be because he had so much abdominal fat it was forcing his diaphragm up into his thoracic cavity, essentially crushing his lungs…holy fucking shit - that is just insane.
How does someone do that to themselves? [/quote]
…and they look at us like we’re crazy.
It takes some serious self loathing to allow yourself to keep gaining fat past the point where you can’t move, breath or get out of bed easily.
The first day they woke up and found that they had to literally roll out of bed in order to get up should have been the first day they quit eating donuts.
No one accidentally gets to over 400lbs. NO ONE. It isn’t like there was one day where they were one cheeseburger away from obesity and OOPS.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
SkyNett wrote:
When you weigh 450 pounds, 30 lbs comes off real fast.
Agreed. These people fluctuate 15lbs in body weight DAILY. Large pro football players can lose 15lbs in ONE GAME. The bigger you are, the larger the weight fluctuations are and the easier you can drop a ton of weight and still be big.[/quote]
If one of them took a good healthy shit right before they weighed, I am sure they could drop 8 pounds easy.
Add on top of that the fact that they could be dehydrated when they weigh, and like you say - just daily weight fluctuations - and I don’t see how some of those Biggest Losers don’t shed more than 20 pounds from one weigh-in to the next.
What bothers me most about that show is that they are slaves to the scale. The entire contest is about how much you can make the scale move.
The winner should be the person who loses the largest %BF.
[quote]SkyNett wrote:
MUthrows94 wrote:
HA…the fat accrued on their body was absurd, but did you see all the visceral fat. CHeese and rice…Those MRI or CAT scans were unbelievable, enlarged, fat covered organs that weren?t even in the right cavities crazy Sheit…
Yea - I did see that shit. Unreal - scary as hell. Normal liver size is around 16 cm - one of them was at like, 27 cm!!
That 454 lb dude whose lungs were like half the size (vertically) that they were supposed to be because he had so much abdominal fat it was forcing his diaphragm up into his thoracic cavity, essentially crushing his lungs…holy fucking shit - that is just insane.
How does someone do that to themselves? [/quote]
The same way someone gains 100+ pounds of muscle. It was an accident.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
The winner should be the person who loses the largest %BF. [/quote]
Exactly. By the end of some of the shows, the men, in particular, don’t look very good. They are too skinny and soft looking.
[quote]ready wrote:
The same way someone gains 100+ pounds of muscle. It was an accident.
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LOL
I didn’t watch the new season yet, but in the past week 2 tells a more balanced story at the weigh ins. The guy who loses 20lbs week 1 drops about 3lbs week 2, and for women the weight is usually really close to the first weigh in.
Water, crapping out the excess, and a drastic cut in calories is what goes the first time, just like was mentioned by the other posters.
I had a rather large woman tell me last week that she truly believes she needs to be on a show like this to lose weight. This was right after a post Christmas family dinner where she put away enough food to paralyze me. Since she is family I did not want to get into a big discussion about it and create hard feelings but what an winning attitude!
[quote]rainjack wrote:
The winner should be the person who loses the largest %BF. [/quote]
it is…kind of. every weigh in is based on the percent of body weight they lose. granted it should be based on percent body fat loss, not body weight, but the results aren’t controlled solely by the pounds lost.
[quote]iamthewolf wrote:
rainjack wrote:
The winner should be the person who loses the largest %BF.
it is…kind of. every weigh in is based on the percent of body weight they lose. granted it should be based on percent body fat loss, not body weight, but the results aren’t controlled solely by the pounds lost.[/quote]
I know that. There is a shit ton of difference between %BW and %BF. There is no sort of. The show creates scale whores.
At least they got a hostess for the show that doesn’t need to be a contestant. Shit, the hostess they had before they got the chick from “Days” was fatter than the fucking contestants.
It is getting to be a bit ridiculous that people have to lose 20+ lbs. a week to keep from getting sent home. Hell I’m happy if I lose 1 lb. a week when cutting.
Now watch next week, people won’t lost more than 2 lbs. It happens every season, the second week people just don’t understand how they can lose 20 lbs. in one week and then next to nothing the next. That leads me to believe the first week’s weight lose has to be primarily water weight.
On a side note, did anyone notice how all the contestants were sweating so profusely during the weigh in? Like their shirts were soaked. Even the host, you could tell her face was all sweaty and you could see like the top of her chest was almost dripping with sweat. They must have had the heat cranked in there to give that whole Sauna effect.
Imagine what that must have smelled like… All that fat and sweat and bacteria growth within the excess folds of tissue.
Must have been rank. When fat sweats, fat stinks.