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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Those questions above are listed so you can respond to them and ONLY them without straying into personal attacks.[/quote]

And right here is one of the biggest problems people have with you. You fucking whine about everybody else and their personal attacks on you, yet anytime someone has a LEGITIMATE complaint or disagreement and voices it in a mature way, you cut them down with personal attacks.

I can certainly go back to the pre-exhuast thread and pull out the numerous personal attacks you made on me.

I think everything around here would be much better if you would stop being a hypocrite by chastising everybody for doing the EXACT same things you do.

Seriously, it’s pathetic.

In before getting lumped together with the guys just slinging mud for the sake of it.

[/quote]

If you have this much of a problem with one poster here, put them on ignore and save the rest of the board the trouble of listening to you whine about them.

My previous post was meant for him to actually answer the questions I asked, not to do like you and turn this into another debate about how you don’t like me.

I don’t care if you don’t like me.

Take that noise to the Get a Life forum and leave it there.[/quote]

Classic. Thanks for not letting me down with your response.

Have fun in this thread.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Good shape means looking good FOR YOURSELF.

That basically means the kind of shape you alone are happy with…and not the shape that some other anonymous guy on the internet thinks you should have.

[/quote]

This is very cute and all but then im not sure why you were so keen on talking down on “skinny guys with abs and 15inches arms”

What if that was what they were happy with? Why tell them to EAT OR GTFO THIS IS THE BODYBUILDING FORUM?

… ok
[/quote]

? If someone is already happy with how they look, they are NOT bodybuilding.

I like how I look right now, but it is by no means my final goal.
[/quote]

lol Oh ok so once someone reaches a body he’s happy with he isnt bodybuilding anymore

kk

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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

I honestly don’t see that on this forum at all. [/quote]

Funny, I see it almost daily.

We are literally have arguments because some of us don’t compete and don’t care about being contest level lean. There are arguments about how your gains don’t matter or can not be quantified unless in contest shape…and arguments about how hugely built people are so fat that their advice doesn’t matter.

If you are missing all of this, it is because you are not paying attention…or are biased about where it is coming from.[/quote]

PX have you noticed if it is more frequent recently? I know the competitive season is near for many of these people, there might be a correlation to be found.[/quote]

CT, you can’t honestly tell me that PX has no part in this. You can pick many threads, but these two recent ones are classic Profesor X behavior.

http://128.121.26.57/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/question_about_prefatiguing?id=5517813&pageNo=0

http://128.121.26.57/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/think_your_big_but_just_fat?id=5545581&pageNo=0

In the second thread PX goes on to complain about how we used to have “real” discussions around here. Then someone linked a thread from SIX years ago discussing the same topic.

The first couple of pages revealed the same Professor X trying to make people feel stupid and acting like he’s an all-knowing authority because he’s a dentist.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope what you just wrote doesn’t make sense to even you.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you for that. I have “doctor” in front of my name but there is always basic shit about biology that I missed. I shall credit that for my weight gain.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I could say that this is one more reason why you should not limit your thinking. You can make huge assumptions when you do. I am a DMD, the type who uses a scalpel and sutures on an almost daily basis.[/quote]

Professor X tries to act innocent but he can’t hide from the 50,000 posts that are in black and white for all to see.

So please, let’s keep it real if we are going to hash this out again. The truth is that PX is unable to have discussions like an adult with people who disagree with him. Even long-time, respected members have pointed this out to him to no avail.

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[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Good shape means looking good FOR YOURSELF.

That basically means the kind of shape you alone are happy with…and not the shape that some other anonymous guy on the internet thinks you should have.

[/quote]

This is very cute and all but then im not sure why you were so keen on talking down on “skinny guys with abs and 15inches arms”

What if that was what they were happy with? Why tell them to EAT OR GTFO THIS IS THE BODYBUILDING FORUM?

… ok
[/quote]

? If someone is already happy with how they look, they are NOT bodybuilding.

I like how I look right now, but it is by no means my final goal.
[/quote]

lol Oh ok so once someone reaches a body he’s happy with he isnt bodybuilding anymore

kk[/quote]

Uh, yeah, that would be exactly right.

Bodybuilding involves changing the body. If someone IS NOT doing that, they are not bodybuilding.

How is this a surprise to you?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Good shape means looking good FOR YOURSELF.

That basically means the kind of shape you alone are happy with…and not the shape that some other anonymous guy on the internet thinks you should have.

[/quote]

This is very cute and all but then im not sure why you were so keen on talking down on “skinny guys with abs and 15inches arms”

What if that was what they were happy with? Why tell them to EAT OR GTFO THIS IS THE BODYBUILDING FORUM?

… ok
[/quote]

? If someone is already happy with how they look, they are NOT bodybuilding.

I like how I look right now, but it is by no means my final goal.
[/quote]

lol Oh ok so once someone reaches a body he’s happy with he isnt bodybuilding anymore

kk[/quote]

Uh, yeah, that would be exactly right.

Bodybuilding involves changing the body. If someone IS NOT doing that, they are not bodybuilding.

How is this a surprise to you?
[/quote]

So as soon as someone reaches his goal and keeps training and eating in order to maintain his achievement he goes from bodybuilder to… maintainer…

Also… I did not know being happy with how you look necessarily meant being satisfied and not wanting more

Im happy with how I look… am I a bodybuilder?

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Jesus, can we not do this again, please??

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
Jesus, can we not do this again, please??[/quote]

Notice it is the same guys always.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

Good shape means looking good FOR YOURSELF.

That basically means the kind of shape you alone are happy with…and not the shape that some other anonymous guy on the internet thinks you should have.

[/quote]

This is very cute and all but then im not sure why you were so keen on talking down on “skinny guys with abs and 15inches arms”

What if that was what they were happy with? Why tell them to EAT OR GTFO THIS IS THE BODYBUILDING FORUM?

… ok
[/quote]

? If someone is already happy with how they look, they are NOT bodybuilding.

I like how I look right now, but it is by no means my final goal.
[/quote]

lol Oh ok so once someone reaches a body he’s happy with he isnt bodybuilding anymore

kk[/quote]

Uh, yeah, that would be exactly right.

Bodybuilding involves changing the body. If someone IS NOT doing that, they are not bodybuilding.

How is this a surprise to you?
[/quote]

Dexter Jackson has looked the same for years. I’m not sure your argument holds water.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Dexter Jackson has looked the same for years. I’m not sure your argument holds water. [/quote]

dexter Jackson has always changed his training to bring up areas. At no point in time has a bodybuilder said, I’m not changing a thing from here on out!

Please. At least have serious arguments. Some skinny kid with arms no bigger than an untrained person who is happy with how he looks is NOT bodybuilding.

If you want to argue that they are, so be it. Have fun keeping the discussions at kindergarten level.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Dexter Jackson has looked the same for years. I’m not sure your argument holds water. [/quote]

dexter Jackson has always changed his training to bring up areas. At no point in time has a bodybuilder said, I’m not changing a thing from here on out![/quote]

He’s looked the same since I’ve started following bodybuilding.

I consider the degradation of my argument, for which you still have not disputed, a personal attack.

[quote]Some skinny kid with arms no bigger than an untrained person who is happy with how he looks is NOT bodybuilding.

If you want to argue that they are, so be it. Have fun keeping the discussions at kindergarten level.[/quote]

I don’t think anyone argued that.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

Dexter Jackson has looked the same for years. I’m not sure your argument holds water. [/quote]

dexter Jackson has always changed his training to bring up areas. At no point in time has a bodybuilder said, I’m not changing a thing from here on out!

Please. At least have serious arguments. Some skinny kid with arms no bigger than an untrained person who is happy with how he looks is NOT bodybuilding.

If you want to argue that they are, so be it. Have fun keeping the discussions at kindergarten level.[/quote]

Let me put this another way since you seem to miss the point 24/7

Why would you tell a kid thats 160lbs skinny but WANTS TO BE LEANER AND HAVE ABS to EAT AND GROW THIS IS THE BODYBUILDING FORUM instead of respecting what his goals are (which would be 150lbs with abs)

Uh? Why? If what is important is that the individual that “owns” the body likes how he look

Kid is still bodybuilding, he’s changing his body

You came at so many noobs that just wanted to be leaner with abs… and gl trying to deny that

Now you’re telling everyone that what is important is to be happy with how you look or whatever word you want to use to switch the question lol

You make no sense. Blatant double standards

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

He’s looked the same since I’ve started following bodybuilding. [/quote]

Dexter is in his mid-40’s. He would not be expecting or seeing huge gains ion muscle at this point. That is why you have not seen much difference, not because he isn’t trying to make more progress. At that age, stagnation would mean regression.

Done yet?

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DONE YET

YOU’VE BEEN Xed

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

I honestly don’t see that on this forum at all. [/quote]

Funny, I see it almost daily.

We are literally have arguments because some of us don’t compete and don’t care about being contest level lean. There are arguments about how your gains don’t matter or can not be quantified unless in contest shape…and arguments about how hugely built people are so fat that their advice doesn’t matter.

If you are missing all of this, it is because you are not paying attention…or are biased about where it is coming from.[/quote]

PX have you noticed if it is more frequent recently? I know the competitive season is near for many of these people, there might be a correlation to be found.[/quote]

CT, you can’t honestly tell me that PX has no part in this. You can pick many threads, but these two recent ones are classic Profesor X behavior.

http://128.121.26.57/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/question_about_prefatiguing?id=5517813&pageNo=0

http://128.121.26.57/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/think_your_big_but_just_fat?id=5545581&pageNo=0

In the second thread PX goes on to complain about how we used to have “real” discussions around here. Then someone linked a thread from SIX years ago discussing the same topic.

The first couple of pages revealed the same Professor X trying to make people feel stupid and acting like he’s an all-knowing authority because he’s a dentist.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope what you just wrote doesn’t make sense to even you.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you for that. I have “doctor” in front of my name but there is always basic shit about biology that I missed. I shall credit that for my weight gain.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I could say that this is one more reason why you should not limit your thinking. You can make huge assumptions when you do. I am a DMD, the type who uses a scalpel and sutures on an almost daily basis.[/quote]

Professor X tries to act innocent but he can’t hide from the 50,000 posts that are in black and white for all to see.

So please, let’s keep it real if we are going to hash this out again. The truth is that PX is unable to have discussions like an adult with people who disagree with him. Even long-time, respected members have pointed this out to him to no avail.[/quote]

I am SO not getting into this… this is a forum to talk about training to get stronger, bigger and leaner… that’s where I’ll stop :slight_smile:

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[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Christian Thibaudeau wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

I honestly don’t see that on this forum at all. [/quote]

Funny, I see it almost daily.

We are literally have arguments because some of us don’t compete and don’t care about being contest level lean. There are arguments about how your gains don’t matter or can not be quantified unless in contest shape…and arguments about how hugely built people are so fat that their advice doesn’t matter.

If you are missing all of this, it is because you are not paying attention…or are biased about where it is coming from.[/quote]

PX have you noticed if it is more frequent recently? I know the competitive season is near for many of these people, there might be a correlation to be found.[/quote]

CT, you can’t honestly tell me that PX has no part in this. You can pick many threads, but these two recent ones are classic Profesor X behavior.

http://128.121.26.57/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/question_about_prefatiguing?id=5517813&pageNo=0

http://128.121.26.57/free_online_forum/sports_body_training_performance_bodybuilding/think_your_big_but_just_fat?id=5545581&pageNo=0

In the second thread PX goes on to complain about how we used to have “real” discussions around here. Then someone linked a thread from SIX years ago discussing the same topic.

The first couple of pages revealed the same Professor X trying to make people feel stupid and acting like he’s an all-knowing authority because he’s a dentist.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I hope what you just wrote doesn’t make sense to even you.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Thank you for that. I have “doctor” in front of my name but there is always basic shit about biology that I missed. I shall credit that for my weight gain.[/quote]

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I could say that this is one more reason why you should not limit your thinking. You can make huge assumptions when you do. I am a DMD, the type who uses a scalpel and sutures on an almost daily basis.[/quote]

Professor X tries to act innocent but he can’t hide from the 50,000 posts that are in black and white for all to see.

So please, let’s keep it real if we are going to hash this out again. The truth is that PX is unable to have discussions like an adult with people who disagree with him. Even long-time, respected members have pointed this out to him to no avail.[/quote]

I am SO not getting into this… this is a forum to talk about training to get stronger, bigger and leaner… that’s where I’ll stop :)[/quote]

YOu asking PX if he saw a change lately in how “competitve” bodybuilders acted towards him/the forum recently was kinda getting into this though… not that I want you to get into this but just know how it probably was perceived… which was you agreeing with X

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zraw, are you like 5 years old dude, let it go, fuck. There is a whole thread dedicated to this garbage. Do you think we need to fuck up every single thread???

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[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
zraw, are you like 5 years old dude, let it go, fuck. There is a whole thread dedicated to this garbage. Do you think we need to fuck up every single thread???[/quote]

Im just waiting for the bodybuilding forum to be clean my man

As far as I’m concerned I just asked a question which I can ask again

What is the difference between a young kid thats 165lbs and wants to be 155with abs and a guy that is going for “full house” look

Why should one be “ridiculised” while the other one shouldnt if bodybuilding is about “transforming” your body to something that you like

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[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
zraw, are you like 5 years old dude, let it go, fuck. There is a whole thread dedicated to this garbage. Do you think we need to fuck up every single thread???[/quote]

Im just waiting for the bodybuilding forum to be clean my man

As far as I’m concerned I just asked a question which I can ask again

What is the difference between a young kid thats 165lbs and wants to be 155with abs and a guy that is going for “full house” look

Why should one be “ridiculised” while the other one shouldnt if bodybuilding is about “transforming” your body to something that you like[/quote]

Ask away; please just keep the BS out of this forum.

Me personally, neither should be ridiculed unless they are being delusional. If the skinny kidâ??s acts like he is jacked and wants to lean out to show off his “big” muscles he should be put in his place. If the “Full House” guy acts like he’s 12% bf and is really 30% he should be ridiculed.

In both cases, if each person minds their own business then I’ll mind my own business.

That’s my $0.02, anyway.

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well said ^

[quote]zraw wrote:

[quote]usmccds423 wrote:
zraw, are you like 5 years old dude, let it go, fuck. There is a whole thread dedicated to this garbage. Do you think we need to fuck up every single thread???[/quote]

Im just waiting for the bodybuilding forum to be clean my man

As far as I’m concerned I just asked a question which I can ask again

What is the difference between a young kid thats 165lbs and wants to be 155with abs and a guy that is going for “full house” look

Why should one be “ridiculised” while the other one shouldnt if bodybuilding is about “transforming” your body to something that you like[/quote]
same goes with the early gear use thread you started. People who stay natural get made fun of because they’re small and don’t have the balls to use. Those who use and look good get told it’s all the gear by some naturals. Those who use and look good get told they’re on way more gear than other people on gear. Same probably goes for powerlifting in geared/raw and different weight classes.

in conclusion, it’s all our own race to some extent, and if we compete it’s with people near our level at the time

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People have different opinions, people are ignorant, and people say dumb things. That’s life folks. Repeatedly beating it to death doesn’t add any value.

Sometime you have to take a step back and look through the other person perspective too really understand what they mean, not just what the words on the page say.