[quote]PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
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I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
You seem to be focusing more on biceps, yet 2/3 of your arm is triceps. Start pushing more and do skullcrushers.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
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I apologize. What branch are you in?
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
I apologize. What branch are you in?
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Top Secret.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
I apologize. What branch are you in?
Top Secret.[/quote]
Come on, Prof. Don’t get shy on us all of a sudden. Branch of service isn’t classified. I’m guessing Air Force.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
I apologize. What branch are you in?
Top Secret.
Come on, Prof. Don’t get shy on us all of a sudden. Branch of service isn’t classified. I’m guessing Air Force.
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Thats what I would guess too. That and being a officer gives him that extra leway that a enlisted guy doesnt have.
I spent 4 years active duty with the marines and lets just say there wasnt any room for bulking. True you only get taped at PFT time, but start to slip and have the “military appearance” card pulled on you and your on remedial. It happened to me, I remember 2 brutal weeks at lunch doing sandbag pt, suicides, and various bodyweight stuff. Last time I tried to bulk. For the last 5 years Ive been army, medical side of the house and there is a tad more leway here. I started to bulk and got caught short by having to sponser a soldier at a board and not realizing the size I put on around the chest/back area we both ending up getting kick out. Expensive and painful lesson. So I really have to weigh(no pun intended) my options before I go and bulk again during active service.
Thats my 2 cents and if you want to dog on my size or lack there of Prof I posted some pics on my profile. Im currently around 20lb overweight by army standards(175 at 5’5") with a 16 1/2 neck, dont have a recent waist measurement. As a NCO, it is frowned upon to be taped in the first place as it sends the “wrong message” to the junior enlisted.
[quote]waltny wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
I apologize. What branch are you in?
Top Secret.
Come on, Prof. Don’t get shy on us all of a sudden. Branch of service isn’t classified. I’m guessing Air Force.
Thats what I would guess too. That and being a officer gives him that extra leway that a enlisted guy doesnt have.
I spent 4 years active duty with the marines and lets just say there wasnt any room for bulking. True you only get taped at PFT time, but start to slip and have the “military appearance” card pulled on you and your on remedial. It happened to me, I remember 2 brutal weeks at lunch doing sandbag pt, suicides, and various bodyweight stuff. Last time I tried to bulk. For the last 5 years Ive been army, medical side of the house and there is a tad more leway here. I started to bulk and got caught short by having to sponser a soldier at a board and not realizing the size I put on around the chest/back area we both ending up getting kick out. Expensive and painful lesson. So I really have to weigh(no pun intended) my options before I go and bulk again during active service.
Thats my 2 cents and if you want to dog on my size or lack there of Prof I posted some pics on my profile. Im currently around 20lb overweight by army standards(175 at 5’5") with a 16 1/2 neck, dont have a recent waist measurement. As a NCO, it is frowned upon to be taped in the first place as it sends the “wrong message” to the junior enlisted.
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Why would I “dog” on your size? Dude, in the end, we all do what we have to do job-wise and in our private lives. If you happen to be on a base where they are that strict, you do what you have to do. I personally have not experienced that and I am sure guys from all branches will have drastically different experiences. I would guess it also depends on WHERE you work. Obviously, in a hospital the focus is on patient care, not wardrobe specifically unless you just completely screw that up or openly offend someone.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
waltny wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Professor X wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Prof,
You are a gigantic dude. Tons of muscle, but if you tried to join the military you would have to slim down quite a bit. It’s just something that goes with the job.
I am military. Yes, I did have to drop a lot of weight to get in. The standards to get in are much more strict than the standards to stay in.
I apologize. What branch are you in?
Top Secret.
Come on, Prof. Don’t get shy on us all of a sudden. Branch of service isn’t classified. I’m guessing Air Force.
Thats what I would guess too. That and being a officer gives him that extra leway that a enlisted guy doesnt have.
I spent 4 years active duty with the marines and lets just say there wasnt any room for bulking. True you only get taped at PFT time, but start to slip and have the “military appearance” card pulled on you and your on remedial. It happened to me, I remember 2 brutal weeks at lunch doing sandbag pt, suicides, and various bodyweight stuff. Last time I tried to bulk. For the last 5 years Ive been army, medical side of the house and there is a tad more leway here. I started to bulk and got caught short by having to sponser a soldier at a board and not realizing the size I put on around the chest/back area we both ending up getting kick out. Expensive and painful lesson. So I really have to weigh(no pun intended) my options before I go and bulk again during active service.
Thats my 2 cents and if you want to dog on my size or lack there of Prof I posted some pics on my profile. Im currently around 20lb overweight by army standards(175 at 5’5") with a 16 1/2 neck, dont have a recent waist measurement. As a NCO, it is frowned upon to be taped in the first place as it sends the “wrong message” to the junior enlisted.
Why would I “dog” on your size? Dude, in the end, we all do what we have to do job-wise and in our private lives. If you happen to be on a base where they are that strict, you do what you have to do. I personally have not experienced that and I am sure guys from all branches will have drastically different experiences. I would guess it also depends on WHERE you work. Obviously, in a hospital the focus is on patient care, not wardrobe specifically unless you just completely screw that up or openly offend someone.[/quote]
Why would you “dog” my size? I figured you might as one of the biggest guys on the site. I suppose that was the Napolen complex kicking in before I could get the reigns on it.
I know what you are talking about though in the hospitals. Ive been stationed at FT Sam for the last 5 years and got to work up at BMAC and over at WHMC for breif periods of time. The personel at the hospital are all about the job. When I worked medical maintenance up at BMAC for a few months, it was show up at 0730 and work till 1700. There were no details, worrying about uniform regs, doing pt, etc. Maybe one of these days Ill get a MEDDAC and get to unleash the beast…
Come on Prof, what branch of service and what job specialty? You’re too big for SpecOps, so it can’t be too classified. I’m an aircraft maintenance officer. In the Marines, for an officer to be “fat” is inconcievable and unforgivable. Enlisted guys can recover their career from being assigned to an official weight control program, officers are dead if they get assigned, even if they loose the weight.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Come on Prof, what branch of service and what job specialty? You’re too big for SpecOps, so it can’t be too classified. I’m an aircraft maintenance officer. In the Marines, for an officer to be “fat” is inconcievable and unforgivable. Enlisted guys can recover their career from being assigned to an official weight control program, officers are dead if they get assigned, even if they loose the weight. [/quote]
He’s not too big for Specops.
[quote]PGJ wrote:
Come on Prof, what branch of service and what job specialty? You’re too big for SpecOps, so it can’t be too classified. I’m an aircraft maintenance officer. In the Marines, for an officer to be “fat” is inconcievable and unforgivable. Enlisted guys can recover their career from being assigned to an official weight control program, officers are dead if they get assigned, even if they loose the weight. [/quote]
Some people just like to maintain a certain degree of privacy…
OK, I’ll admit it. I just posted so I could throw up that movie poster of Val Kilmer’s finest work.
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
You seem to be focusing more on biceps, yet 2/3 of your arm is triceps. Start pushing more and do skullcrushers.[/quote]
I was just going to write the same idea Testy1.
Have you done any work to target your brachialis? My arms blow up when I throw in some reverse curls, hammer curls, etc.
Also, what rep range do you typically work your arms in? Maybe they require higher/low reps to grow at this point. If you’ve been training as long as you say you have, you may want to go ultra-heavy, ultra-low reps for a while and see what happens.
Another option is to try Waterbury’s P10 program or concoct your own
Thibadeau’s HSS-100 arm specialization. God knows there are enough resources on this site for this type of thing.
[quote]Ryu13 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Come on Prof, what branch of service and what job specialty? You’re too big for SpecOps, so it can’t be too classified. I’m an aircraft maintenance officer. In the Marines, for an officer to be “fat” is inconcievable and unforgivable. Enlisted guys can recover their career from being assigned to an official weight control program, officers are dead if they get assigned, even if they loose the weight.
He’s not too big for Specops.[/quote]
I would say he is.
Most specop guys are slightly taller than average, long and lanky with average builds at best. This is an over generalization of course, but I would say is dead on about 80% of the time.
No offense to the Prof, but I think it would be damn hard to maintain 270 at 5’11" in a high op tempo specop unit.
Those are some very good points on training age/response to reps and working the triceps.
One thing I used to help my arms a little was a 10x3 for the biceps between sets of dead lifts, and JM presses. You can find the JM press at elite’s exercise index. They will blast the bajeezus out of your tris and front delts.
Also- Time to let whatever you choose work. Give at least a few weeks, if not a few months for it to work.
why dont u read the articles on this website to get bigger arms, go on a diet first. whats the point of big arms if your flabby man boobies get in the way? then gain some muscule you look like you dont even workout…
Really, I don’t think your arms will get much bigger without the weight gain. I’m 5’6" with arms around 17 1/4, but that’s at a body weight of 215. I understand how things are in the Marine Corps, so it may be one of those things you just have to live with.
As far as getting taped, like others have said – get a bigger neck. Also, have some weights lying around to use to give you neck and traps a good pump right before getting taped. I remember after every PFT, a buddy and I would do endless shrugs and reps on the neck harness until it was our turn to get taped. A good neck pump can add a good inch to its measurement.
Also, and this may sound silly, but it can work. Try to be taller when the measure your height. Extend your neck. Stand straight and tall. Try to elevate your heels slightly without being noticed. Height does get factored into the neck/waist eqaution. If you can get an inch taller that will give you some more leeway.
Finally, if you really want to go on an all out bulk, spend a few months in the Brig(only half-joking).
I am in the military and 260 at 5’10". I am right on the edge of the bf by the neck/waist measurement, but as long as I have no problems passing the PRT, nobody gives me any problems. (Playing all-Navy sports helps too.) Also, it varies from command to command. As long as you are in decent shape and don’t piss anyone off, I have never seen anyone have their career squashed. Also, you only have to do the PRT twice a year… as long as you are in standards when the PRT rolls around you are fine. The military’s weight standards are crazy.
For my height, the max WEIGHT is 192. I starved myself to get just a little lower than that for wrestling w/ very low bodyfat. I would say that for me to get that low again would be nearly immpossible, not that I would WANT to ever be that small again. Just go with the neck/waist measurements. Don’t worry about the arms so much. Start the bulk right after your PRT and hit the basic lifts hard, especially deads and squats. Your arms will grow along with the rest of your body. Then after three months, start cutting enough to get back into BF% standards. Also, from what you said, it looks like you only lift 2X a weeek? Maybe you should think about bumping that up a little. At least three times a week. And read a little bit on eating correctly.
If you follow the tenants in the T-Dawg diet or even massive eating, you won’t gain too much fat. Most people that I have met that aren’t making gains eat like shit and refuse to do the lifts that will get you somewhere. (i.e. heavy, FULL RANGE squats and deadlifts.)
Just like anything else in the military, as long as you are good old boy, you are fine. It is when you start pissing people off about OTHER things that they start picking on BF%, unshined shoes, a little alcohol on the breath, ect…
[quote]waltny wrote:
Ryu13 wrote:
PGJ wrote:
Come on Prof, what branch of service and what job specialty? You’re too big for SpecOps, so it can’t be too classified. I’m an aircraft maintenance officer. In the Marines, for an officer to be “fat” is inconcievable and unforgivable. Enlisted guys can recover their career from being assigned to an official weight control program, officers are dead if they get assigned, even if they loose the weight.
He’s not too big for Specops.
I would say he is.
Most specop guys are slightly taller than average, long and lanky with average builds at best. This is an over generalization of course, but I would say is dead on about 80% of the time.
No offense to the Prof, but I think it would be damn hard to maintain 270 at 5’11" in a high op tempo specop unit.
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When I was active duty there was a Spec warfare shop next to the intel shop I worked in. The SEALS that were attached to it ran the gamut as far as size goes.
The Master Chief was about 5’7 and couldn’t have weighed more then 175 pounds and that’s a stretch. He had ribbons covering his left upper breast that stretched all the way to Vietnam service.
The Lt. Commander was a beefy guy about 5’10 and looked like he packed on a good bit of muscle on his frame.