[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
[quote]OBoile wrote:
Crossfit isn’t a sport. It is a training philosophy/system.
The Crossfit games are a sport (or at least I’d consider them to be one).
Most, if not all, of the top competitors in the sport do not follow the crossfit training philosophy. Many “Boxes” do not either.
Your analogies to powerlifting and strongman are incorrect as you fail to distingish between the competition and the training. A powerlifter is someone who competes at powerlifting regardless of whether they use sheiko, westside, 5/3/1 or any other system. A crossfit games competitor is someone who competes at the crossfit games regardless of whether they train using crossfit, crossfit-football, 5/3/1, starting strength, GSLP+conditioning or their own system or anything else. Just because someone does “work on on the powerlifting and weightlifting movements, basic gymnastics, calisthenics and running, all within the same program” doesn’t mean they are doing crossfit.[/quote]
I’m curious O’Boile;
What’s your back ground in regards to Crossfit? (former competitor? former affiliate owner?)
How many of the top competitors do you know? (you seem to have quite a bit of information about how they train)
Being serious here, even though you may think I’m just trolling…[/quote]
Other than having met a few affiliate owners and participants, my experience is limited to reading their site/forum/journals etc. I do that regularly because I actually like the many of the concepts behind crossfit and I think they have a lot of useful information/ideas.
However, I do have an issue with people claiming everything is crossfit (this happens with other training systems as well, the “I’m doin 5/3/1 only I don’t squat or press” mentality). If you’re not following the basic tennants of the system (“constantly varied, highintensity,
functional movement”) then you aren’t really doing crossfit.
There are thousands of affiliates many, if not most, of which are doing their own system, yet crossfit people try claim credit for any elite performance - even if the only thing they have in common is that they both paid for the affiliate fee. If you’re not training the same way, then you aren’t doing the same thing. The goal may be the same, but the system isn’t.[/quote]
Why is it so damn difficult for the people on this site to understand what CrossFit is? It is a sport. Powerlifting is a sport. Strongman is a sport. Highland is a sport. Weightlifting is a sport. Do whatever the hell you want to to train for whatever sport you want. If you want to climb rocks to train for snatches then that is your problem. [/quote]
No, crossfit is not a sport. If I go out to my garage and do the mainsite WOD, I’m not participating in a sport. I’m simply training. If I do westside, I’m not particpating in a sport (i.e. I’m not powerlifing), I’m simply training.
The crossfit games are a sport. It is a competition involving other people. It is the equivalent of participating in a powerlifting contest.
If I lift weights without competing in strongman, powerlifting or whatever, I’m not doing a sport. I’m just training. In between contests, I’m not doing a sport, I’m simply training for it.
If I do crossfit without particpiating in the games, I’m not competing in a sport, I’m just training. If I participate in the games, then while I’m participating I’m competing in a sport. In between the contests I’m simply training.[/quote]
Precisely. So if I do squats every monday, (as I do) and do olympic lifting 2 times a week, and do varying metcons that I make sure include going overhead. Then what am I doing? Training. That is what I do. The differnce between the way that I train and the way that you train (I’m guessing) is that I at any point could enter a CrossFit competition and do well.
My argument is that CrossFit is a sport. Which you can not refute. You can train for the sport of CrossFit however you want to. Just as you may train for Strongman however you want to.
I don’t give a shit what you guys think the philosophies of CrossFit are. I own a CrossFit gym and have never bought into a great deal of the shit the main site preaches. Just as I don’t agree with the shit standards that are allowed in powerlifting now. That has no bearing on the fact that CrossFit and powerlifting are both sports.
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No, Crossfit is not a sport. There are millions of people that do Crossfit that don’t compete at anything.
Crossfit is analogous to Westside. It is a training system.
From the official website:
[quote]CrossFit is the principal strength and conditioning program for many police academies and tactical operations teams, military special operations units, champion martial artists, and hundreds of other elite and professional athletes worldwide.
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http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/what-crossfit.html
A “strength and conditioning program” is not a sport.[/quote]
So when I compete on June 9th at a local CrossFit gym, what will I be competing in? It will be a competition. There will be 1 winner and a bunch of losers. What would you call that? It is definitely not the CrossFit games. It will not be on ESPN.
I know how much people love hypotheticals so here you go… Hey I have developed a new training philosophy. It is one where you go really fast on your feet. I’ll call it sprinting. I will do this activity to get in shape. I will not compete in it because I only developed it to get in shape, my goal when I developed this activity was strictly fitness. As time goes by I am sure no one will start to compete in my fitness program because it was not my goal initially. I will have full control over the progress and popularity of this activity.
So when I am playing football with my friends and we are keeping score, what are we doing? Bear in mind we suck at football and it is just for fun. What are we doing? Are we “training”?