Big Deal About CrossFit?

fattymcfatso · April 30, 2012, 1:30am

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:
Another thing that has been bothering me about the ignorance of CrossFit as a sport. It is a sport. I don’t know why some of you guys don’t get that. There are lot’s of movements under the umbrella of CrossFit as a sport, and those movements are tested in CrossFit competitions. It is stupid that some say that the top competitors don’t “do CrossFit” They work on on the powerlifting and weightlifting movements, basic gymnastics, calisthenics and running, all within the same program. That is diverse enough to cover all the bases for a CrossFit competition.

Here is the big question fellas. Do Strongmen only lift stones and logs? Or do they lift bars and use machines as well? Most only do the events once a week or so. Does that mean they don’t “train Strongman” Do powerlifters only squat bench and dead? Does that mean they don’t even train for the sport they compete in? See where I am going with this? It is easy to put down shit you can’t do. It even easier to put down shit you don’t have the guts to try doing.

CrossFit is done wrong all the time, but so is every other strength sport. If someone is doing a shitty deadlift and wearing a CrossFit shirt, that makes the whole sport stupid and dangerous? My mom is a shitty driver, does that mean Nascar is Stupid? (maybe a bad example) The generalizations are always from people who have never tried it.

The top CrossFit atheletes are incredible. Way past the physical capacity of most people on T-Nation. If you can snatch 300+ lbs and still run a 6 minute mile you are an AWESOME athelete.

So here is your rebuttal: Most CrossFit athletes were great athletes before CrossFit. Wow really. Really? No kidding. How about you suck on this: How many powerlifters, weightlifters, strongmen are former high school and coleigate atheletes? How about Pat Mendes? What did he do before Weightlifting? Football. Big surprise. How about the Cal Strength guys, how about the big boys on this forum? Anyone play someting else before your chosen sport right now? I started with powerlifting myself. How come I did not start with CrossFit? Because it did not get popular until 5 years ago!!!

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Here are my exact words big guy. Try reading them again and see if you can understand what I wrote. Then try and dis this guy. I’m sure you will find a way.

fattymcfatso · April 30, 2012, 1:32am

Wait I will give you another chance, did you click on the first link? And read the words that I typed. If so well…

killerDIRK · April 30, 2012, 1:42am

The top CrossFit atheletes are incredible. Way past the physical capacity of most people on T-Nation. If you can snatch 300+ lbs and still run a 6 minute mile you are an AWESOME athelete.

^ these are your words : ) I just want to see video of someone who can snatch 300+ then run a six minute mile,

from anyone trolling this forum. Thank you

fattymcfatso · April 30, 2012, 1:46am

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
The top CrossFit atheletes are incredible. Way past the physical capacity of most people on T-Nation. If you can snatch 300+ lbs and still run a 6 minute mile you are an AWESOME athelete.

^ these are your words : ) I just want to see video of someone who can snatch 300+ then run a six minute mile,

from anyone trolling this forum. Thank you [/quote]

Is English your first language?
Aja Barto can snatch 305. and his mile before the workout I posted was right at 6 minutes. I never said the events followed each other. Trolling. I love it.
Well?

killerDIRK · April 30, 2012, 2:05am

Fair enough, I concede on this singular point.

Still, why not master A singular sport instead of sucking at 3 or more sports simultaneously (i.e Triathlon) ?

Why not concede that all crossfit is, is repackaged circuit training from the early '80s by a guy now fat

enough that he probably tastes as good as pig on a spit ?

How about muscle confusion ? Why not sell that as well. Oh wait it is, so appearently you CAN confuse something

that does not even possess a brain : ) Oh how gullible society is…fully explains religion (sorry wrong

thread) though…

debraD · April 30, 2012, 2:08am

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
The top CrossFit atheletes are incredible. Way past the physical capacity of most people on T-Nation. If you can snatch 300+ lbs and still run a 6 minute mile you are an AWESOME athelete.

^ these are your words : ) I just want to see video of someone who can snatch 300+ then run a six minute mile,

from anyone trolling this forum. Thank you [/quote]

Is English your first language?
Aja Barto can snatch 305. and his mile before the workout I posted was right at 6 minutes. I never said the events followed each other. Trolling. I love it.
Well?[/quote]

He also snatched 295lbs today in a ‘snatch ladder’ workout.

That is, you have 50 seconds to snatch, do 20 double-unders and then move up in weight:

155, 165, 175, 185, 195, 205, 215, 225, 235, 245, 255, 265, 275, 285, 295

I don’t care what you sore asses say; that is pretty impressive.

debraD · April 30, 2012, 2:11am

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Fair enough, I concede on this singular point.

Still, why not master A singular sport instead of sucking at 3 or more sports simultaneously (i.e Triathlon) ?

Why not concede that all crossfit is, is repackaged circuit training from the early '80s by a guy now fat

enough that he probably tastes as good as pig on a spit ?

How about muscle confusion ? Why not sell that as well. Oh wait it is, so appearently you CAN confuse something

that does not even possess a brain : ) Oh how gullible society is…fully explains religion (sorry wrong

thread) though…[/quote]

Why do you care so much what someone else does for sport? It’s just a sport for crying out loud. It’s was people do for fun, for competition and for improved fitness. And if you don’t like it don’t watch it or do it. Worry about your own ‘sport.’

fattymcfatso · April 30, 2012, 2:22am

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Fair enough, I concede on this singular point.

Still, why not master A singular sport instead of sucking at 3 or more sports simultaneously (i.e Triathlon) ?

Why not concede that all crossfit is, is repackaged circuit training from the early '80s by a guy now fat

enough that he probably tastes as good as pig on a spit ?

How about muscle confusion ? Why not sell that as well. Oh wait it is, so appearently you CAN confuse something

that does not even possess a brain : ) Oh how gullible society is…fully explains religion (sorry wrong

thread) though…[/quote]

I think I made my point clear in my initial post. CrossFit is a sport. It is a sport. It is on ESPN. CrossFit is a sport. Getting good at the events in the arena of CrossFit is getting good at one singular sport. Getting good at lifting a log or a barrel is just as important as pulling a train to strongmen eventough they are very differnt events. Not all sports take only one skill (running for a really, really, really long time)

The only thing exciting about long distance running is when someone shit’s themselves.

Clearly, the founder of a methodology’s fitness level dictates the validity of it’s participants. That is why all basketball coaches can dunk right?

iStandOnMyHands · April 30, 2012, 2:24pm

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]iStandOnMyHands wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Crossfit… Forging elite athletes?[/quote]

More like forging dipshits. Who should be thrown back in the forge.[/quote]

lololololol.

as for why crossfit is bad, the idea of it isnt. its just circuit training. but their coaches arent qualified at all (most of them anyways), so nobody there has correct form. which makes it dangerous. there is the occasional good crossfit gym with good coaches im sure. but to be a crossfit instructor or whatever, you pay 1500 bucks and go to a one day course and take an open book test (im fairly sure). anyone can do it. which means you could go to www.bodybuilding.com , go to their teen bodybuilding section, give 5 random curl monkeys 1500 bucks and make them go take the class, and you’ve got 5 new crossfit coaches. do you want them in charge of your workouts? cause thats what happens basically. but, mark rippetoe is a crossfit instructor. i sure as heck wouldnt mind training at that crossfit gym. probably full of pro’s. 99% idiots, 1% pro. just like the rest of the world.[/quote]

You can say this because you have been to most of the CrossFit gyms out there obviously. I mean I can’t imagine someone generalizing so much unless they have at least experienced what they are putting down.

Here is where you are wrong: the cert cost’s 1000 not 1500, the test is not open book, infact alot of people fail, Mark Rippetoe is not affiliated with CrossFit at all anymore, I know Mark personally and have been to his gym plenty of times. His gym is full of normal people and a couple good athletes. It is kind of like the CrossFit gym that I own, Full of normal people and a couple good athletes, come to think of it that is what most gyms are like, probably yours too. Obviously you are one of the pro’s since you know so much about this stuff.[/quote]

ive been to quite a few crossfit gyms, enough to make an average. a buddy of mine owns a crossfit gym, and id train at his. its fantastic. the certs costing 1000 and not 1500, worsens your case. i wouldnt have pointed that out if i were you. that was just a guess on my part, i just knew it was 1k +. didnt remember the number though.

like i said, i wasnt sure about the open book thing. and, well if thats the case, then maybe they shouldnt advertise being elite… how about, normal, just like anyone else…? and, thats interesting. i didnt know that about rippetoe. maybe theres a reason he left.

Swolegasm · April 30, 2012, 7:42pm

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Fair enough, I concede on this singular point.

Still, why not master A singular sport instead of sucking at 3 or more sports simultaneously (i.e Triathlon) ?

Why not concede that all crossfit is, is repackaged circuit training from the early '80s by a guy now fat

enough that he probably tastes as good as pig on a spit ?

How about muscle confusion ? Why not sell that as well. Oh wait it is, so appearently you CAN confuse something

that does not even possess a brain : ) Oh how gullible society is…fully explains religion (sorry wrong

thread) though…[/quote]

Why do you care so much what someone else does for sport? It’s just a sport for crying out loud. It’s was people do for fun, for competition and for improved fitness. And if you don’t like it don’t watch it or do it. Worry about your own ‘sport.’

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Like I said the only thing that annoys me is their holier than thou attitude. We all know weightlifters are the greatest athletes Deb

debraD · April 30, 2012, 9:49pm

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:

[quote]debraD wrote:

[quote]killerDIRK wrote:
Fair enough, I concede on this singular point.

Still, why not master A singular sport instead of sucking at 3 or more sports simultaneously (i.e Triathlon) ?

Why not concede that all crossfit is, is repackaged circuit training from the early '80s by a guy now fat

enough that he probably tastes as good as pig on a spit ?

How about muscle confusion ? Why not sell that as well. Oh wait it is, so appearently you CAN confuse something

that does not even possess a brain : ) Oh how gullible society is…fully explains religion (sorry wrong

thread) though…[/quote]

Why do you care so much what someone else does for sport? It’s just a sport for crying out loud. It’s was people do for fun, for competition and for improved fitness. And if you don’t like it don’t watch it or do it. Worry about your own ‘sport.’

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Like I said the only thing that annoys me is their holier than thou attitude. We all know weightlifters are the greatest athletes Deb
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I hate that too but I think having so many haters only encourages them

That part of it is a brilliant marketing scheme IMO. The people I know in crossfit are constantly celebrating their awesomeness even if it is something as mediocre as being able to do 5 kipping pullups but their whole clubs are engulfed in this kind of celebration and it not only gives their members a high and a sense of accomplishment it actually makes them driven to improve. Which also leads to the douchbaggery we sometimes see And the cult-like feeling you get from them.

It’s a bit over the top for my liking but I can’t hate them for it when I see my friend, a nice timid woman in her early fifties crying in pain as she struggles with hand stand push ups and the whole religious experience she gets when she finally gets another one. You have to understand what it is like for someone like her to actually for the first time in her life accomplish something physical and feel strength. Young athletic guys don’t really get that because it’s too far from their experience but trust me it is a like religious experience for her. There are a lot of people like her and they are watching their names on the leaderboard alongside all the top athletes and it’s quite a rush for them.

Unlike weightlifting that only seems to give a fuck about the top 3 guys and can’t stop crying about a lack of medals for America

rocket_man_400 · May 1, 2012, 1:59am

Crossfit is not for everybody. If you are a bodybuilder , powerlifter, olympic lifter, athlete, endurance athlete (cyclist , swimmer, runner, triathlete ) it is NOT for you. there are better ways to train for specific things. However, Crossfit done right ( I have yet to see it done completely right as the way they do certain WODs can over use certain muscles.) can and should be extremely beneficial for the majority of people that want to get “fit”. It is much better than say Joe Blow and Jane Snatch just going to the local health club and doing some aerobic machine and using some machine wts. They actually develop some skill and ability and if they persevere will improve their conditioning.
It is circuit training absolutely! But… not like any circuit training most have ever encountered. Using, olympic lifts, strong man training, powerlifts, jump training, running, etc helps most typical gym goers who wish to really get fit…get fit! And that it does well! Look at the hot women!!

caveman101 · May 1, 2012, 5:56am

FattyMcFatso- Crossfit is on ESPN because it is MARKETABLE and many men in suits can MAKE MONEY FROM IT. not because Zeus has deemed it a sport. it has replaced events like strongman, and Olympic lifting on TV because:

you can sell it to regular people as the new best way to get fit - in the UK it is sold as ‘the sport of fitness’ - due to its freshness and group-class structure, and you can go along with your friends and have a good time. that shit sells well over here.
What is a good Fran time? 5-4mins? you can slap that all over posters ‘best best, most fat-burning workout you’ll ever do, in 5minutes!!!’.
Reebok can sell a shit ton of clothing and equipment marketed as ‘Crossfit …’, it is the new yoga pants craze
how can you sell Inzer briefs to a soccer mom? Weightlifting shoes to a guy who likes to go for runs in the evenings after work? is Matt Kroc or Ronnie Coleman marketable to 99% of the population?

fattymcfatso · May 2, 2012, 3:24am

[quote]iStandOnMyHands wrote:

[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]iStandOnMyHands wrote:

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

[quote]theuofh wrote:
Crossfit… Forging elite athletes?[/quote]

More like forging dipshits. Who should be thrown back in the forge.[/quote]

lololololol.

as for why crossfit is bad, the idea of it isnt. its just circuit training. but their coaches arent qualified at all (most of them anyways), so nobody there has correct form. which makes it dangerous. there is the occasional good crossfit gym with good coaches im sure. but to be a crossfit instructor or whatever, you pay 1500 bucks and go to a one day course and take an open book test (im fairly sure). anyone can do it. which means you could go to www.bodybuilding.com , go to their teen bodybuilding section, give 5 random curl monkeys 1500 bucks and make them go take the class, and you’ve got 5 new crossfit coaches. do you want them in charge of your workouts? cause thats what happens basically. but, mark rippetoe is a crossfit instructor. i sure as heck wouldnt mind training at that crossfit gym. probably full of pro’s. 99% idiots, 1% pro. just like the rest of the world.[/quote]

You can say this because you have been to most of the CrossFit gyms out there obviously. I mean I can’t imagine someone generalizing so much unless they have at least experienced what they are putting down.

Here is where you are wrong: the cert cost’s 1000 not 1500, the test is not open book, infact alot of people fail, Mark Rippetoe is not affiliated with CrossFit at all anymore, I know Mark personally and have been to his gym plenty of times. His gym is full of normal people and a couple good athletes. It is kind of like the CrossFit gym that I own, Full of normal people and a couple good athletes, come to think of it that is what most gyms are like, probably yours too. Obviously you are one of the pro’s since you know so much about this stuff.[/quote]

ive been to quite a few crossfit gyms, enough to make an average. a buddy of mine owns a crossfit gym, and id train at his. its fantastic. the certs costing 1000 and not 1500, worsens your case. i wouldnt have pointed that out if i were you. that was just a guess on my part, i just knew it was 1k +. didnt remember the number though.

like i said, i wasnt sure about the open book thing. and, well if thats the case, then maybe they shouldnt advertise being elite… how about, normal, just like anyone else…? and, thats interesting. i didnt know that about rippetoe. maybe theres a reason he left.[/quote]

Question for you. It says you are a personal trainer. Waht cert do you have? How difficult was your certification? I have ISSA, USAW level 1, and CrossFit Level 1, of the 3, the CrossFit cert was the most diverse and informative. I was actually really disapointed with the USAW.

The reality of all of this stuff guys is: almost all personal trainers get certs that only require a weekend seminar, just like CrossFit. If you are CSCS that is different, but if you are a personal trainer odds are you just studied at home for a month or two, took some practice tests and went to a seminar and got “certified” to charge 50 bucks an hour for your services. Most personal trainers suck. I have been a trainer for a long time and have seen my fair share of certified pin setters and treadmil button pushers. What is different about being a CrossFit trainer is they at least try and use movements that obviously work. But guess what, lots of CrossFit trainers suck too. Probably the same % of personal trainers that suck. Do you see what I am getting at? Only a select few people are ever going to be great at their jobs. I have seen some shitty ass Powerlifting coaching, but that does not mean powerlifting is stupid, ineffective, and dangerous.

Most of the guys on these message boards and all other strength related message boards are mediocre athletes at best. (myself included of course) We are always trying to improve ourselves, but when we see something that is not as good as what we can do it is easy to put it down. Hence the CrossFit hate. Most of you guys are not experts at your chosen sport. Most CrossFitters are way far from being experts at anything fitness or strength related. Most of them know that. But just like the douchebags in their affliction shirts and sunglasses on the pec deck at the Planet fatness that give regular gym rats a bad name. Douchebag “Elite Forgers” that think their workout is better because it is faster and sweatier give the sport of CrossFit a bad name.

We are all after the same basic stuff. I want to be strong and fast. Most of you probably do too. We use differnt methods to get there, but we all have alot more in common when it comes to this stuff than we choose to admit. It will take a while before CrossFit is respected as a legitimate sport, but it is hard to deny the work capacity and diverse strength of the top CrossFit competitors.

iStandOnMyHands · May 3, 2012, 3:35pm