[quote]optheta wrote:
When doing Steady State Cardio how hard do you guys make it? [/quote]
just 115-125 bpm, nothing “hard”. Just get’s you sweating.
Jump rope 10-15 min everyday after you lift. This does wonders for me.
Depending on your conditioning and how often you hit legs, do hill sprints for 15-20 min 1-2 times a week. This also strips fat off me as well as helps my sport performance. Not sure if you care about sport performance or not, but it does help with fat loss.
Already been said a million times…dial in your diet.
Good luck.
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
When doing Steady State Cardio how hard do you guys make it? [/quote]
just 115-125 bpm, nothing “hard”. Just get’s you sweating.[/quote]
So you go for a target heart rate and time, basically?
I’m a big guy and I run anywhere from 2 to 6 miles 4 or 5 times a week. I try to separate it from my lifting but if I don’t have another choice I do it after my weight training.
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
I agree with Stu in that high intensity type cardio would be good for many people until you get to a certain point of bigness… I think it’d be too hard on the joints at 260+.[/quote]
High intensity involves more than just the standard HIIT running. Complexes fall into that realm. And each person is different. Low intensity cardio (treadmill, jogging) gave me shin splints, not sprinting; so for me, high intensity is actually better.
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]RommelKorps wrote:
I would second most of what Prof X said. You want to drop as much body fat as you can with a proper cutting diet then gradually add the cardio. As far as different types of cardio goes. I personally like early morning cardio best, (pre-breakfast on an empty stomach) either in the form of brisk walking or the stairmaster. Personally I find the stationary bike less effective as it removes much of the midsection from the equation but i also find it superior in leaning out the inner portion of the thighs which is the area that holds the most fat.[/quote]
Thanks for your inoffensive screen name. [/quote]
seriously, what a prick.[/quote]
Looks like we have some sensitive boys here today, stick to the thread topic, thanks
I started out doing running on a treadmill and eventually moved to outdoor tracks. The problem was it was really destroying my shins and knees. I found that I benefited from sprints (plus, for some reason they were fun) and steady state stairclimber. The stairs really kick my ass.
I have also seen great benefit from the prowler or sled. I just finished making my tire sled, so I will be testing it out after Jiu Jitsu work on Tuesday/Thursdays. I actually started Jiu Jitsu as cardio b/c I literally HATE steady state. It hasn’t been AS effective as I was hoping for my cardio, so I figure adding in some sled work should take care of the rest.
[quote]Cprimero wrote:
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]RommelKorps wrote:
I would second most of what Prof X said. You want to drop as much body fat as you can with a proper cutting diet then gradually add the cardio. As far as different types of cardio goes. I personally like early morning cardio best, (pre-breakfast on an empty stomach) either in the form of brisk walking or the stairmaster. Personally I find the stationary bike less effective as it removes much of the midsection from the equation but i also find it superior in leaning out the inner portion of the thighs which is the area that holds the most fat.[/quote]
Thanks for your inoffensive screen name. [/quote]
seriously, what a prick.[/quote]
Nothing wrong with Rommel he was a great general and part of the conspiracy against Hilter.
/Hijack[/quote]
X2 Obviously, I wouldn’t support Nazism unless I had some form of mental deficiency, but if you look in your history books, Cprimero is right.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I started out doing running on a treadmill and eventually moved to outdoor tracks. The problem was it was really destroying my shins and knees. I found that I benefited from sprints (plus, for some reason they were fun) and steady state stairclimber. The stairs really kick my ass.
I have also seen great benefit from the prowler or sled. I just finished making my tire sled, so I will be testing it out after Jiu Jitsu work on Tuesday/Thursdays. I actually started Jiu Jitsu as cardio b/c I literally HATE steady state. It hasn’t been AS effective as I was hoping for my cardio, so I figure adding in some sled work should take care of the rest.[/quote]
Sounds like me with the shin splints and knee issues. And I second you on the sled. I need to get back to using mine. And I just HAVE to see what a Prowler feels like. 
I’m hoping to find someone who has one near me I can get access to.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I started out doing running on a treadmill and eventually moved to outdoor tracks. The problem was it was really destroying my shins and knees. I found that I benefited from sprints (plus, for some reason they were fun) and steady state stairclimber. The stairs really kick my ass.
I have also seen great benefit from the prowler or sled. I just finished making my tire sled, so I will be testing it out after Jiu Jitsu work on Tuesday/Thursdays. I actually started Jiu Jitsu as cardio b/c I literally HATE steady state. It hasn’t been AS effective as I was hoping for my cardio, so I figure adding in some sled work should take care of the rest.[/quote]
Sounds like me with the shin splints and knee issues. And I second you on the sled. I need to get back to using mine. And I just HAVE to see what a Prowler feels like. I’m hoping to find someone who has one near me I can get access to.[/quote]
I went to a running store and got some specific running shoes, and then spent another $300 on prescription orthodics. The severe shin splint pain went away, but I still had the dull, numb feeling. Unfortunately, I think I have to get back into running soon.
The Prowler is my most favoritest! ha. I have a severe love hate for that thing. I want to find a way to add some low handles on my sled so I can push it. I used to do BBall court length sprints with the Prowler, alternating between the low handles and the horns. You will learn that Prowler Flu is real- but so worth it!
EDIT: Where in Maryland are you?
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I started out doing running on a treadmill and eventually moved to outdoor tracks. The problem was it was really destroying my shins and knees. I found that I benefited from sprints (plus, for some reason they were fun) and steady state stairclimber. The stairs really kick my ass.
I have also seen great benefit from the prowler or sled. I just finished making my tire sled, so I will be testing it out after Jiu Jitsu work on Tuesday/Thursdays. I actually started Jiu Jitsu as cardio b/c I literally HATE steady state. It hasn’t been AS effective as I was hoping for my cardio, so I figure adding in some sled work should take care of the rest.[/quote]
Sounds like me with the shin splints and knee issues. And I second you on the sled. I need to get back to using mine. And I just HAVE to see what a Prowler feels like. I’m hoping to find someone who has one near me I can get access to.[/quote]
I went to a running store and got some specific running shoes, and then spent another $300 on prescription orthodics. The severe shin splint pain went away, but I still had the dull, numb feeling. Unfortunately, I think I have to get back into running soon.
The Prowler is my most favoritest! ha. I have a severe love hate for that thing. I want to find a way to add some low handles on my sled so I can push it. I used to do BBall court length sprints with the Prowler, alternating between the low handles and the horns. You will learn that Prowler Flu is real- but so worth it!
EDIT: Where in Maryland are you?[/quote]
Harford County. North of Baltimore, but I went to school in DC. What part are you in?
I’ve been wanting to feel the flu. It’s just like football and lacrosse. You didn’t really feel like the season had started until you had pushed yourself hard enough to throw up.
[quote]optheta wrote:
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
[quote]optheta wrote:
When doing Steady State Cardio how hard do you guys make it? [/quote]
just 115-125 bpm, nothing “hard”. Just get’s you sweating.[/quote]
So you go for a target heart rate and time, basically?
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yah
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I started out doing running on a treadmill and eventually moved to outdoor tracks. The problem was it was really destroying my shins and knees. I found that I benefited from sprints (plus, for some reason they were fun) and steady state stairclimber. The stairs really kick my ass.
I have also seen great benefit from the prowler or sled. I just finished making my tire sled, so I will be testing it out after Jiu Jitsu work on Tuesday/Thursdays. I actually started Jiu Jitsu as cardio b/c I literally HATE steady state. It hasn’t been AS effective as I was hoping for my cardio, so I figure adding in some sled work should take care of the rest.[/quote]
Sounds like me with the shin splints and knee issues. And I second you on the sled. I need to get back to using mine. And I just HAVE to see what a Prowler feels like. I’m hoping to find someone who has one near me I can get access to.[/quote]
I went to a running store and got some specific running shoes, and then spent another $300 on prescription orthodics. The severe shin splint pain went away, but I still had the dull, numb feeling. Unfortunately, I think I have to get back into running soon.
The Prowler is my most favoritest! ha. I have a severe love hate for that thing. I want to find a way to add some low handles on my sled so I can push it. I used to do BBall court length sprints with the Prowler, alternating between the low handles and the horns. You will learn that Prowler Flu is real- but so worth it!
EDIT: Where in Maryland are you?[/quote]
Harford County. North of Baltimore, but I went to school in DC. What part are you in?
I’ve been wanting to feel the flu. It’s just like football and lacrosse. You didn’t really feel like the season had started until you had pushed yourself hard enough to throw up. :-)[/quote]
I’m actually in northern VA, Fairfax county area. I was going to say- I know a place or 2 around here you could probably try out the prowler, but I doubt it is worth the trip.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]Cprimero wrote:
[quote]Sarev0k wrote:
[quote]Bricknyce wrote:
[quote]RommelKorps wrote:
I would second most of what Prof X said. You want to drop as much body fat as you can with a proper cutting diet then gradually add the cardio. As far as different types of cardio goes. I personally like early morning cardio best, (pre-breakfast on an empty stomach) either in the form of brisk walking or the stairmaster.
Personally I find the stationary bike less effective as it removes much of the midsection from the equation but i also find it superior in leaning out the inner portion of the thighs which is the area that holds the most fat.[/quote]
Thanks for your inoffensive screen name. [/quote]
seriously, what a prick.[/quote]
Nothing wrong with Rommel he was a great general and part of the conspiracy against Hilter.
/Hijack[/quote]
X2 Obviously, I wouldn’t support Nazism unless I had some form of mental deficiency, but if you look in your history books, Cprimero is right.[/quote]
Yeah, lets throw all the military victories in the name of Nazism right out the window… Because rommel was “humane” and “chivalrous” right?
Conspiracy against hitler? Great.
Still a a nazi.
Please, no more Nazi discussion. If you would like to argue take it to the off topic forum. Back to the topic at hand , effective cardio for big fawkers.
In the past eight months I’ve gone from 330 to 270 with no steady state cardio. I’ve seen significant fat loss by up-ing the density of my workouts, adding bb complexes or sled pulling one day a week, and dialing in the diet. I’ve never been a fan of steady state cardio, to boring and hard on the knees. Without it I’ve maintained strength on all lifts even increasing in some instances.
Something I’m always unsure about is how to eat after cardio. I feel like I “waste” the run if I eat immediately after, but I’m also nervous not to eat as I don’t want to stall muscle progress.
Is there any reason not to eat certain things after cardio, or to wait a certain amount of time afterwards?
[quote]thogue wrote:
Something I’m always unsure about is how to eat after cardio. I feel like I “waste” the run if I eat immediately after, but I’m also nervous not to eat as I don’t want to stall muscle progress.
Is there any reason not to eat certain things after cardio, or to wait a certain amount of time afterwards?[/quote]
I eat as quickly as possible after cardio. Always a blended shake consisting of oats, cottage cheese, raw eggs, whey protein and 1 tbsp PB. Not eating after is saying bye bye to muscle.
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I went to a running store and got some specific running shoes, and then spent another $300 on prescription orthodics. The severe shin splint pain went away, but I still had the dull, numb feeling.[/quote]
I would be careful with this. Especially if you’re getting a numbing feeling in your lower legs/feet. I was diagnosed with compartment syndrome in my lower legs (shins) after being misdiagnosed with shin splints initially. If you’re getting numbness in your feet its more likely that you have some “activity induced compartment syndrome” which is a much more serious issue. Be careful and maybe talk to a doctor if it persists.
.greg.
[quote]gregron wrote:
[quote]coolnatedawg wrote:
I went to a running store and got some specific running shoes, and then spent another $300 on prescription orthodics. The severe shin splint pain went away, but I still had the dull, numb feeling.[/quote]
I would be careful with this. Especially if you’re getting a numbing feeling in your lower legs/feet. I was diagnosed with compartment syndrome in my lower legs (shins) after being misdiagnosed with shin splints initially. If you’re getting numbness in your feet its more likely that you have some “activity induced compartment syndrome” which is a much more serious issue. Be careful and maybe talk to a doctor if it persists.
.greg.
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Yea. It’s something I have looked into. I will probably have to address the issue again soon, but for now, the best cure is to not do any running. haha.